Unusual sale on DD.

mb1725

Feel kinda sorry for this guy if he's genuine:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3654008

randy hickey

Wait a minute.....why is he letting on he's selling it for €4500....it's actually €9000?

colm_mcm

You have to pay the €1500 fine and then pay the VRT. So €6000 plus VRT means he's only losing €1500 on the whole episode.

Which isn't bad for 6 months driving on a fairly new car considering that tax would have been €300 alone.

Outkast_IRE

It should really say , will some sap pay my fine for me

yop

V true, its 6k straight away and then they have to VRT it.

He has the car in the country for 6 months so he should have VRT'd it anyway.

Not sure I would fall for it.

colm_mcm

Worth noting that you can't exactly take it for a test drive before handing over the €1500


Had been trying to sell it 2 months ago
http://bs201.buyandsell.ie/motors/cars/clare/2007-bmw-320d-high-spec

mb1725

colm_mcm wrote: »

Worth noting that you can't exactly take it for a test drive before handing over the €1500


Had been trying to sell it 2 months ago
http://bs201.buyandsell.ie/motors/cars/clare/2007-bmw-320d-high-spec

I was wondering about that too.......... "Please Mr. Revenue, just around the block, I promise I'll come back!"

road_high

Car has an NI reg, is impounded in Rosslare, and he lives in Clare. Something does not add fully in my head. I'd run a mile from any such drama to be honest.

Matt Simis

Wonder which government body impounded it? When one of my cars was impounded it, it went to the Garda impound yard in Tallaght (which is near Revenue anyhow) and it stacks up a daily charge. So Im wondering if his prices will keep sliding up.

mfitzy wrote: »

Car has an NI reg, is impounded in Rosslare, and he lives in Clare. Something does not add fully in my head. I'd run a mile from any such drama to be honest.

NI Reg means nothing at all, its not an Irish reg thats it. Would Scottish Reg make a diff?
Impounded in Rosslare as either Revenue have a larger, long term facility there or maybe he was in that area when seized. Where you live and where its impounded have no connection (as above, I dont live anywhere near Tallaght!).

I wouldnt be put off by the story (has to be quite common these days?) however I wouldnt be remotely interested in the hassle for something as cookie cutter as 320d.

colinceltic

Hey everyone,

I put this advert up, its the only way i can think of getting out of the mess. Dont know why people that come on boards.ie have to judge someone so much like they have nothing better to do with there lives.

I have it up as €4500 and i have explained clearly the situation surrounding this mess i am in and how much it will eventually cost the buyer. Plus, i do not expect to get €4500 as people are going to haggle.

So far i have had 10 people ring me and 6 texts interested in doing this, i have also had people who have seen this thread texting me and phoning me giving me abuse, if i receive any more i will be reporting the numbers for harassment.

Just giving my point of few, i will post again if it works

colinceltic

Plus i work in Clare, but I am originally from Wexford and was back in Wexford visiting family when it was seized. Customs in Wexford are based in Rosslare, hence the reason it is in Rosslare.

colinceltic

colm_mcm wrote: »

Worth noting that you can't exactly take it for a test drive before handing over the €1500


Had been trying to sell it 2 months ago
http://bs201.buyandsell.ie/motors/cars/clare/2007-bmw-320d-high-spec

explained in the advert that i was trying to sell it when it was seized so your statement means nothing really.

colinceltic

mb1725 wrote: »

I was wondering about that too.......... "Please Mr. Revenue, just around the block, I promise I'll come back!"

revenue officer i am dealing with is fairly sound, asked him could i sell it this way and he said yeah but he has to be in the car on any test drive

randy hickey

colinceltic wrote: »

revenue officer i am dealing with is fairly sound, asked him could i sell it this way and he said yeah but he has to be in the car on any test drive

Just out of curiosity Colin, what way would the car be insured for a test drive under those circumstances?
I mean, if Revenue have seized posession of the vehicle, surely any loss or damage to or from the vehicle would be on their head while it is in their care?

