New BMW 4 series

GE90

http://www.completecar.ie/news/article/2257/New-4-Series-replaces-BMW-3-Series-Coup

Their is a new bmw 4 series coming out to replace the 3 series coupe.

Looks impressive, will probably have all the 3 series range of engines and of course the obligatory M4.

Could be a excellent car but id imagine bmw will charge a hefty premium over the 3 series.

Matt Simis

GE90 wrote: »

Could be a excellent car but id imagine bmw will charge a hefty premium over the 3 series.

Id imagine a very minor premium, slightly or similar to the current coupe pricing. Putting it at a big premium and removing the 3 series coupe pricing simply opens a hole in their lineup.

mickdw

Well I have to say, as new BMWs go, thats right up there.

CoDy1

Very nice indeed.

For Forks Sake

GE90

Matt Simis wrote: »

Id imagine a very minor premium, slightly or similar to the current coupe pricing. Putting it at a big premium and removing the 3 series coupe pricing simply opens a hole in their lineup.

Ya i see your thinking. We have to think of it as the new 3 series coupe as appose to a hole new car.

It is the best looking new bmw at the moment in my opinion, it might make a good cheaper alliterative for people considering a 6 series.

ShanE90

Very nice but by the time the m4 gets here it will probably be €3994 to tax for the year!

delthedriver

Interesting.

Stheno

lovely looking car.

_Kaiser_

Meh.. I prefer the full size 6 series myself *ducks*

Hey, I like saloons!

GE90

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

Meh.. I prefer the full size 6 series myself *ducks*

Hey, I like saloons!

I love the 6 series as well but at €101,130 for the base 640i coupe it will be considerably more the the 4 series which i think will appeal to people who love the 6 but not the price.

AugustusMinimus

Personally I think the 6 series is far better looking. I'd go as far to say its the only good looking post Bangle BMW.

Not sure about the styling of this one yet. Would want to see it in person first.

bazz26

Seen a 640d Grand coupe in front of me the other day, very nice in the flesh.

_Kaiser_

GE90 wrote: »

I love the 6 series as well but at €101,130 for the base 640i coupe it will be considerably more the the 4 series which i think will appeal to people who love the 6 but not the price.

Ah but there will be people with that sort of money to burn... Then in say 8/9 years...

Look at the price of 03/04 era 730d's now for example :-)

RedorDead

Lovely from the side angle but i dont like the two gaping holes in the front right and left (air intakes) and back right and left (exhaust pipes). Will reserve judgement until I see what a 420D Coupe looks like in SE form.

Voodoomelon

I won't be able to afford this €55,000 car, the tax will be too high.

Looks great.

qz

Two thumbs up, looks excellent.

dr.fuzzenstein

I'm sure the 420d will sell like hot buns. Any other engine will probably sell about a dozen in the entire country.

GE90

Or even the 416d !

CrowdedHouse

Ah yes - the old less doors, less room, more money trick :pac:

markad1

The back of it is a bit the Audi's

dgt

Wasn't the whole reason BMW didn't introduce a 4 series is due to Chinese supersticions?

It looks well, I hope it sells really well and sticks 2 fingers to supersticion

PrettyBoy

So what's happening with the 3 series coupes then?

Will there be an M3 or are they going to call it the M4? Or will there be both?

bazz26

PrettyBoy wrote: »

So what's happening with the 3 series coupes then?

Will there be an M3 or are they going to call it the M4? Or will there be both?

This is the 3 Series coupe except they are making it a stand alone model and calling it the 4 Series just like Audi successfully did with the A5 which is really a coupe version of the A4. The M3 coupe will now become the M4. There will still probably be a M3 F30 saloon and F31 estate.

ShadowHearth

Don't want to sound like a dick, but didn't they just taken 3 series coupe and slapped 4 on its arse?

We all expected a facelift 3 series coupe and here it is. Looks like more of a marketing trick then a brand new range.

I stil wouldn't say no to it though!

fricatus

dgt wrote: »

Wasn't the whole reason BMW didn't introduce a 4 series is due to Chinese supersticions?

Probably. The number 4 is considered unlucky because the characters for "four" (四) and "death" (死) are pronounced almost the same (for those who are interested, the tone differs).

I'd love to know how they handle this in China. Maybe they'll call it the "141" Series... :rolleyes:

Zubeneschamali

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Don't want to sound like a dick, but didn't they just taken 3 series coupe and slapped 4 on its arse?

Yes, and the convertible will be the same deal, but there will be a 4 door 4 series later.

Zubeneschamali

LIGHTNING wrote: »

It doesn't look anything like a 3 series coupe!

There is no new 3 series coupé, this is it.

ShadowHearth

LIGHTNING wrote: »

It doesn't look anything like a 3 series coupe!

obviuosly it does not look like a current or old 3 series, but if we would be expecting facelift 3 series, then here you go. even at this, it still does look like 3 series for me...

dont forget it is concept too. so what are the chences ofi t look like 3 series coupe with facelift?

bazz26

The 4 Series is based on the F30 platform and will be known as the F32, the last 3 Series coupe was the E92 which was a different platform. While the styling looks evolutionary in parts, one is not a facelift of the other. The upcoming 4 Series 4 door will be called the 4 Series Grand Coupe and will rival the A5 Sportback.

ShadowHearth

bazz26 wrote: »

The 4 Series is based on the F30 platform and will be known as the F32, the last 3 Series coupe was the E92 which was a different platform. While the styling looks evolutionary in parts, one is not a facelift of the other. The upcoming 4 Series 4 door will be called the 4 Series Grand Coupe and will rival the A5 Sportback.

in that case i stand corrected so.

_Kaiser_

bazz26 wrote: »

The 4 Series is based on the F30 platform and will be known as the F32, the last 3 Series coupe was the E92 which was a different platform. While the styling looks evolutionary in parts, one is not a facelift of the other. The upcoming 4 Series 4 door will be called the 4 Series Grand Coupe and will rival the A5 Sportback.

I think the manufacturers are losing the run of themselves in recent years with making variants and variants within models (Golf Estate??) to try and cover every possible angle - most of which look virtually identical to others in the existing range anyway. Better if they concentrated on reliability I think

bazz26

The gap between traditional mass market manufactuers and premium manufactures is shrinking all the time so premium manufacturers have to carve out new niches to try and retain some exclusitivity and branding.

Zubeneschamali

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

I think the manufacturers are losing the run of themselves in recent years with making variants and variants within models (Golf Estate??)

The first Golf estate was in 1993 and was indeed badged as the Golf Variant.

chriity139

quiet like that,cant wait to see one on the road

Voodoomelon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiTYQ-Zp3AI

RedorDead

bazz26 wrote: »

The 4 Series is based on the F30 platform and will be known as the F32, the last 3 Series coupe was the E92 which was a different platform. While the styling looks evolutionary in parts, one is not a facelift of the other. The upcoming 4 Series 4 door will be called the 4 Series Grand Coupe and will rival the A5 Sportback.

3 Series Grand Coupe and it exists. Cover your eyes and see below.

RedorDead

More here:

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=777190

robbie99

That's a GT - Gran Tourismo, not a Gran Coupe.

bazz26

RedorDead wrote: »

3 Series Grand Coupe and it exists. Cover your eyes and see below.

Thats the 3 Series GT not the Grand Coupe. The 4 Series Grand Coupe will be a 4 door coupe in the same light as the 6 Series Grand Coupe I posted earlier.

Damien360

I like the look of the headlights. Much more aggressive and sharp. I love the rear with the exhausts buried in the detail.

If this is the future of BMW design then they are on to a winner for me.