New Reg plates announced

TheDriver

Budget, half year reg is here

Jan-June 131
July onwards, 132

Guy:Incognito

****ing idiots

Berty

Confirmed yes,

Did we know all about it, yes.

He said it is to help float the buying market over the whole year and not just in the first few months when in fact nobody will want a 132. They will all want a 131. :rolleyes:

afatbollix

Will it go back to normal in 2014?

triple-M

so first imports in dublin have a xx-D-120xxx reg now this,why over complicate something pretty straight forward

charlemont

Dopes..

Berty

afatbollix wrote: »

Will it go back to normal in 2014?

No he said it would continue in subsequent years.

triple-M

afatbollix wrote: »

Will it go back to normal in 2014?

no

triple-M

atleast no tax increase on fuel

TheDriver

imagine: 131-D-120131
How will the square number plate japs fare..........

R.O.R

TheDriver wrote: »

imagine: 131-D-120131
How will the square number plate japs fare..........

It won't be that.

2012 imports haven't had the 120xxx plates and won't for 2013 or onwards.

charlemont

triple-M wrote: »

so first imports in dublin have a xx-D-120xxx reg now this,why over complicate something pretty straight forward

Exactly why complicate things, The current system has only been with us since 1987 and then they go and meddle over a poxy so-called unlucky number..The changeover will somehow or another cost money to implement.

It really is the Irish way and another reminder of how idiocy rules over efficiency here.

Stallingrad

I see that making exactly no difference, as long as we have the year as the prefix the majority of people will chase the January reg.

June may be busier, but only at the expense of a very quiet March/April/May as people hold off.

Supergurrier

stupid stuff

inforfun

triple-M wrote: »

atleast no tax increase on fuel

Carbon tax is going up.
Fuel has carbon tax
Fuel goes up.

LeinsterDub

Did this work in the UK?

listermint

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Did this work in the UK?

Does it matter, when have we ever altered our thinking based on what went wrong in another country.....

testicle

inforfun wrote: »

Carbon tax is going up.
Fuel has carbon tax
Fuel goes up.

Carbon tax on solid fuels has gone up. Petrol & Diesel are not solid in normal form.

djimi

I still dont get this number plate thing. How exactly does splitting the year into two halves benefit anyone? Surely knowing this country itll just mean that everyone will wait until July to buy a car as itll be have the "newer" xx2 plate? All it really serves to do is make a new car "new" for half the time as it was this year and previous.

inforfun

testicle wrote: »

Carbon tax on solid fuels has gone up. Petrol & Diesel are not solid in normal form.

Carbon Tax

I propose to increase the Carbon Tax on fossil fuels introduced in Budget 2010 from the equivalent of €15 per tonne to €20 per tonne. The increase will be applied to petrol and auto-diesel from midnight tonight. However, in view of the impact this increase will have on home heating costs over the winter months, the increase on other fuels will not take effect until May 2012. This increase is half of that proposed in the previous Government’s Four Year Plan for Budget 2012.



From here

That ll be 3 cents more as from tonight then i guess.

Green Diesel

inforfun wrote: »

Carbon Tax

I propose to increase the Carbon Tax on fossil fuels introduced in Budget 2010 from the equivalent of €15 per tonne to €20 per tonne. The increase will be applied to petrol and auto-diesel from midnight tonight. However, in view of the impact this increase will have on home heating costs over the winter months, the increase on other fuels will not take effect until May 2012. This increase is half of that proposed in the previous Government’s Four Year Plan for Budget 2012.



From here

That ll be 3 cents more as from tonight then i guess.

You're living in the past man, it's Budget 2013 now.

inforfun

So i have been told in another thread but the ****ing link says 2013.
I clearly hope i ****ed up of course.

LeinsterDub

listermint wrote: »

Does it matter, when have we ever altered our thinking based on what went wrong in another country.....

So it didn't work in the UK or you don't know?

Idbatterim

I still dont get this number plate thing. How exactly does splitting the year into two halves benefit anyone? Surely knowing this country itll just mean that everyone will wait until July to buy a car as itll be have the "newer" xx2 plate?

helping cash flow for dealers is about the only advantage I see... It also kind of muddys the water, technically a car wont be a full year old if registered in second half, it will now go up per half (so some people who considered waiting until January may now buy in the same year)...

KTRIC

What happens in 2131 ??? Therell be some confusion if someone has an antique car :-P

ando

Its all just a pile of p1ss.

People are struggling to survive and they're spending money and messing around with number plates when they're absolutely grand the way they are..

F**k sake FG, get your priorities straight

testicle

inforfun wrote: »

So i have been told in another thread but the ****ing link says 2013.
I clearly hope i ****ed up of course.

You have, it's updated now.

GE90

Ah jeasus this is actually embarrassing. There is noting wrong with the current system in fact i think its a good system. Nobody is going to want a 131 car now because in 6 months there will be a shiner 132 plate. Garages need to offer incentives to buy later in the year if they want to stop the spike in January.

TherapyBoy

KTRIC wrote: »

What happens in 2131 ??? Therell be some confusion if someone has an antique car :-P

It'll just be 211/212. Take the last 2 digits of the year & add 1 or 2 on the end.

CiniO

Will this apply to imports as well?
F.e if I import a car from April 2007, will it get 07 or 071 plate?

Atlantic Dawn

Is the rumour I heard true that the current ANPR, Garda Pulse and motor tax online systems can only cope with xxD rather than the new 3 digit pre county letters?

urajoke

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Is the rumour I heard true that the current ANPR, Garda Pulse and motor tax online systems can only cope with xxD rather than the new 3 digit pre county letters?

