Wet room

trigo

Hi guys, putting in a wet room, upstairs the missus is worried about leaking?any recommendations on what materials I need. She's buying non slip mosaic??

CJhaughey

trigo wrote: »

Hi guys, putting in a wet room, upstairs the missus is worried about leaking?any recommendations on what materials I need. She's buying non slip mosaic??

The more layers the better, I painted on a rubber sealant, which included a roll of fibrous matting for the joints between wall and floor and in the chipboard floor.
I laid 1/2" WBP with Stainless screws and and waterproofed this with the same rubber sealant This was to used to make the fall into the shower trap which was floor mounted
then I laid Schluter 'Kerdi' membrane on the floor and walls with tile cement and brought this down into the floor trap and then tiled the room.
Schluter has most everything you need in their catalogue including how to videos.

trigo

Thanks rob, went to their store in navan this morning only 75e, had the mosaics as well ,very helpful staff indeed.. Thanks again

olestoepoke

hi guys, where did you get the schluter membrane and ditra mat? been looking online for an irish seller can't find, thanks

gman2k

Look up glass fibre tanking.

olestoepoke

gman2k wrote: »

Look up glass fibre tanking.

Hi and thanks for your imput, I'm looking for a schluter distributer in ireland i want that specific product, thanks anyway

Dtp1979

gman2k wrote: »

Look up glass fibre tanking.

+1 on that. There's nothing better than that on the market.

olestoepoke

Dtp1979 wrote: »

+1 on that. There's nothing better than that on the market.

Hi is glass fibre tanking something i can do myself?

gman2k

olestoepoke wrote: »

Hi is glass fibre tanking something i can do myself?

yes, with the usual caveats....

Dtp1979

gman2k wrote: »

yes, with the usual caveats....

Dunno what that means! I had it done in my upstairs bathroom. Fantastic job. 200 for a 1200x1000 and 2 metres high

olestoepoke

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Dunno what that means! I had it done in my upstairs bathroom. Fantastic job. 200 for a 1200x1000 and 2 metres high

that sounds reasonable, can you give me the name of the guy that did it? i was gonna tackle the schluter membrane myself

olestoepoke

gman2k wrote: »

yes, with the usual caveats....

please do tell

gman2k

olestoepoke wrote: »

please do tell

The usual caveats - re a DIY situation.....
Whilst it's not a terribly skilled job (no offence to anyone doing it for a living) you do have to be careful about prepping the area, getting the quantities right, mixing the resin properly, working corners and edges properly etc etc.
Plenty of info online, and the fibre mats, resin, and rollers are all available to buy online also.
Also, special adhesive is needed for tiling over a glass fibre tank, your tile supplier will put you right.

Dtp1979

gman2k wrote: »

The usual caveats - re a DIY situation.....
Whilst it's not a terribly skilled job (no offence to anyone doing it for a living) you do have to be careful about prepping the area, getting the quantities right, mixing the resin properly, working corners and edges properly etc etc.
Plenty of info online, and the fibre mats, resin, and rollers are all available to buy online also.
Also, special adhesive is needed for tiling over a glass fibre tank, your tile supplier will put you right.

What kind of special adhesive??

Dtp1979

olestoepoke wrote: »

that sounds reasonable, can you give me the name of the guy that did it? i was gonna tackle the schluter membrane myself

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Nedser101

To start install a mono flex tray!

master of all

For the last 3 years, my tiler's been using a paste that has 600% elasticity!
Anyway, before we agreed on that, looked up the manufacturer's info /was a bit nervous about it being 'so good'/
According to specs: Its being used for roof terraces, flat or sloping roofs /concrete, asphalt, plaster, zinc, PVC, aluminium/, cracks bridging, waterproofing north side of buildings, and for tanking bathrooms areas. 2 coats needed though to create min 0.75 mm thickness.
Never heard of it before, but it works really well. Quite easy to apply too and not very expensive.

olestoepoke

gman2k wrote: »

The usual caveats - re a DIY situation.....
Whilst it's not a terribly skilled job (no offence to anyone doing it for a living) you do have to be careful about prepping the area, getting the quantities right, mixing the resin properly, working corners and edges properly etc etc.
Plenty of info online, and the fibre mats, resin, and rollers are all available to buy online also.
Also, special adhesive is needed for tiling over a glass fibre tank, your tile supplier will put you right.

cheers for the info

Outkast_IRE

I like the Wedi Fundo system, have been in jobs where its been used before and as long as you do the steps they ask you to its pretty bullet proof stuff as all the levels etc are done for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NNrFbq6hNM

olestoepoke

Outkast_IRE wrote: »

I like the Wedi Fundo system, have been in jobs where its been used before and as long as you do the steps they ask you to its pretty bullet proof stuff as all the levels etc are done for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NNrFbq6hNM

what about the schluter membrane?

