Sugar tax in next month's Budget

davet82

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/budget/sugar-tax-on-soft-drinks-on-the-way-in-next-months-budget-3291875.html

SOFT drinks could be hit with a Budget "sugar tax" – to raise revenue and curb obesity.

These drinks are already subject to a 23pc VAT rate, and the new tax is expected to be in the form of a 10pc hike in excise duty.

It means soft drink prices could rise by up to 20c a bottle.

I think this is a great idea, it will work the same way it has stopped people drinking alcohol and smoking :rolleyes:

Korvanica

Lol, this year it'll be queues of people in tesco buying coke instead of queues of people buying petrol...

R0ot

They don't tax things exclusively unless they make money from it.

bizmark

For the children no doubt

StudentDad

Sugar tax? Bloody fantastic - not! It's hard enough to find drinks without plastic additives in place of sugar as it is.

SD

MagicSean

What about diet and zero drinks?

davet82

MagicSean wrote: »

What about diet and zero drinks?

now its a fizzy tax thanks to you! :P

FearDark

Nanny state strikes again.

****ing joke country

Yakult

Heard it on the radio this morning, obesity in children n'all that... So the bright minds in office decide making it more expensive is the solution, like how they tackle most problems. To me it sounds beyond desperate from those fools and really theirs many more ways to try and counter act obesity in kids, but guess what? They wouldn't make any money so they couldn't really give a ****. Cowards. Atleast come out and say you want to bring in more money to pay the rich like you are trying to do.

jimmycrackcorm

Thankfully there's no sugar in beer.

bizmark

Only way this is to fight obesity in children or adults is if every cent is invested in the likes of school sports programs and walking/cycleing paths .....Guess what you can be sure wont be happening with the money

Dodge

"First you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women"

Typical Irish politicians doing it arseways

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_e_QRSvPmeZA/TOTd6bhHy8I/AAAAAAAAAXE/V6l3PMlT22M/s1600/sugar+pile.jpg

ted1

MagicSean wrote: »

What about diet and zero drinks?

There just as bad, your body treats The sugar replacmwnts as if they were sugar.

SEPT 23 1989

Willy Wonka won't like this

IvySlayer

I predicted this :P

Zamboni

I'll take a sugar tax over a fat tax any day.

krudler

fcuk sake, whats next, chip tax? pizza tax? to help curve obesity my arse.

MagicSean

ted1 wrote: »

There just as bad, your body treats The sugar replacmwnts as if they were sugar.

In what way exactly?

ted1

Stores them as fat

Gummy Panda

Didn't Denmark just revoke their fat tax and cancelled plans for sugar tax?

IvySlayer

If I put sugar in my tea do I have to pay tax?

gobnaitolunacy

Interesting that they're getting concerned about our well-being all of a sudden.

Call it what is it is, a bailout tax.

davet82

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Didn't Denmark just revoke their fat tax and cancelled plans for sugar tax?

they sure did...

But Denmark is to scrap the fat tax it introduced a little over a year ago – a world first.

The Danish government said it was costly and failed to change people's eating habits.

The Danish Tax Ministry said in a statement: "The fat tax and the extension of the chocolate tax – the so-called sugar tax – has been criticised for increasing prices for the public, increasing companies' administrative costs and putting Danish jobs at risk.

"At the same time it is believed that the fat tax has, to a lesser extent, contributed to Danes travelling across the border to make purchases.

"Against this background, the government and the (far-left) Red Green Party have agreed to abolish the fat tax and cancel the planned sugar tax."

SEPT 23 1989

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Didn't Denmark just revoke their fat tax and cancelled plans for sugar tax?

Yes because the locals were going to Germany to buy their junk

IvySlayer

Mmmmmmmmmmmm.....Danish......

Where To

I'm glad to see a sugar tax, and so is my tooth.

Duggy747

Yes, instead of raising awareness and mentality towards our diet let's just tax everything.

Marvellous, stupendous, inspirational idea.

It's as much about the kids as Jimmy Saville's goodwill was.

Gummy Panda

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Yes because the locals were going to Germany to buy their junk

TO NORTHERN IRELAND!

krudler

CreepingDeath

This is an anti-"designated driver" tax.

5dolla12

Dont really see the issue with this tax. Govt needs to raise revenue somehow. At least by putting it on something like fizzy drinks it allows people the option of avoiding the tax by simply not buying fizzy drinks. I would only have a coke or something every now and again, and while it will be a bt annoying to see the price increase, i'd rather have the choice of avoiding it than see this passed on through some new compulsory tax.

Obviously the budget will probably see some increases in compulsory taxes anyway, but at least this will be a very small portion that wont be passed on compulsorily and I can choose to avoid.

