Apprenticeship

Hillbilly massey

I am currently in 6th year and will b sitting my leaving cert in June. I never liked school and struggled at times to get my education this far. Iv always had a massive interest in tractors, cars and machinery growing up on the farm. Iv worked with a mechanic over the summer and the year before with fabricators so I know what it's like and have a little experience. I don't want to go to college I'd prefer an apprenticeship but I'm worried that if I do get one it might stop half way through and leave me with nothing like a friend of mine. Any advice at all welcome on mechanic, hgv, fitter, fabricator etc cars tractors lorrys. Or does anyone know anywhere looking for apprentices? Thanks

Figerty

One way or another you will be going to college if you do and apprenticesip. All apprenticeship courses involve a stint in FAS and then a stint in and Institute of Technology.
Your best chance of getting and apprenticeship is by having a decent leaving cert. Your best chance of getting through an apprenticeship traning programme is by getting your head down and studying with the long term aim of getting through the college part of the apprenticeship. There is no chance of doing a 'time served' apprenticeship now as they don't exist.
Get out on the road and approach companies and ask them to take you on. They wont coming looking for you.
I don't work for FAS but I know they have been very good at placeing unemployed apprentices so I don't know why your friend hasn't been able to complete his.

Diesel Dick

i was in the same boat as u before, hated school and left for a year to work on the farm when i was 16. but then went back to do the leaving cert but ever since i can remember i wanted to be a mechanic so after leaving cert got onto a fas scheme that put me in placement with an agri mechanic for 6 months (i did the 'footwork' and found a place to take me on) but fas paid me for the 6 months and at the end my boss offered me an apprenticeship, so im now serving my time and i love what i do. the 'off the job' part of the apprenticeship is tough it can be boring and if u didnt like school u wont like fas but ull struggle through it! i know i was very fortunate but theres no reason u couldnt get an apprenticeship the same way! i would definately recommend trying to get onto the fas 'linked work' scheme like myself!

rs8

what part of ireland are you? the reason i ask is meath farm machinery are opening a third banch outside endfield and could possibly want a apprentice!

MidlandsM

what you need to get an apprenticeship is PULL ........end of.

the keen edge

MidlandsM wrote: »

what you need to get an apprenticeship is PULL ........end of.

OK, so you're saying that the only way anybody will ever get an apprenticeship is if they have some kind of special, unexplained relationship with a potential employer.

Well there you have it OP the man has spoken.

Although on the another hand you could of course try the crazy maverick approach of seeking out an apprenticeship by demonstrating your passion for the trade to local business/garages.

I think you'll find OP, that in life keenness and a willing attitude are the qualities that will create and build your career.
If a mechanical apprenticeship is what you really want, you will find it; but wont be dropped on your lap. Be pro-active contact your local FAS office and motor garages as a starting point. And as a general rule when someone says end of ignore them.

THE LINK WALSH

Hillbilly massey wrote: »

I am currently in 6th year and will b sitting my leaving cert in June. I never liked school and struggled at times to get my education this far. Iv always had a massive interest in tractors, cars and machinery growing up on the farm. Iv worked with a mechanic over the summer and the year before with fabricators so I know what it's like and have a little experience. I don't want to go to college I'd prefer an apprenticeship but I'm worried that if I do get one it might stop half way through and leave me with nothing like a friend of mine. Any advice at all welcome on mechanic, hgv, fitter, fabricator etc cars tractors lorrys. Or does anyone know anywhere looking for apprentices? Thanks

The very best of luck to you with this,hopefully it will work out for you.imo you are not going to get lucky enough to happen on an apprenticeship straight from school,theres hundreds of young people in every County in Ireland looking for one and there are only a few available.You need to do something like a Mechanical Engineering course for a Year after you complete your leaving cert to give yourself some kind of an advantage when approaching would be employers,Pallaskenry in Limerick and Kildalton College in South Kilkenny are both running these type of courses,you wont feel another Year passing,dont be in a hurry to get away from education.

MidlandsM

the keen edge wrote: »

OK, so you're saying that the only way anybody will ever get an apprenticeship is if they have some kind of special, unexplained relationship with a potential employer.

Well there you have it OP the man has spoken.

Although on the another hand you could of course try the crazy maverick approach of seeking out an apprenticeship by demonstrating your passion for the trade to local business/garages.

I think you'll find OP, that in life keenness and a willing attitude are the qualities that will create and build your career.
If a mechanical apprenticeship is what you really want, you will find it; but wont be dropped on your lap. Be pro-active contact your local FAS office and motor garages as a starting point. And as a general rule when someone says end of ignore them.

nice lame try at trying to put words in my mouth........and the rest of your post is frankly bollox and you don't seem to know the way is works in the real world, in this country, in a recession.......like all the times before in other recessions, nothing ever changes.......you need Pull.

Hillbilly massey

I'm in the process of getting references from the garage avd the fabricators I have worked for. A man I have done some fabricating for privately at home had got in contact with a friend of his who I'm supposed to meet next week. Everyone says its a good place to work and ul learn a lot so I'm just hoping for the best. I have looked at pallaskenry but ur not qualified at the end as anything u gave to go to college to get ur level 7 which is turning me off. I'm living in cork. Willing to travel in Munster at least

MidlandsM

Hillbilly massey wrote: »

A man I have done some fabricating for privately at home had got in contact with a friend of his who I'm supposed to meet next week.

see, I was right......PULL ........or as they say in business buzz terms, "networking"

good luck

the keen edge

MidlandsM wrote: »

.......and the rest of your post is frankly bollox and you don't seem to know the way is works in the real world, in this country, in a recession.......like all the times before in other recessions, nothing ever changes.......you need Pull.

