Licence costs now way up

Our man in Havana

http://www.rsa.ie/en/RSA/Licensed-Drivers/Driving-licence/Driving-Licence-Changes-January-2013/#cost

No way am I exhanging my licence now.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

all other changes to exsiting licenses will incur no fee*

pred racer

55 quid to renew a drivers licence.......****!

daaaycent boy

Tis not gonna break the bank!

stoneill

Bus and truck are only valid for 5 years and age limit has gone up to 21.

Supergurrier

Seems i will be hanging onto my pink license for now, they obviously expected a rush of people renewing them for the new one, i wont be

Atlantic Dawn

daaaycent boy wrote: »

Tis not gonna break the bank!

Not for the 10 year one at €55 but if you have to get an annual one at €25 tis a tad pricey.

JustAddWater

Supergurrier wrote: »

Seems i will be hanging onto my pink license for now, they obviously expected a rush of people renewing them for the new one, i wont be

You'll be hanging onto it alright...

As all old paper licences are valid for a maximum of 10 years, so it follows that all old paper licences should be replaced with a plastic card licence by 2023 (i.e. Applications for replacement of a paper licence with a plastic card licence will not be accepted, unless that licence has expired).

coylemj

Supergurrier wrote: »

Seems i will be hanging onto my pink license for now, they obviously expected a rush of people renewing them for the new one, i wont be

They're saying that the new licence will only be issued to people who recently passed the test or are renewing an expired licence.

That seems to suggest that replacement licences will be in the old format.

The new licence will only be available to people who are:

• applying for a new learner permit or full licence (having passed their driving test);
• renewing their expired licence.

http://www.rsa.ie/en/RSA/Licensed-Drivers/Driving-licence/Driving-Licence-Changes-January-2013/#change

555guy

while €55 is not crazy for a 10 year license it is a €30 increase which is huge .. more back door stuff from our government again

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

JustAddWater wrote: »

You'll be hanging onto it alright...

"good evening garda. I appear to have lost my wallet in Dublin city today. and, low and behold my driving license was in it"

Cuddlesworth

coylemj wrote: »

They're saying that the new licence will only be issued to people who recently passed the test or are renewing an expired licence.

That seems to suggest that replacement licences will be in the old format.

They will replace them with new licenses. They just won't advertise the fact to avoid any glut of replacements.

JustAddWater

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

"good evening garda. I appear to have lost my wallet in Dublin city today. and, low and behold my driving license was in it"

"Here you are sir... A lovely replacement pink paper licence since the one you lost was not expired"

pred racer

daaaycent boy wrote: »

Tis not gonna break the bank!

Thats not the point, how can a plastic card cost the same as your cars NCT?

Donkeyboy veradker (sp?) mentions in that link that the service was "underfunded"
Surely thats why we pay tax etc etc to "fund" stuff.
I resent having to pay over the odds for things I've paid for already;)

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

JustAddWater wrote: »

"Here you are sir... A lovely replacement pink paper licence since the one you lost was not expired"

you mean the one that's not being printed anymore ?

coylemj

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

They will replace them with new licenses. They just won't advertise the fact to avoid any glut of replacements.

I don't think so, the word will get out in double quick time and they'll be swamped with applications for replacements.

I don't see how they can claim one thing online and then implement a different policy which by it's nature will be public knowledge within days.

L1011

I have legitimately moved house and am meant to change the address on it, not sure if there's a legal compulsion mind. This has been free since the dawn of time - are they going to either keep a stack of pink paper for the next few years or make me pay?

MugMugs

MYOB wrote: »

I have legitimately moved house and am meant to change the address on it, not sure if there's a legal compulsion mind. This has been free since the dawn of time - are they going to either keep a stack of pink paper for the next few years or make me pay?

I've always got "Is this still your address" from the Gardai....

Would you really bother changing it?

L1011

MugMugs wrote: »

I've always got "Is this still your address" from the Gardai....

Would you really bother changing it?