CardBordWindow

All those sweet shops that keep popping up in town are DOOMED!!

recyclebin

Will this mean an end to the sugar daddy?

Shryke

5dolla12 wrote: »

Dont really see the issue with this tax. Govt needs to raise revenue somehow. At least by putting it on something like fizzy drinks it allows people the option of avoiding the tax by simply not buying fizzy drinks. I would only have a coke or something every now and again, and while it will be a bt annoying to see the price increase, i'd rather have the choice of avoiding it than see this passed on through some new compulsory tax.

Obviously the budget will probably see some increases in compulsory taxes anyway, but at least this will be a very small portion that wont be passed on compulsorily and I can choose to avoid.

You quite like a mild ****ing up the arse is what you're saying.

fishy fishy

ted1 wrote: »

Stores them as fat

same with carbohydrates.
maybe they will have a carb tax,
and a fruit tax - loads of sugar in fruit.
and a "white" bread tax :rolleyes:

LeinsterDub

ted1 wrote: »

Stores them as fat

No it doesn't

sillysmiles

Duggy747 wrote: »

Yes, instead of raising awareness and mentality towards our diet ......................

Do you really think that people still need this?
If people are too stupid to see the fizzy drinks - diet or otherwise - are bad for you then it is really just a stupidity tax.
If you consume fizzy drinks occasionally then a tax increase is not going to affect you.
However, if you are guzzling liters of it then I say pay away - its going to be paying for the health services, obesity clinics and counseling you will need in the future because you were too thick to eat properly.

SEPT 23 1989

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i56xzNLvQDQ

Cienciano

So the prices of softdrinks in pubs will now be 3 times the price of beer.

MagicSean

ted1 wrote: »

Stores them as fat

Stores what? There is no calories in it. They are carbonated water with flavouring.

CreepingDeath wrote: »

This is an anti-"designated driver" tax.

That's all on the pubs. You can buy a 2 litre bottle of coke for under €2 yet they charge close to €3 for a glass. Nothing to do with tax

ted1

ted1 wrote: »

There just as bad, your body treats The sugar replacmwnts as if they were sugar.

But the diet drinks have no carbs, the high carb content in fizzy drinks is one of the reasons people who drink a lot of them are fat especially when they are consumed on top of an already poor diet and low levels of exercise.

doyle61

theres going to be a new meaning to smuggling coke soon enough :P:P

JustAddWater

sillysmiles wrote: »

Do you really think that people still need this?
If people are too stupid to see the fizzy drinks - diet or otherwise - are bad for you then it is really just a stupidity tax.
If you consume fizzy drinks occasionally then a tax increase is not going to affect you.
However, if you are guzzling liters of it then I say pay away - its going to be paying for the health services, obesity clinics and counseling you will need in the future because you were too thick to eat properly.

I counter propose a high-horse tax!

Akrasia

ted1 wrote: »

There just as bad, your body treats The sugar replacmwnts as if they were sugar.

Any evidence for this from a reputable source?

sillysmiles

Also on the - are diet drinks bad questions -

Taken from "Diabetes Care" http://care.diabetesjournals.org/

A study (http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/32/4/688.full) had this conclusion -

CONCLUSIONS Although these observational data cannot establish causality, consumption of diet soda at least daily was associated with significantly greater risks of select incident metabolic syndrome components and type 2 diabetes.

sillysmiles

Then there is also this website http://www.thedailygreen.com/healthy-eating/latest/soda-research-health-effects
But I haven't looked through the links yet to see which studies they cite.

Zillah

StudentDad wrote: »

Sugar tax? Bloody fantastic - not! It's hard enough to find drinks without plastic additives in place of sugar as it is.

SD

No one, really? Ok, I'll be the guy.

What plastic additives are in your drinks?

OurLadyofKnock

davet82 wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/budget/sugar-tax-on-soft-drinks-on-the-way-in-next-months-budget-3291875.html



I think this is a great idea, it will work the same way it has stopped people drinking alcohol and smoking :rolleyes:

Most soft drinks do not have sugar. They have artificial sweetners like aspartame.

Just when you think they can not get anymore insane they out do themselves.

SOAP TAX next at this rate.

Seaneh

ted1 wrote: »

Stores them as fat

How the hell can it store something with no claories as fat?

You do realise that you haven't a clue what you are taking about, don't you?

Who told you that nonsense? Slap them, immediately.

dizzywizlw

3c Tax on Texts 10% tax on all products over X sugar/saturated fat content


BILLIONS

YFlyer

ted1 wrote: »

There just as bad, your body treats The sugar replacmwnts as if they were sugar.

Somebody should email Tim Noakes