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Tipping: Do you do it?

  • 04-12-2012 4:35pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 543 ✭✭✭


    Apologies if this had been done a million times already, but do you tip? Is it necessary? The people are getting paid as it is to perform a service and why should they get tipped? I tip restaurant staff as a rule when I have received excellent service, but am somewhat disgruntled to think that the tip is pooled and shared, so even the grumpy and rude servers are getting some even the very well paid cooks behind the scenes.
    I was at the barbers today and haned over €8, the price of a haircut and was taken aback when the guy looked the at the money and looked at me a few times as if to say "where's my tip". Restaurants are the only occasion where I will tip, and maybe hotel porters, taxi drivers or tour bus drivers.

    Do you tip as a rule? 150 votes

    Yes, if good service has been provided.
    0%
    Yes, all the time regardless of sercvice.
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    No, never.
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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Only if they're hot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭Korvanica


    Yes, all the time regardless of sercvice.
    What did the leper say to the prostitute ?


    Keep the tip....


    (I usually tip, don't if service is ****e)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    I don't tip
    Why would you tip someone for doing a job they already get paid for doing anyway


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    Yes, all the time regardless of sercvice.
    use the fcuking search function arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭kingtut


    Yes, all the time regardless of sercvice.
    In before "I thought this was a thread about cow tipping"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭SunnyDub1


    Yes, all the time regardless of sercvice.
    If the service is good I will tip.

    People that don't tip in restaurants just look stingy IMO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Yes, all the time regardless of sercvice.
    I treat people how I expect to be treated myself.

    I always tip 20%.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    cow tipping?

    edit, too late


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    Depends on the quality of the service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭kingtut


    Yes, all the time regardless of sercvice.
    SunnyDub1 wrote: »
    People that don't tip in restaurants just look stingy IMO.

    Or simply didn't like the service ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭ryaner1979


    Should i tip the postman every day for delivering my post? tip the one behind the till for scanning my shopping? tip the one in bookies for processing my bets? Why are people in restaurants expected to tip?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭Retrovertigo


    Apologies if this had been done a million times already

    Apology not accepted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    I am in favour of reverse tipping, i.e. taking money from them if the service is sh!t.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,330 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Yes, all the time regardless of sercvice.
    ryaner1979 wrote: »
    Should i tip the postman every day for delivering my post? tip the one behind the till for scanning my shopping? tip the one in bookies for processing my bets? Why are people in restaurants expected to tip?

    Don't tip then. Feel smug and self satisfied with the quid you've saved.

    Meanwhile less bitter people will not really worry about the earning so of waiters and waitresses and go on about their lives, happy to encourage good service with tipping


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    I used to, and I used to tip well too.. But tbh I don't have that disposable income anymore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    Dodge wrote: »
    Don't tip then. Feel smug and self satisfied with the quid you've saved.

    Meanwhile less bitter people will not really worry about the earning so of waiters and waitresses and go on about their lives, happy to encourage good service with tipping

    So it's just waiters and waitresses then?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭gallag


    Love all the smug "why should I tip if they already get paid", same people holding out their hands for their Christmas bonus,, free night out etc even know the already get paid, how hard is it to understand waitress etc rely on tips just like people rely on bonuses etc stop being mean.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭Randy Anders


    Yes, all the time regardless of sercvice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    gallag wrote: »
    how hard is it to understand waitress etc rely on tips just like people rely on bonuses etc stop being mean.

    It's pretty hard, unless you care to explain how a waitress on minimum wage is worse off than a shop assistant on minimum wage?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 676 ✭✭✭Dietsquirt


    Yes, all the time regardless of sercvice.
    I always tip in restaurants when the service is good. I have (on very few occasions), told the waiter to take the 10/12% service charge off the bill if the service/quality of food was ****e. A lot of waiters expect to be tipped no matter what, f off.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    I always give a tip.....they don't always win but overall I'm showing a level stakes profit :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭crazygeryy


    Yes, all the time regardless of sercvice.
    always tip the postman. sound bloke and they do a tough job what with climate change and all that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    It's common in America to tip were the wages are considered low . I will sometimes tip a waiter/waitress myself ( provided the meal/service was good ) rather than the manager /owner skimming most , if not all of it off as part of the service .


