Removing toilet

neddynasty

General scenario:Removing the downstairs toilet to make the room into a utility. Washer and dryer already in there stacked so going to de-stack, counter top over and some shelves etc. Leaving the sink in there.

Question: How to I blank off the water supply that normally goes to the cistern?

Pic attached showing the vertical pipe coming from the ground that goes to the cistern and the pipe branching off to the right goes to the washing machine. Should I cap the vertical pipe at the very top where it enters the cistern (which will be removed) or blank at the t-junction in the pic? What do I use to blank it?

I'm generally a good DIYer but have never done anything with plumbing before so thought I better ask so I don't mess it up.

Thanks.

LIFFY FISHING

neddynasty wrote: »

General scenario:Removing the downstairs toilet to make the room into a utility. Washer and dryer already in there stacked so going to de-stack, counter top over and some shelves etc. Leaving the sink in there.

Question: How to I blank off the water supply that normally goes to the cistern?

Pic attached showing the vertical pipe coming from the ground that goes to the cistern and the pipe branching off to the right goes to the washing machine. Should I cap the vertical pipe at the very top where it enters the cistern (which will be removed) or blank at the t-junction in the pic? What do I use to blank it?

I'm generally a good DIYer but have never done anything with plumbing before so thought I better ask so I don't mess it up.

Thanks.

When you go into your plumbing shop ask for a
1/2" 372, that is the referance number for the blank cap for your tee piece. It will blank off the outlet side of your 1/2" tee piece, thats the neatest way of doing it

neddynasty

Thanks LF. Was thinking that's what I needed to use but wanted to be sure. That'll look nice and neat too.

Joey the lips

Dont forget to get the cap for the 4" pipe. Silicone it on for a good seal.

neddynasty

Joey the lips wrote: »

Dont forget to get the cap for the 4" pipe. Silicone it on for a good seal.

Thanks Joey. I have that. As you said was going to silicone it down. If it ends up below floor level I might have a thin layer of cement over it too. Will see how it works out first.

bette

That would be the neatest.

neddynasty

Removed the cistern successfully. No leaks so far. Now I've hit another problem.

Removed the toilet and trying to fit the 4" access plug. It's one of one black ones with the screw cap on top. The bloody thing just won't fit!! I've tried roaring at it but that only made the situation worse with the wife.

Any tips on how to make it fit? Looks like it's the same size as the pipe and I can't get it all in to the pipe at once to be able to push it down.

LIFFY FISHING

neddynasty wrote: »

Removed the cistern successfully. No leaks so far. Now I've hit another problem.

Removed the toilet and trying to fit the 4" access plug. It's one of one black ones with the screw cap on top. The bloody thing just won't fit!! I've tried roaring at it but that only made the situation worse with the wife.

Any tips on how to make it fit? Looks like it's the same size as the pipe and I can't get it all in to the pipe at once to be able to push it down.

Put a picture up of the fitting you bought

neddynasty

LIFFY FISHING wrote: »

Put a picture up of the fitting you bought

Pic attached. This is driving me nuts!

neddynasty

I think the problem might be that the soil pipe isn't cut straight and when trying to push the cap down it warps slightly and gets caught. Not sure if I want to cut it any lower.

LIFFY FISHING

Looking at your picture you seem to have a 3 1/2" earthenware pipe, if so you will need to get a drain test plug in your plumbing stockists say a 3" one and when you tighten it uo it will expand to the diameter of the pipe.
The old way of closing it was pack a plastic bag with lots of other plastic bags, make shure its tight in the pipe be sure it doesent fall through cause this could block your sewer pipe and put sand and cement over it .

neddynasty

LIFFY FISHING wrote: »

Looking at your picture you seem to have a 3 1/2" earthenware pipe, if so you will need to get a drain test plug in your plumbing stockists say a 3" one and when you tighten it uo it will expand to the diameter of the pipe.
The old way of closing it was pack a plastic bag with lots of other plastic bags, make shure its tight in the pipe be sure it doesent fall through cause this could block your sewer pipe and put sand and cement over it .

It's definitely 4" plastic pipe in there. The house is only 6 years old so don't think they were using clay pipes back then. It's not cut square so i think that's the problem. It was fairly hacked by the builder. There's a dip on one side of about 3/4" and it's getting caught there when trying to push it in. I'm going to try to cut it evenly and square with a dremel and see if it'll go in then. If not I'll have to go down the route of tiling it over.

Thanks for all the input so far.

gifted

neddynasty wrote: »

It's definitely 4" plastic pipe in there. The house is only 6 years old so don't think they were using clay pipes back then. It's not cut square so i think that's the problem. It was fairly hacked by the builder. There's a dip on one side of about 3/4" and it's getting caught there when trying to push it in. I'm going to try to cut it evenly and square with a dremel and see if it'll go in then. If not I'll have to go down the route of tiling it over.

Thanks for all the input so far.

the cap you have is the same diameter as the 4" pipe in the ground, it won't fit into it no matter what you do. That cap will fit into a 4" collar or fitting. Go down to a plumbing shop and get a push in 4" cap for the pipe, widely available in these shops

Joey the lips

Go back and buy a 4"! rubber bung the lads in plumbing should know what your talking about. It will disfigure to take the shape.

Just dont cut out the hole.

neddynasty

Joey & Gifted, thanks for the tips. Have bought 1 of each and will try fitting tonight. The rubber will definitely fit anyway. Fingers crossed for the blanking cap. It does look a little smaller which is good.

Sparkpea

yes its a rubber bung u need, that first fitting u bought fits into end of pipe with a ring on it http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/naumoid/naumoid1012/naumoid101200019/8370597-grey-pvc-sewer-pipes-on-white-background.jpg