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Ricky Jervais on Fat people. So true!

  • 27-11-2012 12:30pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭


    A fair few years ago but only came across this. Very funny, but also so true. There really is no excuse for being obese!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    scouser82 wrote: »
    There really is no excuse for being obese!

    Why would there need to be an excuse to begin with? :confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    No excuse for shít stirring threads either.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    It can't be helped. Just like some people can't help being scousers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭De Hipster


    scouser82 wrote: »
    A fair few years ago but only came across this. Very funny, but also so true. There really is no excuse for being obese!

    Ricky Gervais is FAR from skinny himself - who defines the acceptable limitation of fat?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    De Hipster wrote: »
    Ricky Gervais is FAR from skinny himself - who defines the acceptable limitation of fat?

    In fairness. He did get quite slim as he got more famous (and could afford a lot of cocaine.)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    De Hipster wrote: »
    Ricky Gervais is FAR from skinny himself - who defines the acceptable limitation of fat?

    There's a cabal on boards that does ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Lyaiera wrote: »
    In fairness. He did get quite slim as he got more famous (and could afford a lot of cocaine.)

    Really? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    old hippy wrote: »
    It can't be helped. Just like some people can't help being scousers.
    Joey Barton has the ideal solution to distance himself from his Scouse roots. Speak in a silly French accent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭Ush1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    old hippy wrote: »
    Really? :confused:

    He did get slim down as he became really successful. And he made a lot of money when he became successful so he could afford a lot of cocaine. Whether those two things are linked, I have no idea.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭stimpson


    He really is the Bernard Manning of alternative comedy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    The man was fat himself, therefore he's just a hypocritical (unfunny) dick.

    Losing the weight doesn't change that he sat on his arse and gorged on junk for years beforehand. If you lose a lot of weight you're in a good position to offer overweight people advice, but looking down on them when you were one yourself is just being an ass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭Daniel S


    De Hipster wrote: »
    Ricky Gervais is FAR from skinny himself - who defines the acceptable limitation of fat?

    Meh, he's a bit too fat there. I can understand a small bit of obesity, but he does have a point with the massively obese people. Didn't he, Dara O'Briain and Stephen Fry all go on a diet though?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    De Hipster wrote: »
    Ricky Gervais is FAR from skinny himself - who defines the acceptable limitation of fat?

    He's also FAR from funny.

    Comedian? I thought they had to be funny:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭seven_eleven


    Ricky Jervais is a fat unfunny tosser.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Is this a run of the mill bash the fat thread or bash Gervais bashing the fat thread.

    Whatever it is, there can never be enough threads bashing fat people, right? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭scouser82


    I wonder if all the people who are taking offence to this are by any chance, you know, fat? :)

    He may have been overweight but takes full responsibility for it. It's the whole "obesity is a disease" nonsense which he is rightfully having a go at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Pataman


    old hippy wrote: »
    It can't be helped. Just like some people can't help being scousers.
    Yes it can. They can just stop shovelling all the crap into their mouths. Start eating healthily and exercising. Its not rocket science
    De Hipster wrote: »
    Ricky Gervais is FAR from skinny himself - who defines the acceptable limitation of fat?
    Doctors? Anyone with eyes?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Pataman wrote: »
    Yes it can. They can just stop shovelling all the crap into their mouths. Start eating healthily and exercising. Its not rocket science


    It's not rocket science, no. And it's not as simple and as black and white as you make out, either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭scouser82


    old hippy wrote: »
    It's not rocket science, no. And it's not as simple and as black and white as you make out, either.

    100 years ago almost nobody in the Western world was obese. In Japan these days obesity is still only 3%, compared to about 33% in the USA. It's got nothing to do with genetics! It's lifestyle, and today's lifestyle in English speaking countries, and numerous others is built on convenience and laziness.

    Yes it really is that simple!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    I wonder how widespread the obesity "disease" was in Dachau and Bergen Belsen?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    scouser82 wrote: »
    I wonder if all the people who are taking offence to this are by any chance, you know, fat? :)
    "taking offence"? Bit of an exaggeration no?

    Nope, not fat - I actually agree with a lot of what he says, but I'm just not a fan of reformed sinners preaching. Especially ones as smug as him.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Gauss


    Madam_X wrote: »
    The man was fat himself, therefore he's just a hypocritical (unfunny) dick.

    Losing the weight doesn't change that he sat on his arse and gorged on junk for years beforehand. If you lose a lot of weight you're in a good position to offer overweight people advice, but looking down on them when you were one yourself is just being an ass.

    He accepts he's overweight and it's his own fault. I don't see the hypocrycy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭Mr Trade In


    No excuse for eating rats neither but when in Liverpool...

    Ah sweet stereotypical one liners...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 510 ✭✭✭LivelineDipso


    He is right. However...

    He is an unfunny, no talent long, past his sell-by date buffoon. The only demographic he has left are radical aethists who think he is amazing for supporting science above all else, even though this creepy jester knows nothing about science other than going 'right on' when Dawkins talks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭Mr Simpson


    Ricky Gervais is an unfunny hypocritical dick. Wish he would f**k off already. He was a bit funny at the start, now his material is just recycled crap


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Madam_X wrote: »
    The man was fat himself, therefore he's just a hypocritical (unfunny) dick.

    Losing the weight doesn't change that he sat on his arse and gorged on junk for years beforehand. If you lose a lot of weight you're in a good position to offer overweight people advice, but looking down on them when you were one yourself is just being an ass.
    People can't help looking down on people. Same thing happens when they give up smokes. Suddenly they're Gandhi surrounded by hitler's.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    scouser82 wrote: »
    100 years ago almost nobody in the Western world was obese. In Japan these days obesity is still only 3%, compared to about 33% in the USA. It's got nothing to do with genetics! It's lifestyle, and today's lifestyle in English speaking countries, and numerous others is built on convenience and laziness.

    Yes it really is that simple!
    Well yeh, but the problem is when that lifestyle gets passed on to kids and it's all they've ever known. I wouldnt blame an obese kid if their parents were neglectful enough to be feeding them nothing but crap. Ok they need to take responsibility for themselves when no longer kids of course, but being faced with stones to lose and an entire lifestyle overhaul - massive amount for a teen to deal with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭mkdon05


    He was funnier when he was fat and he should have really packed it in after The Office.
    As it turns out when I went to see Steve Merchant live, I realised that a lot of the genius came from him, not Gervais.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Ghandee wrote: »
    He's also FAR from funny.

    Comedian? I thought they had to be funny:confused:

    Like Karl Spain


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭scouser82


    Madam_X wrote: »
    Well yeh, but the problem is when that lifestyle gets passed on to kids and it's all they've ever known. I wouldnt blame an obese kid if their parents were neglectful enough to be feeding them nothing but crap. Ok they need to take responsibility for themselves when no longer kids of course, but being faced with stones to lose and an entire lifestyle overhaul - massive amount for a teen to deal with.

    Personally I think social services should be in to take a child who is obese. Unless there is a medical condition (and this is very rare) it is criminal for a child to be obese.

    We need to stop tip-toeing around the topic of obesity, and all the political correctness that goes with it. Being obese is disgraceful and yes it does concern me, because these lazy people will put an enormous strain on the health service due to self-inflicted and selfish acts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭Blisterman


    I really think everyone's missing the intended irony of the original clip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    scouser82 wrote: »
    Personally I think social services should be in to take a child who is obese. Unless there is a medical condition (and this is very rare) it is criminal for a child to be obese.

    We need to stop tip-toeing around the topic of obesity, and all the political correctness that goes with it. Being obese is disgraceful and yes it does concern me, because these lazy people will put an enormous strain on the health service due to self-inflicted and selfish acts.
    What we should do is refuse treatment to fat people or anyone else that's stupid enough to need medical care.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭Mr Simpson


    Theres scientific research to link a few different influences on childrens weight. For instance, some research shows that there may be a link between children not being breastfed and obesity.

    Another influence is poor parenting , in a lot of cases it leads to childhood obesity, the children are hardly at fault there. But once the person has put on the weight, it becomes very difficult to get it off.

    It's very easy for people to judge, maybe if he put some of his fame towards helping campaigns like Jamie Olivers school meals his time might be better served. Certainly a better use of it, than slagging off fat people.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭Dub Ste


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Like Karl Spain

    And Des Bishop,sorry just had to.....:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    I find it difficult to recognise where David Brent ends and Ricky Gervais begins. I agree that obesity is not a disease but I don't believe people become obese as a lifestyle choice.