CiniO

Is it not illegal to sell a car registered abroad in Ireland?
I though person importing had to pay vrt and register it here before he could sell it.

colinceltic

randy hickey wrote: »

Just out of curiosity Colin, what way would the car be insured for a test drive under those circumstances?
I mean, if Revenue have seized posession of the vehicle, surely any loss or damage to or from the vehicle would be on their head while it is in their care?

the person taking it for a test drive will have to have insurance which allows them to drive other cars. do you lot have nothing better to be doing than putting stupid posts trying to dis credit someone on boards.ie?

colinceltic

CiniO wrote: »

Is it not illegal to sell a car registered abroad in Ireland?
I though person importing had to pay vrt and register it here before he could sell it.

the vrt can be paid directly to them in Rosslare so its not illegal to sell it this way

CiniO

colinceltic wrote: »

the vrt can be paid directly to them in Rosslare so its not illegal to sell it this way

I assume vrt will have to be paid by yourself, one you get a cash from buyer.

delthedriver

colinceltic wrote: »

explained in the advert that i was trying to sell it when it was seized so your statement means nothing really.

Confused here? Price in Buy and Sell was €7000?

yop

CiniO wrote: »

Is it not illegal to sell a car registered abroad in Ireland?
I though person importing had to pay vrt and register it here before he could sell it.

They do from what I understand also unless they are a dealer.


Out of interest, why was the advert in buy and sell removed there?
Why is the car advertised for 4500 when in facts its double that?
Why haven't you VRT'd the car before this?
If you have received so many texts and calls about the car this time, what happened in the intervening 58 days from when the ad went on DD.

randy hickey

colinceltic wrote: »

the person taking it for a test drive will have to have insurance which allows them to drive other cars. do you lot have nothing better to be doing than putting stupid posts trying to dis credit someone on boards.ie?

Woah there horsey.Who is trying to discredit anybody here?
I asked a simple question,which you answered.
What's the problem?

yop

colinceltic wrote: »

the person taking it for a test drive will have to have insurance which allows them to drive other cars. do you lot have nothing better to be doing than putting stupid posts trying to dis credit someone on boards.ie?

you joined boards.ie to answer the questions, the OP asked us the question and we are answering it.
We have seen many many scams on adverts for cars so its not dising, its ensuring that someone isn't scammed.

road_high

colinceltic wrote: »

the person taking it for a test drive will have to have insurance which allows them to drive other cars. do you lot have nothing better to be doing than putting stupid posts trying to dis credit someone on boards.ie?

With all due respect Colin it sounds like a very pertinent and relevant question to me, how does that question discredit you? If you don't like answering questions like that well I wish you best of luck with the sale.

colinceltic

delthedriver wrote: »

Confused here? Price in Buy and Sell was €7000?

no it wasnt it was €7000 or nearest offer. Which realistically would of been €6000

colinceltic

yop wrote: »

you joined boards.ie to answer the questions, the OP asked us the question and we are answering it.
We have seen many many scams on adverts for cars so its not dising, its ensuring that someone isn't scammed.

a lot of the information is incorrect that it is being posted. yes i am going to scam someone even they have to come to government offices with me. It would be different if i took the money,promised the car and then they never see me again. They are going to be coming with me to revenue rosslare.

colm_mcm

colinceltic wrote: »

no it wasnt it was €7000 or nearest offer. Which realistically would of been €6000

This would have been before it was seized I'd assume.

colinceltic

CiniO wrote: »

I assume vrt will have to be paid by yourself, one you get a cash from buyer.

they will be coming in with me,doesnt make a difference who pays the vrt, as long as it is paid

delthedriver

colm_mcm wrote: »

Worth noting that you can't exactly take it for a test drive before handing over the €1500


Had been trying to sell it 2 months ago
http://bs201.buyandsell.ie/motors/cars/clare/2007-bmw-320d-high-spec

Even more confused , Buy andSell ad no longer active! It was live 10 mins ago?

Colin, sorry you have found yourself in such a predicament, equally sorry that your business failed. It looks a nice car, I genuinely hope you can find a buyer. Unfortunately I find the whole matter a bit confusing. Best wishes

yop

colinceltic wrote: »

a lot of the information is incorrect that it is being posted. yes i am going to scam someone even they have to come to government offices with me. It would be different if i took the money,promised the car and then they never see me again. They are going to be coming with me to revenue rosslare.

And do you wish to answer the other questions I asked?

colinceltic

yop wrote: »

They do from what I understand also unless they are a dealer.


Out of interest, why was the advert in buy and sell removed there?
Why is the car advertised for 4500 when in facts its double that?
Why haven't you VRT'd the car before this?
If you have received so many texts and calls about the car this time, what happened in the intervening 58 days from when the ad went on DD.

1.Buy and sell ad was removed because it doesn't have the same information explaining the situation as the donedeal one.

