How To Deal with Religious People?

LivelineDipso

I do not believe in god, but I am not an aethiest either. I just feel the answer is something else and we many never find it. Either way, I am not bothered by it and I do not give a toss about their being gods one way or another. Each to their own.

Thing is, I have a friend and the family are all holy rollers. Big time catholics. They practically live in the local church. Now they are nice people, but the other night my mate's mother asked me about religion and I blurted out. "Oh I do not beleive in god or the bible or any of that stuff, it is not for me."

I was polite and friendly about it. But I sensed that 'something' happened when I said it. That I felt less welcome in their home. I really do not know how else to have handled it except pretending I believe in god.

It's like dealing with another species when talking to religious people. I am at a loss.

Drakares

Blast them with a thinly veiled three fiddy cool story bro

*Awaits ban*

summerskin

Are they "real GAA men" too?

DipStick McSwindler

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Latchy

Are these people also members of the local Fianna Fáil to OP ? :pac:

LivelineDipso

summerskin wrote: »

Are they "real GAA men" too?

Sorry to say they are. But not the fascist types. More the parish team supporting type. No problem with these folks.

Drakares

LivelineDipso wrote: »

Sorry to say they are. But not the fascist types. More the parish team supporting type. No problem with these folks.

I think you mixed up fascism with something else? Did you just want a fancy word? Do you know what it means?

Anyone

This weeks Religious thread was brought to you by the letter G and the number 4!!!

FouxDaFaFa

Just don't talk about religion?

I doubt every time you visit them they expect it to be a sitting of the Vatican Council.

Sarky

IrishFeeney92 wrote: »

ah ffs not another one......I dont want to live on this planet anymore

So move?

DipStick McSwindler

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maximoose

LivelineDipso wrote: »

I do not believe in god, but I am not an aethiest either.

Does not compute.

ejmaztec

FouxDaFaFa wrote: »

Just don't talk about religion?

I doubt every time you visit them they expect it to be a sitting of the Vatican Council.

It seems to be impossible to avoid talking about religion in AH.

Rented Mule

IrishFeeney92 wrote: »

ah ffs not another one......I dont want to live on this planet anymore

Stay away from the moon. The Yanks are going to nuke it !!

krudler

ejmaztec wrote: »

It seems to be impossible to avoid talking about religion in AH.

here's a mental notion, dont post in threads you dont want to? I find it works wonders.

Spiritual

OP, try this. Live and Let live and spare us your daily troubles.

Princess Peach

ejmaztec wrote: »

It seems to be impossible to avoid talking about religion in AH.

But does it really come up that much in face to face conversations? I could not tell you most of my close friends' stance on religion, and they don't know mine either!

Except one who is a placenta eating wiccan, which just goes to show that religion isn't really appropriate casual conversation :P

Latchy

LivelineDipso wrote: »

the other night my mate's mother asked me about religion and I blurted out. "Oh I do not beleive in god or the bible or any of that stuff, it is not for me."


It's like dealing with another species when talking to religious people. I am at a loss.

You didn't mention pedo priests to them did ya ? That would defo have sealed your faith as a social outcast .

Penn

maximoose wrote: »

Does not compute.

'God' (Christian deity) isn't the only god. There's thousands of the f*ckers. You're only atheist when you don't believe in any of them.

ejmaztec

krudler wrote: »

here's a mental notion, dont post in threads you dont want to? I find it works wonders.

You seem a little tense.:P

books4sale

LivelineDipso wrote: »

I do not believe in god, but I am not an aethiest either. .

Your problem is in the first line and I didn't bother reading past that.

If you don't believe in god or religion then you are an athetist!

Either get believing or accept what you are, it doesn't swing any other way.

Rented Mule

Latchy wrote: »

You didn't mention pedo priests to them did ya ? That would defo have sealed your faith as a social outcast .

I don't think you have to mention them. They always seem to be nearby.

who the fug

Princess Peach wrote: »

placenta eating wiccan, :P

Sounds like a Ben & Jerry icecream flavour

kneemos

You can't deal with them as no doubt they're convinced they're right about everything and have no less than a God to back them up,your either with them or if not you will be looked on with a mixture of bemusment and weariness

starbelgrade

Penn wrote: »

'God' (Christian deity) isn't the only god. There's thousands of the f*ckers. You're only atheist when you don't believe in any of them.

That's it OP - tell 'em you're a fucking Muslim. That'll shut the cunts up.

Maximus Alexander

maximoose wrote: »

Does not compute.

It does in my opinion. He just doesn't care one way or another, holds no opinion on the matter and doesn't want to be categorised.

MagicMarker

If you don't believe in God then you're an atheist, whether you want to be categorized or not.

OneArt

I have some friends who're snake-worshippers. It's very awkward when we're having dinner and they want everyone to do the ceremonial snake-kissing ritual before we eat. I politely refuse, of course.

Get odd looks for not wanting to kiss the snake though. Completely ruins dinner.

Seaneh

LivelineDipso wrote: »

I do not believe in god, but I am not an aethiest either.

What the absolute fúck?

Maximus Alexander

MagicMarker wrote: »

If you don't believe in God then you're an atheist, whether you want to be categorized or not.

Only with the most broad use of the term.

In modern use, atheism implies the explicit belief that there are no deities, rather than the absence of belief in deities.

biko

I've friends that believe in god big time, it's fine as long as we don't get too drunk and start talking religion. But even then we kinda respect each others point of view.

Liamario

LivelineDipso wrote: »

I do not believe in god, but I am not an aethiest either....

You may not be an aetheist, but you're definitely an atheist.