If I'm going to get a licence that can go through the washing machine reliably as a result, yes. :pac:

MugMugs

MYOB wrote: »

If I'm going to get a licence that can go through the washing machine reliably as a result, yes. :pac:

Touché

donkey balls

And remember if you hold a cat C/D licence it will only be valid for 5 years compared to someone holding a B licence for 10 years, As for the RSA some time ago I questioned them about the costs of the driver digi card and how come it costs €23 approx in the north compared to €50 here.
Mine is up for renewal in January might just have to renew it for ten years this side of xmas.

CiniO

coylemj wrote: »

They're saying that the new licence will only be issued to people who recently passed the test or are renewing an expired licence.

That seems to suggest that replacement licences will be in the old format.

The new licence will only be available to people who are:

• applying for a new learner permit or full licence (having passed their driving test);
• renewing their expired licence.

http://www.rsa.ie/en/RSA/Licensed-Drivers/Driving-licence/Driving-Licence-Changes-January-2013/#change

No it's not happening.
From 19th January 2013 only new shape licences will be issued, no matter if it's renewal, adding category, replacement after theft or loss, either change of address.

In other thread few days ago, someone quoted an email from RSA in relation to that.

Mister Jingles

Mine is up for renewal the first week of 2013, any chance I could get it sorted before christmas ?

CiniO

Mister Jingles wrote: »

Mine is up for renewal the first week of 2013, any chance I could get it sorted before christmas ?

As far as I remember you can apply for licence renewal up to 3 months before renewal date - so yes - you can apply even today.

But you will get old paperstyle licence.

Merch

pred racer wrote: »

Thats not the point, how can a plastic card cost the same as your cars NCT?

Donkeyboy veradker (sp?) mentions in that link that the service was "underfunded"
Surely thats why we pay tax etc etc to "fund" stuff.
I resent having to pay over the odds for things I've paid for already;)

Answer = reduce the costs, cut unecessary staff etc

CiniO wrote: »

As far as I remember you can apply for licence renewal up to 3 months before renewal date - so yes - you can apply even today.

But you will get old paperstyle licence.

and you can also apply up to ten years after the licence expires!
I wonder how you'd stand on the basis of not handing in your old licence and keeping it an extra ten years
55 quid, cha ching

Del2005

MugMugs wrote: »

I've always got "Is this still your address" from the Gardai....

Would you really bother changing it?

That's just a standard question they ask. They are looking for your reaction more than what you say.

So they can send fixed charge notices to the correct place, wouldn't want to get a summons.

CiniO

Merch wrote: »

Answer = reduce the costs, cut unecessary staff etc



and you can also apply up to ten years after the licence expires!
I wonder how you'd stand on the basis of not handing in your old licence and keeping it an extra ten years
55 quid, cha ching

You could do that, but you wouldn't be able to drive legally.

Merch

CiniO wrote: »

You could do that, but you wouldn't be able to drive legally.

probably not and I wouldnt want to, but if you didnt need your licence for a period of time, you could hold off renewing it
on the other hand its convenient to have and the cost might go up again, in which case you'd be better off having it.

It was partly a joke though
Must be an Irish thing, did they look for inefficiencies and eliminate them or just jack up the prices?
Well, no, that'd be political suicide.

kilianmanning

Robbing bastards, changing address here I come

Merch

kilianmanning wrote: »

Robbing bastards, changing address here I come

?
do you mean you think you will get a renewed licnence by changing your address cheaper?


Also, I wonder how this new system affects you, e.g. having a C licence, you now have to renew every 5 years, when it is on the same licence document as a 10 year B licence,

Are they (Clicence) also allowed to run up to 10 years from expiration and still be renewed??
As if you didnt need it, you could wait 5 years until renewing the B and then start again.

kilianmanning

Merch wrote: »

?
do you mean you think you will get a renewed licnence by changing your address cheaper?

Doesn't cost anything to change address:p

Merch

kilianmanning wrote: »

Doesn't cost anything to change address:p

But surely they wont add the years to it?it will still have the same end date on it?

kilianmanning

Merch wrote: »

But surely they wont add the years to it?it will still have the same end date on it?

No sorry what I meant to say was change my address so I can get the new card licence even though my current licence is still valid, only have my licence 3 weeks actually.

Merch

kilianmanning wrote: »

No sorry what I meant to say was change my address so I can get the new card licence even though my current licence is still valid, only have my licence 3 weeks actually.

