A Little Problem

0ph0rce0

I have an old banger, 2000 Punto ELX.

Just had it serviced and they said it was in great nick.

Anyway, every time I turn the wheel to full lock either left or right, The power steering goes and the warning light comes on and its really heavy to drive. I leave the car for a while and start it up and sometimes it starts fine with no warning and power steering fine but other times theres the light and its gone again????

There's also a warning light on for the bulbs even though they are all fine but this goes off when the wheel locks too.

I've no idea but kind of looks like electrical but I could be wrong. Anyone ever come across this or have any idea.

sanbrafyffe

doesnt sound like a big problem,,,did he check your power steering fluid levels during the service,,,lots dont,,,

as for the lights not sure,,,maybe something simple like a fuse

ofcork

Those puntos have electric power steering do they not?

0ph0rce0

ofcork wrote: »

Those puntos have electric power steering do they not?

I looked in the Manual to check the light and it says Electric Power Steering Fault

Power steering problems are probably one of the most typical faults with a Punto of that era. You're looking for a new power steering motor unit or you can attempt to fix it yourself. However you may need to fix it again tomorrow if you do that (sorry DGT :-) ) According to the article linked from below it is most likely either some broken solder joints or other contact problems.

http://www.fiatforum.com/punto-ii/142518-howto-fix-eps-power-steering.html

anthony4335

Could be the alternator is on the way out.

Nissan doctor

Most likely the common steering angle sensor fault which requires a new electric power steering unit/steering column to repair. From memory the part is something like €400odd from Fiat.:eek:

dgt

A duff battery causes the power steering unit to fail during driving.

As ND has pointed out more than likely the angle sensor which can be fixed by opening up the unit and soldering it back. I can't find the guide though....

What a stupid idea from Fiat though, the old hydraulic PAS never gave any bother and was light enough anyway, those units are nothing but trouble!

0ph0rce0

Right just done a diagnostics on it had a mechanic look at it and he said I need an electric steering motor. said its gonna cost 600-700 euro new.


Said I could get a used one and would be half the price.

I have no idea what the part number is or have no idea what exact one i'd need, theres loads on the net to buy.

Any advice

Would this be one??

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fiat-Punto-Mk2-2000-2003-ELX-Electric-Power-Steering-Column-/400330532354?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5d358f2602

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0ph0rce0 wrote: »

Right just done a diagnostics on it had a mechanic look at it and he said I need an electric steering motor. said its gonna cost 600-700 euro new.


Said I could get a used one and would be half the price.

I have no idea what the part number is or have no idea what exact one i'd need, theres loads on the net to buy.

Any advice

Ignore that price, they are such a common fault but that has it's benefits - cheapness! Here's a tonne of them on eBay starting at €80 with shipping. A local breakers should charge you no more than €100 to €150 - if he does, tell him to feck off And even better, the younger sister has a few for sale too, look on Adverts below.

http://www.adverts.ie/for-sale/cars-motorbikes-boats/car-parts-accessories/45/q_punto+steering/

http://www.ebay.ie/sch/i.html?_sop=2&_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=punto+electric+steering&rt=nc&LH_BIN=1

dgt

You need this


Your old one can be fixed as pointed out earlier

Pay no more than €80 at a breakers, plenty of those cars broken

0ph0rce0

He said I need the whole column, I don't want to buy something drop it down and look a tit haha

dgt

0ph0rce0 wrote: »

He said I need the whole column, I don't want to buy something drop it down and look a tit haha

He's trying to milk money out of you by the sounds of it

0ph0rce0

dgt wrote: »

He's trying to milk money out of you by the sounds of it

Cheers

0ph0rce0

Just back from a shop where I got a used column for €70 and he gave me a three month warranty on it.

Rang the mechanic, said he'd do it for €150

Sound Reasonable?????

Nissan doctor

Your mechanic is not wrong in telling you that the whole column needs to be replaced as the the new part comes all as one piece and its how Fiat repair them.

However, as dgt said, they can be stripped and repaired, although very few garages will do it.

As for €150 for fitting the column...well its an hour job tops so unless he has a very expensive hourly rate then its a bit high IMO but then this will often be the case when customers supply their own parts.

0ph0rce0

Mechanic let me down

Anyone out there want to do a nixer???

Have the part ready to go.

No harm in trying

Nissan doctor

0ph0rce0 wrote: »

Mechanic let me down

Anyone out there want to do a nixer???

Have the part ready to go.

No harm in trying

If your anywhere near Drumcondra Tomorrow(monday) I'll be in work for a few hours...

0ph0rce0

Just gonna stick this in myself, Anyone know where i'd get an E10 Socket on christams eve???

cletus

Halfords?

0ph0rce0

Got me one, new steering motor was all that was needed, works a treat.

Funny though, took out the motor, and on the little white sticker it has SERVICE PART OK, then in red pen beside it it says BAD.

Somebody new it was fooked!

Dord

0ph0rce0 wrote: »

Got me one, new steering motor was all that was needed, works a treat.

Funny though, took out the motor, and on the little white sticker it has SERVICE PART OK, then in red pen beside it it says BAD.

Somebody new it was fooked!

Maybe they went home and decided they'd just fix it again tomorrow.














Sorry, couldn't resist!

0ph0rce0

Dord wrote: »

Maybe they went home and decided they'd just fix it again tomorrow.











Sorry, couldn't resist!

:pac: