Unfair payment??

mel1

How many pubs do you play in that give you that ould line

"twas the night that was in it" and pay less than agreed price?

Worse again, when you send in your invoices after agreeing on the price for the night and your cheque comes out €50 short, or whatever.

This is the stunt one major Bar/Hotel always pulls lately when i have a gig, and a busy gig at that, not some crappy spot with 20 people in it!
Email the invoice in advance as requested and then come out without the proper payment.
Last time i had enough and said i was not taking the cheque and would collect it when the payment was corrected and was told i wouldnt get paid at all if i didnt take the one i was given!

And i have to be taxed on the amount on the invoice which is not what i got as its on my books now and theirs.

Like to see managements reaction if their wages was left short just cause whoever was writing the cheque felt like a reduction was in order.

Is this even legal?

Grolschevik

mel1 wrote: »

How many pubs do you play in that give you that ould line

"twas the night that was in it" and pay less than agreed price?

Worse again, when you send in your invoices after agreeing on the price for the night and your cheque comes out €50 short, or whatever.

This is the stunt one major Bar/Hotel always pulls lately when i have a gig, and a busy gig at that, not some crappy spot with 20 people in it!
Email the invoice in advance as requested and then come out without the proper payment.
Last time i had enough and said i was not taking the cheque and would collect it when the payment was corrected and was told i wouldnt get paid at all if i didnt take the one i was given!

And i have to be taxed on the amount on the invoice which is not what i got as its on my books now and theirs.

Like to see managements reaction if their wages was left short just cause whoever was writing the cheque felt like a reduction was in order.

Is this even legal?

Refer them to this: the agreed invoice amount should be paid within 30 days, or else!

Maybe put on your invoice something like "under the terms of the Prompt Payment of Accounts Act 1997, a purchaser who does not pay for goods or services by the prescribed payment date shall pay an interest penalty to the supplier on the amount outstanding under the contract for the supply of the goods or services."

European Communities (Late Payment in Commercial Transactions) Regulations 2002
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2002/en/si/0388.html

PROMPT PAYMENT OF ACCOUNTS ACT, 1997
http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1997/en/act/pub/0031/print.html#sec4

4.—(1) A purchaser who obtains goods or services from a supplier shall pay for them by the prescribed payment date.

(2) A purchaser who does not pay for goods or services by the prescribed payment date shall, subject to sections 5 , 7 and 14 , pay an interest penalty to the supplier in accordance with this section on the amount from time to time outstanding under the contract for the supply of the goods or services.

(3) An interest penalty under this Act shall be paid to the supplier for the period beginning on the day after the prescribed payment date and ending on the date on which the payment of the amount due is made.

(4) For the purposes of subsection (3), payment shall be taken to have been made when the appropriate amount of cash is received by the supplier, the appropriate amount is credited by, on behalf of, or at the direction of, the purchaser to an account nominated by the supplier, or the supplier is put in a position by the purchaser to be able, by the supplier's own actions, to credit the appropriate amount (for example, by the depositing of a cheque which is subsequently honoured) to such an account.

(5) An interest penalty in accordance with this section is not capable of being waived by the supplier, and shall be included with the amount payable for the goods or services without demand for its payment being made by the supplier.

miniroar

musicians are second hand citizens when it comes to payment if they had a plumber in to do a job theywon't leave them short why thibnk they can mess musicians around?word gets round bout these places on the scene and they can only get sh1t acts in, course you always get the exceptions who look after you and give extra for good nights there the ones that stay in business for years!!

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mel1 wrote: »

How many pubs do you play in that give you that ould line

"twas the night that was in it" and pay less than agreed price?

Worse again, when you send in your invoices after agreeing on the price for the night and your cheque comes out €50 short, or whatever.

And i have to be taxed on the amount on the invoice which is not what i got as its on my books now and theirs.

If you are Invoicing them, then you are not an employee of the hotel, so why are they paying tax for you? Its up to you to do your own tax returns not them.

Its only ever happened to me once when I was younger, we got 50 less on a sunday night in a country pub. I was raging considering they didnt put up any of our posters, all they did was write "BUZ live tonight" inside the door of the pub.....our band was called "Fret Buzz". In that situation we had 5 equal shares, so it was a tenner less each.

mel1

Jamir Mysterious Alternator wrote: »

If you are Invoicing them, then you are not an employee of the hotel, so why are they paying tax for you? Its up to you to do your own tax returns not them.

Its only ever happened to me once when I was younger, we got 50 less on a sunday night in a country pub. I was raging considering they didnt put up any of our posters, all they did was write "BUZ live tonight" inside the door of the pub.....our band was called "Fret Buzz". In that situation we had 5 equal shares, so it was a tenner less each.

I am paying my own tax on the invoices which are incorrect on their books, if the tax man were to review theirs and ours im sure they would be wonderin why i would be changeing my invoices to a lesser amount as im quite sure the pub is not changeing the amount paid out for the invoice!

maccored

i wouldnt keep playing in such a venue. If they dont pay the full invoice, inform them you have to destroy the old one and reissue them with one with the correct amount. but personally, if they have a tendancy to act like that, I wouldnt play there in the first place.