Church Road to the M50, which way?

d2ww

I'm never too sure which is quicker, via Windgates and the southern cross road or via Mill/Glen road and up the N11 to the M50.
So, if you find yourself coming out of Supervalu in the middle of the day, do you go left or right?

pixbyjohn

Left towards the Southern Cross , Bray at that time of day.

homer911

pixbyjohn wrote: »

Left towards the Southern Cross , Bray at that time of day.

+1

Robertr

Hmmm....I wonder. Your talking about 14km left and 16km right. However, 6kms on the right are on the N11 while you would be going over bray head to the left.

Sounds like a good topgear race....well maybe not:)

Alun

From Supervalu to the end of the slip road at Enniskerry, which is where you'd join the N11 if you went via Southern Cross, Google says 8.8km/11 mins via Windgates/Southern Cross and 11.6km/12 mins via Mill/Glen Roads. I don't know how Google works out it's timings, but given those distances, the times don't sound right to me ... I reckon the route via Mill/Glen Roads would be quicker personally despite the extra distance, depending on the time of day.

pixbyjohn

The OP said middle of the day.

d2ww

Personally, I take the delgany/N11 option as you have 6 km of that marginally longer trip on the N11, but as Robertr says until I time it both ways, we shall never know!

d31b0y

Surely you're talking about saving about 3 minutes max no matter which way is quicker.
Having said that, I would probably go towards the Southern Cross. You're through the worst of the Greystones village traffic by Super Valu.

Blandpebbles

Stuck at the lights at Blacklion, stuck at the lights at Lidl, stuck behind and 84 going up Windgates.

Straight run to Delgany junction, foot down extra time negated. No contest.

ChoosySuzie

Delgany every time - 2 lanes of traffic and no busses / tractors to be stuck behind!!

Charlie-Bravo

AA route planner threw up interesting results:

Church Road to Cherrywood via Delgany - 20 mins, 18.18km, €2.90 in fuel
Church Road to Cherrywood via Southern Cross - 20 mins, 15.93km, €2.43 in fuel (had to enter via Southern Cross Route, Bray to get the result)

The Delgany route came up as the preferred route although more is spent on fuel with a similar time. So in essence, it really depends on traffic but is cheaper to go the Windgates route, again traffic dependant...

Robertr

astrofluff wrote: »

AA route planner threw up interesting results:

Church Road to Cherrywood via Delgany - 20 mins, 18.18km, €2.90 in fuel
Church Road to Cherrywood via Southern Cross - 20 mins, 15.93km, €2.43 in fuel (had to enter via Southern Cross Route, Bray to get the result)

The Delgany route came up as the preferred route although more is spent on fuel with a similar time. So in essence, it really depends on traffic but is cheaper to go the Windgates route, again traffic dependant...

Wonder does it take the climb over Bray head into consideration for those Fuel figures??

LifeBeginsAt40

Blandpebbles wrote: »

Stuck at the lights at Blacklion, stuck at the lights at Lidl, stuck behind and 84 going up Windgates.

Straight run to Delgany junction, foot down extra time negated. No contest.

And believe me there are plenty of people that think the 60km is 6km, that the crawler lane up towards Windgates is not for them!

I'd be taking the Delgany route every time if I didn't live near Lidl

Cerco

LifeBeginsAt40 wrote: »

And believe me there are plenty of people that think the 60km is 6km, that the crawler lane up towards Windgates is not for them!

Yes, and many more who think the slow lane is for overtaking irrespective of the speed limit. :mad:

pixbyjohn

Cerco wrote: »

Yes, and many more who think the slow lane is for overtaking irrespective of the speed limit. :mad:

Just because some drivers are driving at the allowed speed limit doesn't mean they should stay in the overtaking/fast lane.
I have tried both routes today and the Windgates choice was the quicker by 2 minutes. Time was between 12.30 and 14.00

Cerco

pixbyjohn wrote: »

Just because some drivers are driving at the allowed speed limit doesn't mean they should stay in the overtaking/fast lane.

I am aware of the ROR. However the section of the road in question does not have an overtaking lane.

LifeBeginsAt40

Cerco wrote: »

I am aware of the ROR. However the section of the road in question does not have an overtaking lane.

ROR?

The section of road from Lidl / Blacklion towards Windgates DOES have 2 lanes up the hill, the idea being slow moving vehicles keep left and allow faster vehicles to safely overtake.

Sadly not every driver of a slow moving vehicle moves over, so people are tempted to undertake or overtake further along the road in frustration.

It's the luck of the draw going via Windgates, lovely road when it's empty, terrible when you are stuck behind Mildred doing 20 km/hr in her Micra, or Pat in his 1981 overloaded van.

Cerco

LifeBeginsAt40 wrote: »

ROR?

The section of road from Lidl / Blacklion towards Windgates DOES have 2 lanes up the hill, the idea being slow moving vehicles keep left and allow faster vehicles to safely overtake.

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ROR = Rules of the Road.
If you consult same you will see that that section of road has normal lane and a climbing lane, as you say, for slow moving vehicles. Slow moving vehicles does not mean those who adhere to the speed limit.
The climbing lane is not provided for overtaking and it is an offence to do so.
Rant over!
Anyway this is off topic so I will not comment further.

I prefer the Blacklion/Southern Cross route to the Delgany option although delays can occur at school times etc.

cuddlycavies

I always use the Farrankelly Rd. It's a bit longer but safer and probably quicker.