2. Why do someone people put adverts up for €1 when it is never €1? The full price is explained in the advert

3. If you read the advert properly you will see. Business went belly up so couldnt afford it in the end.

4. Revenue has it since 16th september, have tried to get money to pay them but this is my last option.

I am a decent guy, who is in a mess, and cannot see any other way out. So give me a break.

colinceltic

yop wrote: »

They do from what I understand also unless they are a dealer.


Out of interest, why was the advert in buy and sell removed there?
Why is the car advertised for 4500 when in facts its double that?
Why haven't you VRT'd the car before this?
If you have received so many texts and calls about the car this time, what happened in the intervening 58 days from when the ad went on DD.

vrt will be paid by buyer before any cash is given to me so nothing illegal there

yop

colinceltic wrote: »

1.Buy and sell ad was removed because it doesn't have the same information explaining the situation as the donedeal one.

2. Why do someone people put adverts up for €1 when it is never €1? The full price is explained in the advert

3. If you read the advert properly you will see. Business went belly up so couldnt afford it in the end.

4. Revenue has it since 16th september, have tried to get money to pay them but this is my last option.

I am a decent guy, who is in a mess, and cannot see any other way out. So give me a break.

And I get emails from solicitors of people who have died and want to give me 1 million dollars. Are they decent also?

denovo dom

colin, this forum is 90% dominated by self righteous ill informed and nosey
social r.......ds, on a fantasy trip from their moral high ground, hope you
get it sorted

colinceltic

colm_mcm wrote: »

This would have been before it was seized I'd assume.

yes, as you can see in the donedeal ad, i was trying to sell it because i could not afford the VRT,but revenue seized it before i could sell it.

CiniO

denovo dom wrote: »

colin, this forum is 90% dominated by self righteous ill informed and nosey
social r.......ds, on a fantasy trip from their moral high ground, hope you
get it sorted

Why did you register here then?

colinceltic

yop wrote: »

And I get emails from solicitors of people who have died and want to give me 1 million dollars. Are they decent also?

if you think its a scam, that is your opinion and what you have written is actually against boards.ie rules because it is a lie and defamatory.

As i explained this will be done at revenue offices in Rosslare. I am not expecting to receive any money before the car is released by revenue to the buyer.

paul127

Best of luck with the sale hope everything works out for you

colm_mcm

colinceltic wrote: »

yes, as you can see in the donedeal ad, i was trying to sell it because i could not afford the VRT,but revenue seized it before i could sell it.

That's what I reckoned, just clarifying it for those that didn't read the whole lot.
Thanks for coming on and giving your side of it.

colinceltic

denovo dom wrote: »

colin, this forum is 90% dominated by self righteous ill informed and nosey
social r.......ds, on a fantasy trip from their moral high ground, hope you
get it sorted

cheers

randy hickey

Colin, I do have some sympathy for the stressful situation you've found yourself in.
I believe the ad on DD probably wouldn't have come to our attention if the price on the bottom read €9,000.
I genuinely wish you luck with the sale.

yop

colinceltic wrote: »

if you think its a scam, that is your opinion and what you have written is actually against boards.ie rules because it is a lie and defamatory.

Believe me Colin its not against the boards.ie rules, but its against the "rules" to import a car into the country without VRT'ing it.

Car for sale, new reg is the seller, newer reg gives out abuse. I can see a closure on this thread.

colinceltic

colm_mcm wrote: »

That's what I reckoned, just clarifying it for those that didn't read the whole lot.
Thanks for coming on and giving your side of it.

no problem. its the only way i can see out. its either that are let revenue and the government keep it and sell it themselves.

road_high

denovo dom wrote: »

colin, this forum is 90% dominated by self righteous ill informed and nosey
social r.......ds, on a fantasy trip from their moral high ground, hope you
get it sorted

You're gona fit right in so

colinceltic

yop wrote: »

Believe me Colin its not against the boards.ie rules, but its against the "rules" to import a car into the country without VRT'ing it.

Car for sale, new reg is the seller, newer reg gives out abuse. I can see a closure on this thread.

i know its against the "rules" to import a car and not register it. Hence the reason Revenue have it

randy hickey

denovo dom wrote: »

colin, this forum is 90% dominated by self righteous ill informed and nosey
social r.......ds, on a fantasy trip from their moral high ground, hope you
get it sorted

Welcome aboard! You should fit right in...:D

colinceltic

paul127 wrote: »

Best of luck with the sale hope everything works out for you

cheers

colm_mcm

im gonna close this one, all angles seem to have been covered, it'll only get silly from here on