Sunday 18th - The day of the tron!

Shane732

If someone could tell me why Oscars Well isn't good value it'd be great.....

Morgans

Backed him at 5/6 last night. Surprised 4/5 is still available.

Ground is my fear. Miles better than these.

ste2010

Morgans wrote: »

Backed him at 5/6 last night. Surprised 4/5 is still available.

Ground is my fear. Miles better than these.

He did alright in leopardstown in heavy last year coming second to hurricane fly

ste2010

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Hulk Hands

I like Captain Cee Bee in the without HF market at 9/2. CCB was impressive last time out in heavy ground, and figures to strip fit. Go Native doesn't go well in the mud, so I think there's a decent chance CCB can beat him in these conditions, especially if GN tries to go with HF and empties quickly.

Add in the very real chance that something could go wrong with GN after his problems. I don't think he'll be forced round here if Carberry feels something amiss early. I'd have him at 1/4 to even complete the course, making the 9/2 on CCB value even if he was a tree

NaiveMelodies

Oscars fall???

Anyone have an ATR stream they could PM me, stuck in the library and don't wanna miss HF

Slattsy

Oscars Well falls !!!

Ouch for anyone that went big on a novice chaser on barely raceable ground !!

Colonel Sanders

Bookies must be getting cleaned at Cheltenham.

11/10 SP there was quite good, it was no bigger on Betfair

Shane732

Colonel Sanders wrote: »

Bookies must be getting cleaned at Cheltenham.

11/10 SP there was quite good, it was no bigger on Betfair

Very surprise by the price. Barry Geraghty has been talking him up for ages.

Morgans

Slattsy wrote: »

Oscars Well falls !!!

Ouch for anyone that went big on a novice chaser on barely raceable ground !!

It happens. If they were racing tomorrow, I'd be even more sure of the bet.

Hulk Hands

Hulk Hands wrote: »

I like Captain Cee Bee in the without HF market at 9/2. CCB was impressive last time out in heavy ground, and figures to strip fit. Go Native doesn't go well in the mud, so I think there's a decent chance CCB can beat him in these conditions, especially if GN tries to go with HF and empties quickly.

Add in the very real chance that something could go wrong with GN after his problems. I don't think he'll be forced round here if Carberry feels something amiss early. I'd have him at 1/4 to even complete the course, making the 9/2 on CCB value even if he was a tree

Pox lucky but i'll take it. Hope Go Native is ok, will be a serious horse for the christmas hurdle again on that viewing

Shane732

Hmm.... Bit of a let down in the end I think.

Would Go Native have beaten him?

Also, how much of a threat is Go Native actually going to be come CH time?

Luap

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Pox lucky but i'll take it. Hope Go Native is ok, will be a serious horse for the christmas hurdle again on that viewing

U'll take it, does anyone think HF was in trouble if he didn't fall?

Shane732

Luap wrote: »

U'll take it, does anyone think HF was in trouble if he didn't fall?

You never know with Carberry what he's got left in the tank. He was certainly well capable of sticking with HF.

Colonel Sanders

Hard to gauge how much Carberry is sitting on but HF was still almost a length up at the last. I'm not sure Go Native would have gone by tbh.

Still good to see him back. I don't think HF would have been 100% whereas Go Native has had 2 flat runs.

Morgans

Hurricane Fly would have won. Great training effort from Meade to get Go Native in that form. Had he landed running, I think there would have been a length of so in it at the end. Both horses were accelerating, and it would have had to take a Usain Bolt type sprint to pass an accelerating HF.

Those who supported Go Native can feel vindicated, for what that's worth.

Hulk Hands

Shane732 wrote: »

You never know with Carberry what he's got left in the tank. He was certainly well capable of sticking with HF.

HF has guts though as shown by his CH win and his first irish CH at Punchestown. I think HF had him covered. Impressed by Go Native though, I think good ground will be more of a help to him. I'm inclined to think his CH run was just a bad one, as he won the Supreme the year before. Certainly wouldn't rule him out, and will back him against Rock on Ruby and Binocular over xmas provided he gets there and the price is right

Colonel Sanders

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