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Atari Stingy Basterd
    No.

    For reasons why see one of the monthly Tipping threads from 2006.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 Sean O Hara


    Atari Stingy Basterd
    I tip when I'm in the states.

    Why would anyone tip in Ireland? Are people just that stupid that they tip because they see it on American tv without taking into account that the reasons for tipping in the states do not apply here?

    Rgds,
    Sean


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    Atari Stingy Basterd
    I'd tip if there was exceptional service.

    I expect a good service and I'd prefer the business owner to pay their staff rather than have them rely on the customer's discretion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 90 ✭✭Emz93


    Yes, all the time regardless of sercvice.
    I used to tip well, not so much anymore.
    Generally will always tip in a restaurant, especially if the waiter/waitress is evidently very busy as it's a stressful job and customers can be seriously rude sometimes. Don't tend to tip taxi drivers or pizza delivery guy coz I just can't afford to anymore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,145 ✭✭✭DonkeyStyle \o/


    I'll be sure to tip 20% when I'm in America, but in Ireland I won't be losing any sleep over it and consider it entirely optional.
    "Some types of labor are also exempt, tipped labor must be paid a minimum of $2.13 per hour, as long as the hourly wage plus tipped income result in a minimum of $5.85 per hour."
    sauce


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    A lot of you is saying you only tip if the service is good
    If you are gettin served food the service should be excellent in the first place


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    Yes, all the time regardless of sercvice.
    I'd tip in restaurant where I was served if service was good
    Don't really understand though in some shops where they have tip jars and all they are doing are sitting behind a till...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭donegal_man


    Yes, all the time regardless of sercvice.
    I generally tip but always refuse to pay a service charge for the simple reason that as a young fella I worked in couple of places where it was charged and then disappeared into the back office never to be seen by the staff. If I'm going to leave a tip I want the person who served me to get it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    No, never.
    The amount would depend on the service but I always tip,Just do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭Crooked Jack


    Atari Stingy Basterd
    In Ireland? Never. Everything is expensive enough here and it's not my responsibility to pay somebody's wages. Don't like doin it in the US or Canada either because it ****s up the prices and you never know what you have to spend but when in Rome...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭TheUsual


    As a friend of mine once said "T'ping is a place in China."

    And he is right, so I don't.
    I do leave a few quid for the cleaning ladies in hotels, but that's good manners.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    When the service is good, I tip....

    I've never had good service in any restaurant I've been to in Dublin. Call me a troll, but it's true. I've stopped going out to any sit-down style restaurants because of it. Thankfully, I'm pretty poor, so it was easy enough to give up. In the US or Canada I find I get better service and, even after a generous tip, I'd have spent considerably less.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭ToniTuddle


    Stateside you may not like it but yes you have to tip as waitresses literally live off the tips they make. My "wages" for a 12 hour shift would be $35 so whatever tips I made were VITAL. That's why most throw on the service charge if they know you are from Europe/anywhere outside the States as it ensures they get their tip.

    Ireland, I never left a tip except for maybe the taximan! :D Waiters etc all get paid a standard decent wage in Ireland so never saw the point of it. Seems to be very common now though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭Rodin


    I tip if the service is good.

    I find overall that restaurant/eateries service to be quite poor.

    If one person takes the order, I don't expect another person to come along and ask ' who's having the salmon'. That's one of my bugbears.

    I expect to have delivered to me what I asked for.

    Service in the states is better in my opinion as they are trying to earn their tips. Here people know they'll get paid nonetheless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭TheUsual


    UCDVet wrote: »
    I've stopped going out to any sit-down style restaurants because of it.

    How are them standy-uppy style restaurants working out for you ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭carlmango11


    Yes, all the time regardless of sercvice.
    Once again we've been brainwashed by American culture.

    To those saying "oh but they're on terrible wages". The minimum they're on is minimum wage - which a large number of entry-level employees are!

    In the US, tipped staff are paid significantly less than non-tipped staff. The wage is as low as $2.50 in some states. That's why they tip over there, it's a different system entirely.

    As others have said, why not tip the supermarket cashier, bus driver, postman, bouncer, sales assistant in Penneys?? In Ireland, it makes no sense to tip waiters and not tip the others because they don't have different wage levels applied to them.