MagicMarker

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Only with the most broad use of the term.

In modern use, atheism implies the explicit belief <i>that there are no deities</i>, rather than the absence of belief in deities.

You can stick with the implications, I'll stick with the facts. The fact is that an atheist is someone who doesn't believe in a deity, hence the OP is an atheist. Whether or not he explicitly believes there is no god is irrelevant.

Maximus Alexander

MagicMarker wrote: »

You can stick with the implications, I'll stick with the facts. The fact is that an atheist is someone who doesn't believe in a deity, hence the OP is an atheist. Whether or not he explicitly believes there is no god is irrelevant.

You are wrong.

PopePalpatine

starbelgrade wrote: »

That's it OP - tell 'em you're a fucking Muslim. That'll shut the cunts up.

The problem there is that Islam, Judaism and Christianity share a god (Allah/Yahweh/God).

Latchy

Rented Mule wrote: »

I don't think you have to mention them. They always seem to be nearby.

I remember a relative who considers himself religious saying to me recently '' you know not all priests are pedophiles ''

to which I replied ...

'' of course not but it wasn't to long ago that you would have been of the opinion that they didn't exist at all and those who were abused by them were lying ''

As Jack Nicholson said to Tom Cruise in A few Good Men, '' You cant handle the truth '' .

ejmaztec

Princess Peach wrote: »

But does it really come up that much in face to face conversations? I could not tell you most of my close friends' stance on religion, and they don't know mine either!

Except one who is a placenta eating wiccan, which just goes to show that religion isn't really appropriate casual conversation :P

The only time that I've "almost" had a religious discussion during the last twenty odd years living in Ireland, was when I once opened the door to a Jehovah's Witness. I'm pretty sure that my next-door neighbour is a devout Catholic because she has her new car blessed every year. That's about it.

The only ones obsessed with religion are the non-believers on here, which I find particularly strange.:pac:

MagicMarker

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

You are wrong.

I think you'll find I'm not.

Maximus Alexander

MagicMarker wrote: »

I think you'll find I'm not.

The claim "I do not believe in God, but I am not an atheist" is a valid claim, which means the same thing as "I am agnostic".

Atheism is a refusal to believe in a deity, rather than a lack of belief.

stimpson

You're both wrong. The OP is an apatheist. He doesn't care if there is a god or not.

Anyway, OP should have said he wasn't expecting the Spanish Inquisition.

Maximus Alexander

stimpson wrote: »

You're both wrong. The OP is an apatheist. He doesn't care if there is a god or not.

Anyway, OP should have said he wasn't expecting the Spanish Inquisition.

There's a new word for me. Excellent stuff.

Dotsie~tmp

ITT. Culchies.

stephanied83

maximoose wrote: »

Does not compute.

Athiest - Believes there is no god

Agnostic - Believes there is a possibility that their may or may not be a god

LivelineDipso wrote: »

I do not believe in god, but I am not an aethiest either. I just feel the answer is something else and we many never find it. Either way, I am not bothered by it and I do not give a toss about their being gods one way or another. Each to their own.

Thing is, I have a friend and the family are all holy rollers. Big time catholics. They practically live in the local church. Now they are nice people, but the other night my mate's mother asked me about religion and I blurted out. "Oh I do not beleive in god or the bible or any of that stuff, it is not for me."

I was polite and friendly about it. But I sensed that 'something' happened when I said it. That I felt less welcome in their home. I really do not know how else to have handled it except pretending I believe in god.

It's like dealing with another species when talking to religious people. I am at a loss.

Just ask them if they also believe in the Easter Bunny.

Sarky

LivelineDipso wrote: »

I do not believe in god, but I am not an aethiest either.

Catholic?

Penn

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Atheism is a refusal to believe in a deity, rather than a lack of belief.

No it's not. Atheism is not believing in a deity. Agnosticism is not knowing whether or not there is a deity. One is a matter of belief, one is a matter of knowledge.

I don't believe any deity exists (atheism), but I don't know if any deity exists or not (agnosticism)

darrcow

the voices in my head tell me i need to kill religious people.

MagicMarker

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

The claim "I do not believe in God, but I am not an atheist" is a valid claim, which means the same thing as "I am agnostic".

Atheism is a refusal to believe in a deity, rather than a lack of belief.

Atheism is an absence of belief. How strong or weak your lack of belief is is irrelevent, once you don't have a belief in a deity, then you're an atheist.

Atheism/Theism are terms relating to belief.

Agnosticism/Gnosticism are terms relating to knowledge.

stephanied83

Penn wrote: »

No it's not. Atheism is not believing in a deity. Agnosticism is not knowing whether or not there is a deity. One is a matter of belief, one is a matter of knowledge.

I don't believe any deity exists (atheism), but I don't know if any deity exists or not (agnosticism)

I think you'll find you are wrong. In both cases neither the atheist or the agnostic has knowledge. The athiest simply refuses to accept that.

I am agnostic, I believe there may or may not be a god.

Wattle

Anytime they open their mouths just start laughing your hole off

wp_rathead

darrcow wrote: »

the voices in my head tell me i need to kill religious people.

that either makes you schizophrenic or a prophet

somairle

This is what I say to religious people: "There are about 2000 gods in existence and Christians only believe in one, so you don't believe in 99.99% of gods, so your pretty much as atheist as me"

On a serious note I hate going to the inlaws down in the country cos theyll have you at mass in the morning and you can't get to sleep because of the lit up sacred heart. I was midway through a conversation when my wife's aunt and mother cut me straight off to pray to the Angelis! I thought I'd got caught up in some religious competition. Each to their own, but I hate being made do something just because everyone else does