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Pressies for Honda paint.

  • 29-11-2012 1:32pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭


    :)
    Hi all.
    well christmas is coming and im going to treat the honda to some tlc.
    Basically im looking for and compound and a wax for it.
    ive looked after the paint with maguairs ultimate compound and autogylm wax.
    it always turns up good in the shade but in the sun its full of swirl marks.

    i have a sealey rotary buffer with a hard pad and a soft sponge like one.

    So if you guys could point me in the right direction for wax and compound and pads id be happy.
    oh yea its a 99 accord.
    thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Curran


    Are you fairly confident with the rotary? Just curious, as if you're not sure about what pads and polish to use, it may not be the safest opiton.

    Jap paint is very soft and doesnt need much to correct it. So if I was you, Id be looking at a very light cut combo of polish and pads if going at it with a rotary, especially if you havent a whole lot of experience.

    Chemical Guys Hex Logic pads are decent and you should consider the white (light cut) and black (finishing) pads for your cars paint. Their polish is quite good too - the cutting polish (V36) could do with a bit of a development, but its not bad. I quite like their finishing polish (V38), as it can be worked for a long time (doesnt dry out too quick)

    Menzerna polishes are good too, but again stick to the lower cutting polishes as they are mainly design for hard paints that come on German cars.

    Meguairs also do good polishes...but only really have experience with their heavy cutting compound.

    As with anything, preparation is key; a good de-tar and clay are necessary to get a good finish. After that, the polishing is patience, when you arent experience. Better to take a thin layer 3 times, than one thick layer and regretting it.

    Regarding wax or sealant - that will depend on what colour the car is, and what you want out of it...by that I mean the best looking wax or sealant or would you prefer durability instead. If the car is polished well, any product will look great on it!

    Hope this helps! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭TURRICAN


    I use the rotary in lines and never hold it on one spot for long.

    I'm obviously not getting in deep to the paint if I have loads of swirl marks.
    I suppose maybe that's comes with black paint, hard to keep right.

    Really I'd like to get rid of the swirls and have a nice deep black shine.
    I haven't achieved that yet though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭randy hickey


    OP, I used Menzerna FG500 with an orange ( medium/heavy cut ) Hex-Logic pad on my DA to do paint correction on my 07 Accord a few months back,and I was very happy with the results.
    Given that you are going to be using a more aggressive, and less forgiving rotary polisher, it may be wiser to use a medium, or even fine, polish.
    Many are petrified of the oul rotary,but I reckon you'd want to be a right Dougal to burn through!

    HTH


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭TURRICAN


    OP, I used Menzerna FG500 with an orange ( medium/heavy cut ) Hex-Logic pad on my DA to do paint correction on my 07 Accord a few months back,and I was very happy with the results.
    Given that you are going to be using a more agressive, and less forgiving rotary polisher, it may be wiser to use a medium, or even fine, polish.
    Many are petrified of the oul rotary,but I reckon you'd want to be a right Dougal to burn through!

    HTH


    If you don't mind me asking how much would all that cost.

    Also I use the machine at 2000 rpm, is that ok.

    Will I see damage if I burn it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Curran


    Many are petrified of the oul rotary,but I reckon you'd want to be a right Dougal to burn through!

    Yeah, you are right! However a lot of people arent so careful on crease lines or the edges of panels where paint is a quite a bit thinner and thats where they get caught out.
    TURRICAN wrote: »
    If you don't mind me asking how much would all that cost.

    Also I use the machine at 2000 rpm, is that ok.

    Will I see damage if I burn it?

    Depending on what you buy and where you buy it, you'd be looking at about 70 euro for two bottles of polish and 2/3 pads.

    Is using it at 2000rpm OK? Thats a about right!! That said it depends; theres so many variables....with a finishing polish on a finishing pad, there might be reason to spin that faster. On a a cutting pad and heaving compounding polish, its a bit quick, but not an issue if you dont stay in the one spot / heat up the panel too much. So depends on your pad/polish combo and the speed at which you make a pass!

    Yes, you'll see damage, though its not quite obvious while polishing, until you buff off the oils! The area will basically have the clear coat removed, and it will have a matt appearance, the colour layer, and youve polished away the shine (the clear coat). Sometimes it will just look very faint, almost like a water stain.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭TURRICAN


    Curran wrote: »

    Yeah, you are right! However a lot of people arent so careful on crease lines or the edges of panels where paint is a quite a bit thinner and thats where they get caught out.



    Depending on what you buy and where you buy it, you'd be looking at about 70 euro for two bottles of polish and 2/3 pads.

    Is using it at 2000rpm OK? Thats a about right!! That said it depends; theres so many variables....with a finishing polish on a finishing pad, there might be reason to spin that faster. On a a cutting pad and heaving compounding polish, its a bit quick, but not an issue if you dont stay in the one spot / heat up the panel too much. So depends on your pad/polish combo and the speed at which you make a pass!

    Yes, you'll see damage, though its not quite obvious while polishing, until you buff off the oils! The area will basically have the clear coat removed, and it will have a matt appearance, the colour layer, and youve polished away the shine (the clear coat). Sometimes it will just look very faint, almost like a water stain.

    P1010023-3.jpg


    Ok I'm going to go for those compounds and polishes, so what's the name of the pads I need.
    And will they come as a sponge on its own or will they have the backing plate on them.
    Thanks for the info above and all the above replies.
    It's very hard to pick a combo as there is just so much out there it's overwhelming to a newbie like me, sort of anyway. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭randy hickey


    Your best bet OP is to ring Larry in cleancar.ie or Curran in detailingshed.ie and one or other of them will keep you on the right track.

    http://www.cleancar.ie/
    http://www.detailingshed.com/


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