    And the point about level of service makes no sense either - other people who work are obliged to provide a good service and don't get special bonuses for doing so (ok well some do by their employers but most don't).

    Another thing is that eating out in Ireland is extremely expensive, in America it's a LOT cheaper (probably because they can pay such low wages). Why should we feel obliged to fork out even more? To be honest I think a lot of restaurant owners would rather you didn't tip if it meant eating out more often. They already have to pay their staff and then their customers are expected to be burdened with tipping them.

    And before anyone accuses me of being a scabby b*tard I used to work as a waiter.
    Dodge wrote: »
    Don't tip then. Feel smug and self satisfied with the quid you've saved.

    Meanwhile less bitter people will not really worry about the earning so of waiters and waitresses and go on about their lives, happy to encourage good service with tipping

    I'm neither smug, self-satisfied, or worrying about the few euro I saved. I simply don't think Irish people should tip for the reasons outlined above. If you want to tell me I'm mistaken, that could be useful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭validusername1


    I used to work in a restaurant. Before I worked there, I would never have thought of tipping. Now that I've worked in one, I know how hard the work actually is and how much rude people you have to deal with, I think they deserve tips. Still probably wouldn't bother leaving a tip though unless the service really impressed me, just 'cause I'm not that generous ha. When I worked as a waitress, one day I got nearly €30 in tips, another day I got 25 cent. Most days it was something in between - like a few euro. I would never think to tip someone in another job tbh, except taxis maybe, but that's generally just a ''keep the change'' for handiness type of thing.. If I was working again myself I wouldn't be expecting people to leave tips, it'd just be nice if they would, people shouldn't feel obligated though


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Atari Stingy Basterd
    Just read what the OP said... and it got me thinking :confused:
    There was this takeaway I used to order from a few years ago. Takeaway is only about a mile away. I would never tip. Not out of being mean. Just the concept of tipping a driver didnt register with me then. Today it does. But thats the thing ... today it does. Because I heard many a driver say "if a customer tips i'll bring their food sharply" .... :mad:

    Which brings us to this guy. I always thought he was a bit of a dickhead. But 40-45 ****ing minutes to bring me my food. Like fucking clockwork. Not only that but this ignorant prick would always be "on the phone" whilst handing me my order. Every... single... time. (obviously not really on the phone) That ****ing bald headed prick. Oh and for the record we are talking Hung Wans in Roselawn Village, Blanchardstown here.


    So I come to this realisation ... why in the holy hell should I tip someone? ... because the time of receiving my food depends on it? Even tho they are making a wage out of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭Scruffles


    if by tipping,were meaning tipping chicken sht over the fence into next doors garden-then woud be answering yes; am probably the most dedicated at this tipping thing, it gets rid of the problem and its free manure for their unkept garden or yappy dog to eat-everyone wins.

    however,if were meaning money; am not a tipper because am not in charge of own money ,there isnt any actual spare money to spend,plus am never in restaurants or using anywhere else they want tips.
    it woud be manners to tip good service and woud do if was the going to restaurants sort of person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,829 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    Yes, all the time regardless of sercvice.
    Question re tipping in barber shops.

    Do you tip the owner of the barber shop if they cut your hair?

    I don't and it's sort of niggling at my conscience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭Idjit


    Yes, all the time regardless of sercvice.
    I don't see tipping in Ireland as an obligation, more of a reward.

    I work just as hard as people in a restaurant work (deal with the public, physical labour, dealing with numbers etc), and probably three times as hard as a hairdresser, yet I do not get tipped regardless of how well I perform my duties and receive the same basic way, if not less.
    If a waiter performs exceptionally well, I will tip well regardless of service charges or my knowledge of their wages. Recently I had some very bad experiences of waiters who seemed to see a tip as their god-given right and were very huffy when they didn't get one (as my response to their extremely bad customer service). But I've also had fantastic waiters that were very polite and thankful when I gave them a big tip.

    I think people should see tips as an all-rounder reward for exceptional service in any industry, rather than an obligation in a select few.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    I tip.

    I say Please when asking for something.

    And I say Thankyou when I get what I asked for.

    Thats my way of tipping.


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