HELP Frozen scope!!!

blackwater1987

Right was out last nite for a few foxes with my .243 got two before the rain started to get heavy so decided to head home fairly soaked when i got home i wiped down the rifle and put it away but when i went to it this morning i found that the magnification ring was frozen its a swift premier 30mm 2.5-10x50.Its still holding zero and all windage height adjustments still work as well as the illuminated recticle. so any idea what to do now to fix it?

Zxthinger

blackwater1987 wrote: »

Right was out last nite for a few foxes with my .243 got two before the rain started to get heavy so decided to head home fairly soaked when i got home i wiped down the rifle and put it away but when i went to it this morning i found that the magnification ring was frozen its a swift premier 30mm 2.5-10x50.Its still holding zero and all windage height adjustments still work as well as the illuminated recticle. so any idea what to do now to fix it?

Check to see if scope is bent! Look at the entire lenght of the scope! Some times a knock on a eye piece can cause the housing to bend and thereby pinch the slot which is machined in the scope body. The screw/stud that goes through the mag selector ring and into the helical slot in the variable workings in the scope is now pinched by the deformed scope body.
This happened to a second hand scope I bought I just used gentle force to straighten the scope and it work great again! Still have it.

Sometimes a bit of dirt can cause problems but it is more likely that its a broken screw/stud which can jam the mechanism fast. I had this happen too:-the screw/stud bent due either to over stiffness of the variable mag rig due to cold weather and stiff grease or a combination of this with dust. Anyway the stud bent and Jammed in the helical track! I forced it and it sheared so I replaced but the repair has worked since!!


If you try opening up you scope you going to leak nitrogen and invalidate any warranty you might have. So think carefully before you act.
The screw sizes are a PITA to obtain and it can be a pain waiting for delivery and finding that it is not a perfect fit as they are not fully threaded so I hope yer good with file

It might be possible to attempt a repair or investigation with helium from cheap balloons and an upside down old fish tank!

meathstevie

Swift scopes are sort of the higher end of mid market as far as I know and don't come cheap so my suggestion would be to have it looked at by a professional. If it's still working fine and you're happy enough with the magnification it's set at you can still leave it till the time of year you use it least.

blackwater1987

thanks for the replies was onto swift and they told me the european distributor has stopped trading sine 2010 and they cannot help me due to restrictions over in the states due to 9/11 so my lifetime guarantee isnt worth the paper its written on!!! Its stuck on x7 so i will jus wait till the deer season is over and have a go at fixing it then thanks again

Grizzly 45

Or just live with it on the 7 power setting.Lots of "pros" in LE and military do this, find the best picture and leave it on that setting and zero it on that.Apprently the zoom setting can influence the shot placement???

blackwater1987

turns out zxthinger was right and with a little bit of gentle force i got it back its not perfect but i am going to leave it on x10 for the remainder of the season .thanks for all the help lads

FISMA

blackwater1987 wrote: »

thanks for the replies was onto swift and they told me the european distributor has stopped trading sine 2010 and they cannot help me due to restrictions over in the states due to 9/11 so my lifetime guarantee isnt worth the paper its written on!!! Its stuck on x7 so i will jus wait till the deer season is over and have a go at fixing it then thanks again

Blackwater,
Does the scope need to go back? Or are you sussed out?

That's convenient for Swift, isn't it. I wonder if anyone has had similar problems with warranties for Leupold, Burris, or other manufacturers.

lb1981

try milbro it seems they are the importers for them in Ireland

cookimonster

FISMA wrote: »

Blackwater,
Does the scope need to go back? Or are you sussed out?

That's convenient for Swift, isn't it. I wonder if anyone has had similar problems with warranties for Leupold, Burris, or other manufacturers.

Had same problem with other so called 'life time warranties' from USA, small print usually states 'not valid outside of USA'.

FISMA

cookimonster wrote: »

Had same problem with other so called 'life time warranties' from USA, small print usually states 'not valid outside of USA'.

Who was it?

cookimonster

Not shooting related, headphones belonging to son with a so called lifetime warranty splashed all over box, leaflet etc, when you go on web site you find out it's only applicable to US purchases. I get a few magazines from the US and if you check the small print you'll see the full warranty can become a limited one in other countries.

Cass

FISMA wrote: »

I wonder if anyone has had similar problems with warranties for Leupold, Burris, or other manufacturers.

Burris.

