CALLING ALL 3RD LEVEL BJJ/JUDO/GRAPPLING/MMA CLUBS

OMCCABE

Looking to find out what active 3rd level clubs are around Ireland at the moment? The DCU MMA Club are looking at running a submission grappling/NoGi intervarsity again for 2013 but if the interest is there we will also run a Gi event and amatuer MMA intervarsity also.

Sound off if your a current member of a 3rd level club please.



Thanks

Oisin

Doug Cartel

DU Judo (TCD) might send some people. WE haven't been running any non-judo classes this year, but I could probably find one or two in the club who'd be willing to give it a go.

Jonah42

Sounds good, I know a couple of lads who'd be interested.

NUI Maynooth btw.

Jonah42

Is it necessary to have a student club within the college to compete? I know a lot of lads in 3rd level that train but don't have any sort of grappling club at their university/college.

laoch na mona

Jonah42 wrote: »

Is it necessary to have a student club within the college to compete? I know a lot of lads in 3rd level that train but don't have any sort of grappling club at their university/college.

me too

bjj-fighter

Looking forward to this!

OMCCABE

No need to have an existing club to compete in an intervarsity but I'm interested to see the state of 3rd level martial arts in Ireland right now also. In DCU we've been running for 5 years now and as of this year have started sending competitors to open tournaments (most recently grapplepalooza). At one point there was UCD MMA, ITT MMA, Queens BJJ, UL MMA. Not sure what of these clubs still exist if any.


If we new the clubs around I could talk directly with coaches with an eye towards team v team events.

Oisin

tkd93

Hi Oisin

My name is Shane O`Connor and I am the chairperson for IT Tallaght BJJ club. We are holding the intervarsity for brazilian jitsu jiu this year. http://www.cusai.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Intercollegiate-Brazilian-Jiu-Jitsu-Tournament.pdf maybe be of interest to you or others reading this post.

OMCCABE

tkd93 wrote: »

Hi Oisin

My name is Shane O`Connor and I am the chairperson for IT Tallaght BJJ club. We are holding the intervarsity for brazilian jitsu jiu this year. http://www.cusai.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Intercollegiate-Brazilian-Jiu-Jitsu-Tournament.pdf maybe be of interest to you or others reading this post.

Lovely stuff Shane. Thats one down which is great (didnt look forward to organizing 3) We'll organise a submission grappling inter varsity so and would any of your guys be interested in the amateur MMA? Is there an MMA club still in taillight or has it turned fully to BJJ?\\Thanks



Oisin

tkd93

The mma club is now a bjj club only. Im not sure about a mma comp but id say there would be serious interest in a grappling competition. Have you any dates times finalised?

Shane

Jonah42

OMCCABE wrote: »

Lovely stuff Shane. Thats one down which is great (didnt look forward to organizing 3) We'll organise a submission grappling inter varsity so and would any of your guys be interested in the amateur MMA? Is there an MMA club still in taillight or has it turned fully to BJJ?\\Thanks



Oisin

I think that comp is actually no-gi. Think the one last year was anyway, maybe Shane can confirm.

tkd93

It isnt specified but last year none of the competitors wore one.

OMCCABE

tkd93 wrote: »

It isnt specified but last year none of the competitors wore one.

Well it would make sense to have both a gi tournament an NoGi tournament IMO. We've run a grappling intervarsity for the last 4 years (didn't hear of a competition in tallaght last year) and it has always been NoGi. We always run the competition either late march or early april over two mats.

To be clear, you guys are going to run a BJJ intervarsity this year then and we will run a submisssion grappling/NoGi?

Oisin

OMCCABE

We have competitors in DCU that would compete in a Gi format so I think its best to make the BJJ intervarsity Gi to reflect the sport and we can cover NoGi/Sub Grappling. Does that make sense?

tkd93

Ok our competition is No gi. While I respect peoples opinions and wishes this will be our chosen format. To confirm IT Tallaght will be hosting the BJJ intervarsity for this academic year. This was registered with Cusai over a month ago. We would very much be interested in sending a team to compete in your competition Oisin.