I'm sure a software update will fix that if there is indeed an issue.

micar

urajoke wrote: »

I'm sure a software update will fix that if there is indeed an issue.

There was an article in the paper with some guy from an IT company looking to put in a fix for Jan about this. He's was fairly confident that it'll be successful.

Personally, I think it's ridiculous that this us being done. Purely for the car industry!!!! I would not care less if that I had a 13 - D - **** car. It's a complete joke.

JerCotter7

Why stop at 1 and 2? Just make it go to 12 and put a new one every month. This won't help the car industry. It will just split the same market into two halves rather than one whole.

Sofiztikated

How does one become one of this lobby groups that seem to get all ridiculous ideas passed?

SIMI
Vintners
etc.

rebel.ranter

Sofiztikated wrote: »

How does one become one of this lobby groups that seem to get all ridiculous ideas passed?

SIMI
Vintners
etc.

You become a politician & then represent, support & become an advocate the group than you are a member of.

robertxxx

Car sales are low due to people loosing jobs and car prices are too much, a poxy number plate won't make one bit of difference.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

robertxxx wrote: »

Car sales are low due to people loosing jobs and car prices are too much, a poxy number plate won't make one bit of difference.

gotten agree... I'm less inclined to buy a car with a reg plate as such

seanhalpin

Typical. Another thing that the rest of europe can use to deride and laugh at ireland for. Look at the big thick paddies, they are so backwards and superstitious they won't put "13" on their cars.

a bloody embarrasment. No wonder the British wanted rid of us.

AugustusMinimus

This change seems bedded in the fear that no one will buy a 13 reg.

Is that what this country has come to. A fear of a number ? Are people actually that ****ing stupid

Green Diesel

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

This change seems bedded in the fear that no one will buy a 13 reg.

Is that what this country has come to. A fear of a number ? Are people actually that ****ing stupid

SIMI over-hyped peoples fear of a number to get what they've wanted for a few years now.

00833827

seanhalpin wrote: »

Look at the big thick paddies, they are so backwards and superstitious they won't put "13" on their cars.

In the Tour de France, the rider that gets number 13 pins it on his jersey upsidedown - so i suggest attaching your '13 plates upside, would also reduce the number speeding tickets you get -

Soarer

So every year car sales slow down from October to the end of the year 'cause people wait until the new year for the new reg.
And what they've done now is create a second black spot from May to June while people wait for the new reg in July!

Will probably get banned if I type what I think! :mad:

Solair

The Irish system is unusual in so far as the year change on the plat does create a glut of car sales in January and nothing for the rest of the year because the plate on the car effects the resale value.

I can't really see the addition of an extra digit changing much though. I mean, people will still see a car that's 132-C-XXXX as being from "2013". Mostly they don't give a hoot whether it's registered in January or December, as long as it has that shiny new year on it.

141-C-XXXX will be more saught after than 132-C-XXX

All you're going to do is get people even more fixated on the car's exact age now and reduce resale values even more rapidly!

Those selling on their cars should be up in arms about this as it's probably wiped a lot of value off your car after 6 months more rapidly than usual just to keep the car dealerships happy!

If you really wanted to remove the age thing from the plates, the obvious solution would be to just remove the year from the plates entirely.

and just have something like D-ABC 123 for Dublin or C-ABC 123 for Cork or whatever.

Or, just go back to a total random system like the new Franch system or NL has where you can't really identify anything from the plates at all, they're effectively just a sequence number.

If I were managing the system, I'd have introduced personalised plates with a good commercial charge for them with maybe 3 tiers of personalisation.

Say unique number for €150 (numeric bit only)

A word instead of a sequence number for say €350

Full custom plate for €1000.

It'd bring in revenue by selling it as a service.

Also, I think if the plates are actually distorting the market, then a total radical change to just completely meaningless numbers would be the only way forward.

People could price/value their cars based on the registration documents year as they do elsewhere.
The county tag on the plate also tends to distort the second hand market as certain counties, especially Dublin but also Cork have major issues with non-local regs for fear of being identified as a culchy or from Kerry or something awful like that.

It's a very small country, do we really need GAA-style inter-county rivalry on our registration plates?!

Green Diesel

00833827 wrote: »

In the Tour de France, the rider that gets number 13 pins it on his jersey upsidedown - so i suggest attaching your '13 plates upside, would also reduce the number speeding tickets you get -

Whoever gets 13D31 will have 13D31 when upside down. Unluckiest man in the world.

TheDriver

Green Diesel wrote: »

Whoever gets 13D31 will have 13D31 when upside down. Unluckiest man in the world.

or woman.....

Sofiztikated

Green Diesel wrote: »

Whoever gets 13D31 will have 13D31 when upside down. Unluckiest man in the world.

Except he won't.

A 3 doesn't look the same when turned 180 degrees, neither will a D.

Green Diesel

TheDriver wrote: »

or woman.....

or transgender.

Pardon me.

Green Diesel

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Except he won't.

A 3 doesn't look the same when turned 180 degrees, neither will a D.

Upside down, and mirrored then

galwaytt

Green Diesel wrote: »

Upside down, and mirrored then

...I belive that is more commonly called a...............car crash

asdfgh86

Jesus people will whinge about anything these days, cop yourselves on. Splitting the year in half is an attempt to spread sales out throughout the year. If it doesn't work no harm, it's hardly going to cost much to print 131 instead of 13. One poster said we'd be a laughing stock around Europe, do you think Belgium really gives a f*ck what our reg plates say? Another poster pulled out the old "people are struggling to survive and they spend money on this?" nonsense.

Splitting the year has been successful in other countries and our dealerships are struggling to stay afloat so why not try something that might give them a slight boost? Because it's more fun to be pessimistic about everything?