    I consider obesity to be behaviour along the same lines as addiction which somehow makes me feel more sympathetic towards the big lumps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭9959


    ScumLord wrote: »
    People can't help looking down on people. Same thing happens when they give up smokes. Suddenly they're Gandhi surrounded by hitler's.

    I agree.

    There is none so zealous as the recently converted.
    Could I, by any chance, interest you in a personality test?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭MJ23


    I don't know how some people think he's funny. I wouldn't look out the window at him, never mind paying 50 or 60 squid to go see him in the point.

    Unfunny, sarcastic little prick. And that gangley dork with the glasses that's with him sometimes is another fukking idiot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,538 ✭✭✭flutterflye


    I dunno.
    Is Bulimia or Anorexia a disease?
    Because if you believe them to be a disease, then obesity is often the same imo.

    I wouldn't necessarily think of any of them as diseases, same goes for alcoholics etc...
    But they are disorders. Obesity is an eating disorder just as much as Anorexia is imo.

    I know that bulimia and anorexia tend to be about either control, or punishment - can the same be said for obesity? I'm not so sure about control, - it's more the lack of control really. But the punishment aspect may be a possibility.

    I don't know too much about any of them to really know one way or the other, but that's how I would view it anyway.
    I think if someone is fat from just liking food - They are generally not going to become that big, just chubby.
    I think for someone to be fairly large, there has to be something psychological up.

    I've put on weight this past year - Not from over eating, but from a combination of pregnancy, and the pills I'm on.
    I am now working at losing it - It is tough going, but I know I'll get there, and hopefully this time in a few months I'll be back to my normal weight.

    But it's just not that easy for some people, and I very much doubt it's just laziness on their part, or liking junk food too much.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    9959 wrote: »
    There is none so zealous as the recently converted

    That's not true though. Some people just get on with their lives after quitting or losing weight and you'd never know they were once a smoker/addict/obese.

    I'm a former smoker and if anything it has given me a little insight into how much an addiction can weave itself into your very fibre. I detest evangelical reformed smokers/drinkers fwiw.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    I always laughed at the irony of Gervais taking the piss out of overweight people (and yes Gervais, you're still a hypocrite even if you point to your own weight problem while having a go).

    The only decent point he makes is how someone can get to 35 stone, 50 stone, 70 stone, etc etc...until finally realising that there's a problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭Daniel S


    I always laughed at the irony of Gervais taking the piss out of overweight people (and yes Gervais, you're still a hypocrite even if you point to your own weight problem while having a go).

    The only decent point he makes is how someone can get to 35 stone, 50 stone, 70 stone, etc etc...until finally realising that there's a problem.

    No he's not hypocritical. By admitting it himself, that's not being hypocritical. If he denied he was overweight, then it would be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Ricky Jervais is about as funny as sour milk and I wish he would disappear into a black hole someplace ...smug twat


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Gauss


    Latchy wrote: »
    Ricky Jervais is about as funny as sour milk and I wish he would disappear into a black hole someplace ...smug twat

    A lot of people here saying he isn't funny. I myself find some of his stand up hilarious and some of it terrible.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm a former smoker and if anything it has given me a little insight into how much an addiction can weave itself into your very fibre.

    Smoking's great isn't it? :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    scouser82 wrote: »
    There really is no excuse for being obese!

    you mean curvy? :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    I find it difficult to recognise where David Brent ends and Ricky Gervais begins. I agree that obesity is not a disease but I don't believe people become obese as a lifestyle choice.

    I consider obesity to be behaviour along the same lines as addiction which somehow makes me feel more sympathetic towards the big lumps.

    I suppose that's as good as it gets on the latest fat bashing thread :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Smoking's great isn't it? :(

    Yeah, I loved my smokes. First smoke on a cold winters morning - nicotine rushing into your veins and a big cloud of smoke around your head.

    Lovely fags. :(
    old hippy wrote: »
    I suppose that's as good as it gets on the latest fat bashing thread :(

    I really do think that if we view obesity as food addiction people would be more sympathetic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I really do think that if we view obesity as food addiction people would be more sympathetic.
    It pretty much is a food addiction. It's probably easier to fix a cocaine addiction because you can give up cocaine, you can't give up food.

    But I think other things come into play as with any other addiction, if people have nothing better to do than eat, that's part of the problem.


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