Shane.

OMCCABE

Cool. Are you running it the same way as we have in the past i.e submission only or points? If not are you using IBJJF rules and point scoring systems. Will there be a team event?

That seems to cover the nogi sub grappling side but I think it would be worth having an amateur MMA comp and Gi comp also. It will only serve to strengthen both sports imo. Only problem now is what to call the Gi comp lol.


We will defo send a big group out to you to support it.


Oisin

tkd93

A fight consists of one five minute round. No points winner is by submission. If there is no submission within five minutes 1st take down decides winner. The decision on a team event will be decided shortly. I agree with you about using both Gi and no Gi but i have a large enough workload with this comp alone.

OMCCABE

tkd93 wrote: »

A fight consists of one five minute round. No points winner is by submission. If there is no submission within five minutes 1st take down decides winner. The decision on a team event will be decided shortly. I agree with you about using both Gi and no Gi but i have a large enough workload with this comp alone.

Sounds good

Leave it with me and I'll organise a Gi intervarsity through DCU to complement the tallagth event. Will also get moving on MMA too.

bjj-fighter

tkd93 wrote: »

A fight consists of one five minute round. No points winner is by submission. If there is no submission within five minutes 1st take down decides winner. The decision on a team event will be decided shortly. I agree with you about using both Gi and no Gi but i have a large enough workload with this comp alone.

First to takedown or sweep would be better than just first to takedown, most comps do it like that nowadays! And you'd need to specify that its nogi in the name, its not just a BJJ comp.

God_Of_War

Institute of Technology Carlow have recently set up a MMA Club this year under affiliation of Myles Price and the "Boxing Academy Kilkenny". I was actually the person to finally set it up in the IT and so far 80+ people have signed up, so id say Carlow will be sending a few lads down

Also can you tell me if the matches will be run as in, everybody faces everyone in their division or will it be, fight your first match if you win you go through, if you lose then your out?

tkd93

Sweeps dont count in the 1st take down decides the winner element. The competition will be knockout i.e you lose your fight you are out.

God_Of_War

Fair enough.. The Comps would be far more entertaining and exciting if it was that you face everyone in your division in my personal opinion.

bjj-fighter

tkd93 wrote: »

Sweeps dont count in the 1st take down decides the winner element.

I understood that's what you said, but I'm just saying that they should, and if you attended any comp in recent times that employed a similar format, you would have seen a winner being decided by the first to complete a point-scoring maneuver. If Dan is your coach then ask him about it, he has ran competitions before with this I think!

tkd93

If you are refering to Daniel Iannelli then it was on his advice that I made the decision. The decisions what taken on the bases that take downs are in our humble opinion easier to referee. Keep your opinions and feed back coming are they are useful.

While we would prefer round robin due to time space and financial costs this is simply impossible.

We ran the BJJ intervarsity last year as well which proved to be a massive sucess. AS such we dont see the need to change any element of the rules which were used last time.

pablohoney87

tkd93 wrote: »

If you are refering to Daniel Iannelli then it was on his advice that I made the decision. The decisions what taken on the bases that take downs are in our humble opinion easier to referee. Keep your opinions and feed back coming are they are useful.

While we would prefer round robin due to time space and financial costs this is simply impossible.

We ran the BJJ intervarsity last year as well which proved to be a massive sucess. AS such we dont see the need to change any element of the rules which were used last time.

Takedowns can be a nightmare to ref. Especially when you have people using "sacrifice" throws

God_Of_War

What happens if it goes to a draw and its now "who ever gets the first takedown wins" and someone sits down and wants to start off like marcelo does or ryan hall, if you can understand what im saying, one standing up, one is sitting down?

bjj-fighter

Sorry but I really don't know why you would think first to takedown would easier to referee, who will be your referees? God_Of_War is taking about the scenario I mean, it should be allowed as it an accurate reflection on maybe the majority of matches, BJJ isn't Judo, or Nogi isn't wrestling in this case.

tkd93

The decisions will be called by our refs. We have chosen our format and wont be changing it but thanks for your opinions. Last year only about 3 matches went to 1st take down so i think the pint really isnt worth fighting over. Our ref will be more then likely Daniel Iannelli.

