Can I have some advice on this WC setup

Headshot

Basically im not to sure what is up with my pump+res

So im getting this horrible noise out of the pump

Now I have a lot of very small bubbles in the tubes (see arrows)



As you can see from the youtube vid that humming is pretty bad, now iv read that people are complaining about noise on the XSPC 750 res/pump combo. But im unsure about my one in terms of will the noise getting better eventually after the bubbles pass thru or is there more to this?

My current temps (no load) and have been cooler thou....

ED E

Video doesnt give us a huge amount, would be better off with the leds off and a proper light source near the case.

Not a WC head myself but a bit of spitballing:
Is the res mounted well? If its not it may vibrate off the case and increase noise.
Did you do proper procedure to remove all air?
Cant see the water level, but it needs to be a bit above the intake on the pump. Its good to leave a little air at the top too to allow for expansion(or so I've heard).

If a pump is struggling it'll be noisy, is does it have a huge amount of work to do?(doesnt look like it from the pic).

Serephucus

I've got a good idea of the sound, but I can't actually see what's going on with the water flow to the pump there. I can see some twinkling light where I think the inlet to the pump is, and what would signify and air bubble, so it could just be what it has to bleed out.

If you pinch the tube close to the inlet (for 1-2 sec.) does that dislodge the air?

Headshot

Ya lads its the pump, so special tech have sent me out a new one today

lol this wc is taking the piss at this stage

Serephucus

You going to swap out the pump yourself, or?

Headshot

Serephucus wrote: »

You going to swap out the pump yourself, or?

Ill see how it goes tbh

Ill read up about it and take it from there

Seems easy to bleed it thou, just put a barb on the end of tube and insert into the res cap and bleed

Serephucus

Well, it depends where in the res. If it's at the top, the water's not going to go anywhere. If it's at the bottom, as soon as you unscrew something you'll have water pouring everywhere.

Easiest thing is to just move whatever has the most slack outside the case over a bucket, and unscrew a barb.

Headshot

Serephucus wrote: »

Well, it depends where in the res. If it's at the top, the water's not going to go anywhere. If it's at the bottom, as soon as you unscrew something you'll have water pouring everywhere.

Easiest thing is to just move whatever has the most slack outside the case over a bucket, and unscrew a barb.

the res opening is on top so its handy enough

Ill have to get a spare barb 1/2 thou

After the bleeding is there anything else I need to do?

Serephucus

Ok, but what I'm saying is, if the opening is in the top, and you put a tube in there, all you're going to have is a res with water in it, and a tube sticking up. If you then tipped the res over, into a bucket or something, that would work.

It's not rocket surgery, just... get the water out somehow. :P

Headshot

Serephucus wrote: »

Ok, but what I'm saying is, if the opening is in the top, and you put a tube in there, all you're going to have is a res with water in it, and a tube sticking up. If you then tipped the res over, into a bucket or something, that would work.

It's not rocket surgery, just... get the water out somehow. :P

im not that bad, that was the plan. I want to know is there anything special I have to do after installing the new pump?

Serephucus

Nope, fill res, turn on for a few seconds until res is empty, turn off, fill again, turn on for a few seconds, etc. until full. Leave for a few hours to leak test (basically been done already), then check every few days and top up res as necessary.

Headshot

Serephucus wrote: »

Nope, fill res, turn on for a few seconds until res is empty, turn off, fill again, turn on for a few seconds, etc. until full. Leave for a few hours to leak test (basically been done already), then check every few days and top up res as necessary.

Thanks very much Serephucus

I have to give credit to specialtech btw, yes the pump turned out crap but they have sent out a new one today and once I receive it I can send back the bad one

Good customer service there

Serephucus

Headshot wrote: »

I have to give credit to specialtech btw, yes the pump turned out crap but they have sent out a new one today and once I receive it I can send back the bad one

Good customer service there

Told ya! :P

Bloodwing

Glad to hear you're getting back on track with this Headshot. If all this had happened to me on my first attempt at watercooling I probably would have fecked the lot on Adverts. I can't see myself going back to air now.

Specialtech forgot to send the barbs i ordered, so they're not perfect, but I only got those as extras so it wasn't a massive issue. WCUK were a lot slower to dispatch my order than Specialtech so I'll be sticking with them in future.

smileyj1987

I followed this guide last time I had to drain my CPU loop to clean it out . I actually drained the system the way Linus did and it was so easy .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnbbZQ2OhEg

Serephucus

Ordered stuff from WCUK myself. That got dispatched today. The Specialtech stuff didn't though, still waiting on that to move. Will post back with experiences of both when stuff arrives. Hopefully stuff goes alright for you Headshot.

Edit: @Smiley, he can't do that, as (AFAIK) there isn't enough spare tube to start cutting.

Headshot

This is what I plan to do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzxh9-aavQQ

Serephucus

Yeah, that's fine (though more effort). Just be mindful of the fact that that's not going to get all the water out. Depending on how the tubing is done, you might still have slight U-bends where water will sit, so you'll want to pop a tube off and blow through it or something. That, or put kitchen paper all over the place when you go to actually pull the tubing apart.

smileyj1987

Serephucus wrote: »

Yeah, that's fine (though more effort). Just be mindful of the fact that that's not going to get all the water out. Depending on how the tubing is done, you might still have slight U-bends where water will sit, so you'll want to pop a tube off and blow through it or something. That, or put kitchen paper all over the place when you go to actually pull the tubing apart.