Outkast_IRE

olestoepoke wrote: »

what about the schluter membrane?

Have not seen it used here so couldn't give an opinion.

CJhaughey

I'll find out where the Schluter stuff comes from.
The membrane is very strong stuff, The more layers the better with tanking.
Personally I wouldn't like just a single layer of anything.
Mine was tanked twice once with the rubber dispersion layer and secondly with the schluter membrane.
I figured that it was better with the wetroom on the second floor and the floor being chipboard.

olestoepoke

CJhaughey wrote: »

I'll find out where the Schluter stuff comes from.
The membrane is very strong stuff, The more layers the better with tanking.
Personally I wouldn't like just a single layer of anything.
Mine was tanked twice once with the rubber dispersion layer and secondly with the schluter membrane.
I figured that it was better with the wetroom on the second floor and the floor being chipboard.

schluter is a german company, I've watched videos of the installation it looks good, I'm in the process of doing a wet room upstairs in my home. Im leaning towards marine ply with a marmox showerlay tray permabase durock walls and tai everything with the schluter membrane also doing the floor outside the shower area with marine ply and the shcluter ditra. never done it before I'm a carpenter by trade so I'm trying to do as much research before i attempt it

olestoepoke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy1pMQ3zQLw

CJhaughey

olestoepoke wrote: »

schluter is a german company, I've watched videos of the installation it looks good, I'm in the process of doing a wet room upstairs in my home. Im leaning towards marine ply with a marmox showerlay tray permabase durock walls and tai everything with the schluter membrane also doing the floor outside the shower area with marine ply and the shcluter ditra. never done it before I'm a carpenter by trade so I'm trying to do as much research before i attempt it

I am not any kind of tradesman but if you take care and do it properly it will be fine.
I highly recommend the schluter stuff from having used it, the quality is very good.
I used the membrane and the corner profiles to give a rounded corner in the shower and the floor to wall joint.
I have been out of the country for the last few weeks so wasn't able to find out who distributes it here.
My local tile shop is in county cork so may not suit you.

olestoepoke

CJhaughey wrote: »

I am not any kind of tradesman but if you take care and do it properly it will be fine.
I highly recommend the schluter stuff from having used it, the quality is very good.
I used the membrane and the corner profiles to give a rounded corner in the shower and the floor to wall joint.
I have been out of the country for the last few weeks so wasn't able to find out who distributes it here.
My local tile shop is in county cork so may not suit you.

i called the uk distributer and they put me on to a distributer in county down ni

CJhaughey

olestoepoke wrote: »

i called the uk distributer and they put me on to a distributer in county down ni

I think thats the one.

alfaphil

Can anyone advise the minimum height for a downstairs wetroom

agusta

alfaphil wrote: »

Can anyone advise the minimum height for a downstairs wetroom

What size is the wet room shower area

alfaphil

Small. About 9 sq ft

agusta

if your putting the gully in the middle of the shower area,id be fitting the gully so that the top plate on the gully is 1/2 inch below floor level,when the floor is finished tiled the fall will then be 1/2 inch plus the thickness if the tile

alfaphil

Sorry agusta the wet room is about 7 sq. m. What I am asking is does anyone know what height the ceiling should be on this. Is there a minimum height or just a suggested height.

Calahonda52

alfaphil wrote: »

Sorry agusta the wet room is about 7 sq. m. What I am asking is does anyone know what height the ceiling should be on this. Is there a minimum height or just a suggested height.

Bathroom is not regarded as a habitable room under the regs so 2.4m is recommended but not cast in stone.
If is downstairs, do you have to make it wheelchair accessible?