Richy06

First sweep/TD is a much better and fairer rule than just straight up TD.

pablohoney87

tkd93 wrote: »

Our ref will be more then likely Daniel Iannelli.

He'll get it

danlen

tkd93 wrote: »

A fight consists of one five minute round. No points winner is by submission. If there is no submission within five minutes 1st take down decides winner. The decision on a team event will be decided shortly. I agree with you about using both Gi and no Gi but i have a large enough workload with this comp alone.

I maybe missing something here completely but how are you distinguishing the BJJ event from Oisin's grappling event if you are not using a Gi or implementing IBBJF rules and/or point scoring?

Clive

Fair play tkd93 for organising this. No matter what rules you use, people will complain, so do your own thing.

tkd93

Im not attepting to do so. But mine is bjj his is grappling.

danlen

That was a serious question by the way, not a complaint.

tkd93

Ino man to be honest i cant answer that question. We are using the rules that are regularly used in other bjj competitions with the odd change or two. I havnt been doing bjj that long so i couldnt honestly tell you the differences. They are pretty similar. Our comp was organised over a month ago well before Oisin`s so we were never attempting to show the differences between the two sports. Our comp was designed to that grapplers and wrestlers would be able to compete as well.

God_Of_War

yeah look fair enough, keep it up anyway and if this tourney works out well Carlow IT will set one up before the end College year, just make sure this competition wont be cancelled bringing a serious Competition Team from Carlow IT

tkd93

Wont be canceled man dont worry

Jonah42

Will these comps be open to Staff at third level colleges too?

Jonah42

Any update on a gi BJJ or any other IV's?

tkd93

Intercollegiate Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Tournament 2013
Dear Sports Officer/Club Contact,
ITT Dublin would like to invite all CUSAI Members to the BRAZILIAN JIU JITSU
Tournament on Saturday the 23rd of March 2013 at 12.00. Registration and weigh in
from 12.00 to 13.00 in IT Tallaght reception. Competition will start at 13.30. There
will be an officials meeting at 13.00. The competition itself will be held in St.
Maelruains Hall next to the College. The competition will have Beginner (under 1
years experience), Intermediate (under 2 years experience) and Advanced levels
(over 2 years experience). This competition is also open to students who have
Grappling or Submission Wrestling Clubs in their Colleges.
Beginner (under 1 year experience).
Intermediate (under 2 year’s experience).
Advance (over 2 year’s experience).
The weight class for Men is as follows: (-65kg, -70kg, -75kg, -80kg, -85kg, -90kg
and open weight) and for Ladies (-60kg, -65kg, -70kg and open weight).
Due to the nature of the Sport rules of the competition will be read out and
demonstrated on day of competition.
The competition will be run as follows:
5 minute per match
If no submission, 1st take down determines winner
Single elimination
No slamming
No leg locks for beginners
Straight leg locks allowed for Intermediate and Advanced only
No spinal attack
No cranks
No slicers for beginners
No flying submission for beginners and intermediate
Cost: €15 per Individual.
Entrants must hold a valid ID Card and be eligible to compete under the CUSAI
Eligibility Guidelines for Domestic Competition (full details available at the Club
Corner link on www.cusai.ie)
Yours in sport,
Shane O’Connor
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Club Chairperson
Shane.OConnor@ittd.ie
0868732531

Finalised details for this competition. It will defo be no gi. Jonah42 i will find out and get bck to you

AllianceBJJ Ireland

We have a BJJ/Sub grappling club @ IT Sligo. Our team will be going to the ITT Event "Intercollegiate Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Tournament 2013".

We would be hugely interested in attending BJJ "GI" Comp