If you do spill water on the parts , just put the parts in the hot press for a week in a bag with some dry long grain at the end of the bag . I did that with a laptop and it worked except it had vodka and red bull spilled on it .

Serephucus

Headshot has been without a computer for a long time already, I doubt he wants his computer in the hot-press for a week. :P

Headshot

Serephucus wrote: »

Yeah, that's fine (though more effort). Just be mindful of the fact that that's not going to get all the water out. Depending on how the tubing is done, you might still have slight U-bends where water will sit, so you'll want to pop a tube off and blow through it or something. That, or put kitchen paper all over the place when you go to actually pull the tubing apart.

Does all the water have to come out?

Serephucus

Technically, no. Practically, just enough so that none drips/splashes/whatever on components, which usually means all, or as much as makes no difference.

Tea_Bag

sorry I wasn't around yesterday, had some rl problems.

you won't need to use a barb.

remove GPUs and sound card. HDDs too seeing as they're quick release and just to be safe. cover the motherboard in lots of kitchen roll. stuff costs €2 and board costs 140, so don't skimp out.

remove the DVD drive, then the 2 screws holding in the res. it can be slid forward a few cm. unscrew the filler cap, and tilt forward over a bucket to drain it.



there is going to be loads of water in the rad too, so once its drained, put the filler cap back on, and lean the case in the opposite direction or whatever it takes to get the water flowing through the tube back into the res from the rad.

rinse and repeat

it may sound complex but its not too difficult. I hope I'm explaining it right?

once you got 99% water out, you can start to remove the tubing from the res. the clamps are very tight, you might need some long nose pliers to get them off. tube should be able to be decoupled just by pulling it hopefully.

I've no idea how to take apart the res to put in a new pump. it was pre assembled. I didn't spend much time looking over how it worked. are they sending just a pump or the whole res/pump?

take your time anyway. if you've any questions throw them up here as you go along.

Headshot

They are just sending me a new pump. I was hoping just to beable to take out the dual bay (res+pump) without taking the tubing out but I dont think that's possible with the tubes

Thanks tea for the advice

Hey btw when you were monitoring the temp of my cpu. did core 1 ever jump out at ya for always being higher than others?

For example


I know its not a big difference but just wondering all the same

Serephucus

Yup, it happens. Mine read 36, 36, 38, 34.

Tea_Bag

im on 24, 31, 25, 26.

Headshot

Some great news they sent me a whole new dual bay

Now that should make life easier

smileyj1987

Headshot wrote: »

Some great news they sent me a whole new dual bay

Now that should make life easier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvX_5ym_ajI

Thank god you got a full replacement . Looking forward to hearing that its working soon

Headshot

Jebus tea bag tighten the **** out of the tubes. The 1st picture there. Where does the IN cpu tube go in the Bay? AFAIK it goes in the back of the motor

Serephucus

The outlet for the res dictacts the direction of water flow, so you want it to go from the res outlet (the one behind the pmp) to the inlet of the CPU block, to the outlet of the CPU block, to the radiator (whichever, doesn't matter), out of the radiator, and back into the res inlet (the one on its own, towards the left if looking from the back).

It's explained pretty well here.

Headshot

Great news I'm up and going and do you hear that? neither do I. The pump is a joy so far. I'll still let it run for a few hours thou

Serephucus

Excellent news. Now go post some decent shots of the damn thing!

Headshot

I think ill put back the GPU's now what ya think?

Serephucus

How long has it been left to run?

Headshot

Maybe over an hr. I I know about the 24 hrs thing but I thought that I could get away with it since I just replaced the bay.

Serephucus

You can, but I'd leave it for longer than an hour. The res is one of the most likely places to have leaks, so I'd leave it for at least four. It's up to you though.

Headshot

Serephucus wrote: »

You can, but I'd leave it for longer than an hour. The res is one of the most likely places to have leaks, so I'd leave it for at least four. It's up to you though.

I'll give it by 10pm mate. That should do the job

Headshot

Btw those af and sp 120 fans are the bees knees and remember my old mobo ? This what computer universe said

Many Pins are bent, the board is out
  of warranty. We can send it to the
  manufacture to repair it. But we think
  the manufacturer refuse this.
  Please tell us what we should do.

I told them to send it to the manufacturer

Headshot

I am finally done people and finally WC lives up to what I thought it could be

Like the opportunity thank tea bag for all his help and the help over the phone today

ill be putting pics in the image thread

Its a joy that the noise is finally gone and the temps are the best yet

Serephucus

Watercooling WIN!!

Headshot

Serephucus I forgot to thank you personally

With your help thru pms and here, thanks alot man

Serephucus

No problem. Goes for anyone actually, happy to help with WC stuff. After ordering parts (and actually getting excited since parts shipped) I forgot just how much of a nut I am with this stuff.

deejer

Im just wondering if you have a plan for the other dual bay res?

Headshot

deejer wrote: »

Im just wondering if you have a plan for the other dual bay res?

Im suppose to send it back but I can ask if I can keep it

I had a scare last night. There was a few droplets on the outside of the res tube

deejer

no problem if you have to return it. just thought it might not be put to use, I have a pump here with no housing so it might be an option for me.

Tea_Bag

how's it looking today?

keep some paper towels under the res barbs and run it for a bit just to make sure those droplets don't come back.

Headshot

Tea_Bag wrote: »

how's it looking today?

keep some paper towels under the res barbs and run it for a bit just to make sure those droplets don't come back.

Okay so far

I adjusted the clips and they seem to be okay now