Eh so all this is bollox?

the keen edge wrote: »

Although on the another hand you could of course try the crazy maverick approach of seeking out an apprenticeship by demonstrating your passion for the trade to local business/garages.

I think you'll find OP, that in life keenness and a willing attitude are the qualities that will create and build your career.
If a mechanical apprenticeship is what you really want, you will find it; but wont be dropped on your lap. Be pro-active contact your local FAS office and motor garages as a starting point. And as a general rule when someone says end of ignore them.

I think thats pretty good advice. What specifically is bollox about all of it?

MidlandsM wrote: »

see, I was right......PULL

You couldn't be in fact more wrong, its amazing that you actually posted back here on this thread in light of the OP last posting.
The OP isn't getting on because of pull, he is getting a good reference probably on the back showing the skills and willingness in that bit of work he has done.

How do you not see this?

Remember you said that Pull was the be all and end all, in finding an apprenticeship, you do say that right?

Then you come back here waffling on how you were right, bizarrely so when its clear that the OP's skills helped him get (hopefully) a foot in the door.

MidlandsM

the keen edge wrote: »

Eh so all this is bollox?

I think thats pretty good advice. What specifically is bollox about all of it?





You couldn't be in fact more wrong, its amazing that you actually posted back here on this thread in light of the OP last posting.
The OP isn't getting on because of pull, he is getting a good reference probably on the back showing the skills and willingness in that bit of work he has done.

How do you not see this?

Remember you said that Pull was the be all and end all, in finding an apprenticeship, you do say that right?

Then you come back here waffling on how you were right, bizarrely so when its clear that the OP's skills helped him get (hopefully) a foot in the door.

LOL ....you dreamer, of course its Pull...........good jaysus, thats the way this little country works..........always has......

Figerty

MidlandsM wrote: »

LOL ....you dreamer, of course its Pull...........good jaysus, thats the way this little country works..........always has......

Pull is when you get something you don't deserve above someone who does deserve it.
There isn't too mutch of that going on right now employers cant afford the bad employees. Family buisnesses are always different.
Ive seen it in semi-state companies where fathers get their sons in. Problem is most of the times the sons are not a chip of the old block and are a waste of resources. Not too much of that happening now.

Conor556

Same boat as myself I doing leaving in june aswell, Im thinking of doing the agri mechanization course in pallaskenrey its only 2 years and includes a 9 month work placement.

MidlandsM

Figerty wrote: »

Pull is when you get something you don't deserve above someone who does deserve it.
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agreed, it can be, but then its true to say it can't be .....regardless of the inherent skillset of any potential apprentice, pull is pull......it can be an "injust" leg up into a job, or some welcome help.....depends on your viewpoint.

But theres is no denying Ireland was and is rife with it.

Hillbilly massey

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Conor556 wrote: »

Same boat as myself I doing leaving in june aswell, Im thinking of doing the agri mechanization course in pallaskenrey its only 2 years and includes a 9 month work placement.

I have been to the open day looks an impressive place that I will go if I'm unlucky at getting work. My only problem is the level 5 won't get you a job anywhere cus yr not actually trained in anything just touching on all parts

Conor556

Hillbilly massey wrote: »

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I have been to the open day looks an impressive place that I will go if I'm unlucky at getting work. My only problem is the level 5 won't get you a job anywhere cus yr not actually trained in anything just touching on all parts

Level 6 i thought?

Diesel Dick

Conor556 wrote: »

Same boat as myself I doing leaving in june aswell, Im thinking of doing the agri mechanization course in pallaskenrey its only 2 years and includes a 9 month work placement.

That course is very handy. with any luck u could get an apprenticeship from the company u go to on placement..... and if u have dat course done u can skip phase 2 of the agri mechanic apprenticeship

Apprentice Mechanic

I was the excat same OP as I hated school as I type this I hate of education like school but I learn by using my hands & using my head not by books but saying no problem understandin partical realated work work eg workshop manuals as if I didnt sleep only for a few hours becuse of loads personal problems being builled at school because I am mininum 50% deaf in one ear,many other issues ,As I grew up on a farm I knew I wanted to be work at machainical related work as I love all ascpects of mechanical and car related works, I learned myself how to service agri machainery,electrical wiring,plumbing,valeting, before secureing an apprenticeship with no contacts when I started in the sector now I know more people than after looking since 2007 for an apprenticeship it toke over five years which atleast 75% of garages over 150 miles radius from my homeplace , To OP you said you are from Cork I know that Lynch & Mc Carthy lately were looking for quailifed mechaics but you never know your luck if the are looking for an apprentice as it would be cheaper labour for them

Hillbilly massey

I have given my name to a number of company's. the most have told me get back after my leaving cert but I think it's looking like il be heading to college. Ag engineering or auto electrics I think!

Conor556

Diesel Dick wrote: »

That course is very handy. with any luck u could get an apprenticeship from the company u go to on placement..... and if u have dat course done u can skip phase 2 of the agri mechanic apprenticeship

The maths is the only thing im worried about