Elevation turret screwed straight out of the scope one day after i bought a brand new Fullfiled II.

• Was first told "this is normal".
• Then i was told it can be replaced under their immediate exchange scheme.
• Then told that's not possible, so i can have another model.
• Then told that's not possible as they don't have a suitable model in the same price range or spec.
• Then told i'd get a refund which took 2 months to get.

The dealer was as useful as a chocolate fireguard during this whole process which resulted in me having to pay to have the scope shipped back to the main distributor in the UK myself, ringing Burris myself, and then waiting a total of 19 weeks to have it resolved.

meathstevie

Ezridax wrote: »

Burris.

Elevation turret screwed straight out of the scope one day after i bought a brand new Fullfiled II.

• Was first told "this is normal".
• Then i was told it can be replaced under their immediate exchange scheme.
• Then told that's not possible, so i can have another model.
• Then told that's not possible as they don't have a suitable model in the same price range or spec.
• Then told i'd get a refund which took 2 months to get.

The dealer was as useful as a chocolate fireguard during this whole process which resulted in me having to pay to have the scope shipped back to the main distributor in the UK myself, ringing Burris myself, and then waiting a total of 19 weeks to have it resolved.

And that's why if it had taken your fancy that the small claims court exists.

Cass

I had considered that, but the annoying part was i know the dealer for some time, and the lad that owns the shop, at no time did anyone say "No". The issue was a calamity of disinterested people dragging their heels.

Everytime i was going to take it further i would get another step forward, and have to wait.


Either way i haven't stepped foot back into the dealers (considering he done a silly thing too which i won't go into here), and just to clarify that Burris with their "We'll immediately exchange/refund you" warranty isn't worth a crap. At least not for me it wasn't.

blackwater1987

FISMA wrote: »

Blackwater,
Does the scope need to go back? Or are you sussed out?

That's convenient for Swift, isn't it. I wonder if anyone has had similar problems with warranties for Leupold, Burris, or other manufacturers.

It needs to be fixed still but ive no spare set up and after reading some horror stories regarding getting any satisfaction with a guarantee i think ill just stick with it the way it is. until the end of the season at least

FISMA

Ezridax wrote: »

Burris.

Elevation turret screwed straight out of the scope one day after i bought a brand new Fullfiled II.

• Was first told "this is normal".
• Then i was told it can be replaced under their immediate exchange scheme.
• Then told that's not possible, so i can have another model.
• Then told that's not possible as they don't have a suitable model in the same price range or spec.
• Then told i'd get a refund which took 2 months to get

The dealer was as useful as a chocolate fireguard during this whole process which resulted in me having to pay to have the scope shipped back to the main distributor in the UK myself, ringing Burris myself, and then waiting a total of 19 weeks to have it resolved.

Ez,
How much of this nightmare was Burris' fault as opposed to the dealer?

I have never had to return a Fullfield and have half a dozen of them in the case. Whenever I lose a cap or need a new allen bolt, there always fast to respond.

As for a turret screwing out on a new scope, she'd be returned immediately to Cabelas, Natchezess, or the like and a new one sent immediately. Was the scope in shrink wrap? Could the dealer have flogged off one that wasn't right?

Pity, as in the States the Burris Fullfield II is one of the most likely scopes to be on your hunting rifle, which is most likely to be a Remington 700!

What size scope was she? Ballistic plex reticle?

Cass

FISMA wrote: »

Ez,
How much of this nightmare was Burris' fault as opposed to the dealer?

It's about 50-50 in the blame game, but i'd give Burris more credit for trying to help out whereas the dealer was simply ignorant, awkward, stubborn, threatening, and as useful as a a one legged man in an ass kicking contest.

I ordered the scope through the dealer. He had to order it from his distributor in the North, who got it off the main burris dealer in the UK. When i spoke to the Burris rep (not sure if i can say his name), and he had exhausted all options i ended up having to return the scope. When i contacted the dealer he reneged on his offer of a refund, and demanded i seek replacement. When i asked how long he said he would deal with when he was good and ready. So i paid for the scope to be shipp[ed back to the distributor in the North, who shipped it to the Dealer in the UK. Then the fun began of endless calls.

Eventually the dealer in the UK told the dealer in the North who told the dealer i bought it from that they do not make Fullfield II anymore, and they have not got a suitable replacement in stock, and to issue me my refund.

What size scope was she? Ballistic plex reticle?

6.5-20 with Fine Plex.