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Civil Wedding - Can I do this?

  • 26-11-2012 6:09pm
    #1
    FilmMaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 ✭


    What up Boards.ie-ers?

    So myself and the missus are getting hitched in October 2013 but we're doing it all civil like. We're having the ceremony in a very exclusive venue but for a number of reasons holding the ceremony there doesn't allow for the ceremony to be official. We're hoping to have one of our close mates perform the ceremony in front of family and friends and then we'll disappear off to the registry office for a quick wham bam thank you mam style civil jobby.

    What I want to know is this. Is there any reason why we can't have our mate do the "fake" ceremony? Are there laws against someone celebrating a service such as a wedding despite not being able to officially marry us?

    This might be a stupid question so set me right if it is.

    Cheers.

    T-Bone
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  • #2
    eoglyn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭eoglyn


    nope, no problem, do it. We plan to do the same next year. Planning a 10 minutes job in the HSE offices job for the legal side of things and then what we will consider our real wedding in our venue of choice surrounded by friends and family the following weekend. While we know that marriage is a legal agreement, I don't think the state any business in it beyond tax requirements and for that reason we are not planning any more pomp and ceremony for this formality than you would expect when paying your car tax, at least only one of you has to be present to do that.

    Best of luck, your cryptic message makes your venue sound intriguing


  • #3
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    I'd suggest doing the legal ceremony before the big day, then, to pardon a pun, there will be no hitches at all. We did the ten minute job the week before our 'proper' day. Only our parents attended to witness and sign the registrar for us. It might be a bit of a pain to be nipping out to a second ceremony on the wedding day itself, time can run away from you no matter how carefully you plan!


  • #4
    FilmMaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 ✭FilmMaker


    Good man eoglyn!

    I figured as much but I just wanted to see if there were any stupidly obvious reasons why this may have been a problem. If I get in trouble with the feds I'll put em on to you! :D

    Venue is too much a one off opportunity that's just too good to pass up. We even pulled the date forward by 9 months to get it. Ok, now I sound like I'm bragging.

    Cheers mate and best of luck with the wedding. See you back here in 5-10 years for divorce advice! :D


  • #5
    FilmMaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 ✭FilmMaker


    Cheers Lazygal.

    Totally get you! I proposed 11 months ago and even that feels like last week. We've organised for an official to meet us at the hotel after the ceremony and she'll do the job in 10 mins up in the bridal suite. Boom.


  • #6
    ElleEm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭ElleEm


    FilmMaker wrote: »
    Cheers Lazygal.

    Totally get you! I proposed 11 months ago and even that feels like last week. We've organised for an official to meet us at the hotel after the ceremony and she'll do the job in 10 mins up in the bridal suite. Boom.

    That is an amazing idea. Although doesn't the actual room have to be registered with the HSE for it to be legal?


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  • #7
    Senna
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    ElleEm wrote: »
    That is an amazing idea. Although doesn't the actual room have to be registered with the HSE for it to be legal?

    Once the venue is registered and the bridal suite meets the requirements (which it would) then there wouldn't be a problem. The door for the bridal suite would have to be unlocked from the outside as it has to be "open to the public".


  • #8
    tatli_lokma
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭tatli_lokma


    Em, check the bridal suite thing. The venue needs to be registered, but to get registered the hotel will have shown the HSE all the rooms where ceremonies will take place. If the bridal suite is not listed, then you can't have it there. As Senna says, it needs to be open to the public, and I doubt that the hotel allow non-guests into the part of the hotel where the rooms are. So in that way it is not open to the public.

    Might be better to just have the signing, legal bit done in one of their approved conference rooms.


  • #9
    Fionn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Fionn


    its explained here http://www.groireland.ie/guidelines_for_venues.htm
    might be a better idea to have it done a day or two before the big day :)


  • #10
    Senna
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    I suppose it depends on the registrar, our local two are very easy going. I had to change a ceremony from the normal room to another room that the registrar hadn't seen, gave her a call with one days notice and she really didn't mind where it was as long as it was inside the building.
    But it looks like the OP has it sorted for the bridal suite going by his post above.


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