Is it currently free to change address?

as it says changes to a licence from the 12th Jan 13 will be 35 euro

it doesnt say address specifically

kilianmanning

Merch wrote: »

Is it currently free to change address?

as it says changes to a licence from the 12th Jan 13 will be 35 euro

it doesnt say address specifically

:eek:. Yes currently free. Doesn't say address no, but I'm sure you're right & there will be a fee:(. Didn't see it before

CiniO

kilianmanning wrote: »

:eek:. Yes currently free. Doesn't say address no, but I'm sure you're right & there will be a fee:(. Didn't see it before

From a link in OP it says that it's going to be 35 euros for any to existing licence. (so that surely includes change of address, name, photo, etc).

Changes to existing Licences/Permits eg. new Category added/removed €35

Merch

they have made it awkward
If you have a B licence and a C licence and your C now expires in 5 years and the B in 10, so in 5 years, if you need the C then you need to renew for how long? as there is not a category to renew for 5 years, even though you have paid for the renewal of the B for 10 already?, you are going to have to renew this also really??

I assume this is active only for licences issued after this and not a C licence issued and valid already?

CiniO

Merch wrote: »

they have made it awkward
If you have a B licence and a C licence and your C now expires in 5 years and the B in 10, so in 5 years, if you need the C then you need to renew for how long?

For another 5 years.
I actually think they might organise it, that if you hold C or D licence, than your B will be renewed also only for 5 years.

as there is not a category to renew for 5 years,

What do you mean by "there is not a category".
Renewal costs 55 euro, no matter if it's for 5 years or 10 years.

even though you have paid for the renewal of the B for 10 already?, you are going to have to renew this also really??

Yes.

I assume this is active only for licences issued after this and not a C licence issued and valid already?

Yes.
If you get your C licence today, and it's valid until Dec 2022, then it will stay valid until Dec 2022.

CiniO

I might sound strange, but while I usually complain here on this forum about many things, but here I can't see anything wrong with those new licence rates.
55 euro every 10 years for average person is not a fortune.
35 for any amendments or duplicates also seem good price.
I prefer paying 55 every 5 years for a nice piece of plastic, than 710 euro in motortax, for a ****ty piece of paper so-called tax disc.

pippip

Not too bad, also considering they had never increased the price since 2001.

They could have tried milking us way before now if they wanted.

ironclaw

CiniO wrote: »

55 euro every 10 years for average person is not a fortune.

Exactly. Its about 2 cent a day. People need to get a grip in this country. Cue the save a penny earn a pound brigade. Over ten years, I'm pretty sure you'd lose more than €55 in more non-economical, stupid ways. Its an investment, if you can't afford it (Like tax or insurance) you shouldn't be driving.

donkey balls

Considering the price has jumped up by 100% yet in the UK to renew the licence costs £20 every 10 years, And as someone who uses company ID cards with swipe access along with other details it does not cost the company €55.

ironclaw

donkey balls wrote: »

Considering the price has jumped up by 100% yet in the UK to renew the licence costs £20 every 10 years, And as someone who uses company ID cards with swipe access along with other details it does not cost the company €55.

It costs something like €300 to change a light bulb in St. James Hospital, by the time you absorb the cost off staff etc etc. The card itself probably costs at most €2 to print. The overhead is of course the chronically inefficient Irish public service system.

On the UK example, thats about €25 but they'd easily have three times to revenue stream given the amount of people renewing versus similar cost to ours for actually printing / admin so its not a realistic comparison.

donkey balls

I have to say I've never had a problem with the staff employed in the motor tax office while dealing with them, Ok it was a pain in the arse when the only place to renew your licence was chancery house beside the four courts with the ling wait.
But many a time they could issue you with a driver's licence on the same day if you were stuck I.e going abroad for work and you needed a duplicate licence.
Everyone is saying that it's only €55 for 10 years and breaking down the costs per day, It wasn't long ago when people would not question the prices of goods and services and just went along with the prices being charged.

monkeypants

pred racer wrote: »

Donkeyboy veradker (sp?) mentions in that link that the service was "underfunded".

How is that even possible? Everytime I've been in one of those offices there's been a queue of people waiting to hand over €15/€25 in exchange for a laminated piece of green/pink paper.