Filtering

jameshayes

I got a rimming from a member of the garda this morning because I was filtering (safely)

She has not heard of filtering and kept going on about me being on the wrong side of the road. I let her bash me so I could get on my way.

But when I went to the rules of the road to try find the section that condones it I cant find it? Anyone know where it is?

kaimera

"grey area" I believe as in there's nothing that explicitly prohibits it

jameshayes

kaimera wrote: »

"grey area" I believe as in there's nothing that explicitly prohibits it

There is deffo something because I remember saving it on my computer and emailing it to someone but cant for the life of me remember who to, or what email I even used!

Wossack

tis treated the same as overtaking

jameshayes

gotcha!!! nearly done a fist pump when I found it lol

http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Campaigns/Motorcycle%20Safety/This%20is%20your%20bike.pdf

page 8

Roadskill

jameshayes wrote: »

I got a rimming from a member of the garda this morning because I was filtering (safely)

She has not heard of filtering and kept going on about me being on the wrong side of the road. I let her bash me so I could get on my way.

But when I went to the rules of the road to try find the section that condones it I cant find it? Anyone know where it is?

Its not in it. filtering comes down to reading the conditions around you that are in the ROTR like the lane & road markings, traffic flow, traffic lights, signs etc. If you had plenty of room and it was a broken white line you crossed and not solid then no problem as long as you never forced your way through to the front and stopped over the white line at the front. Only thing is its hard to tell you if you did anything wrong unless I sat behind you at the time. What's ok today could be wrong tomorrow depending on certain things. Btw what you see as filtering safely could be interpreted differently by someone else.
Stay safe

The Don

jameshayes wrote: »

gotcha!!! nearly done a fist pump when I found it lol

http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Campaigns/Motorcycle%20Safety/This%20is%20your%20bike.pdf

page 8

I'm printing that out to take with me.

Cienciano

Garda was being a knob. Obviously don't do it where you're crossing a solid white line.
I never do it when cars are coming towards me, lot of bikers do.

Max Headroom

jameshayes wrote: »

I got a rimming from a member of the garda this morning because I was filtering (safely)

She has not heard of filtering and kept going on about me being on the wrong side of the road. I let her bash me so I could get on my way.

But when I went to the rules of the road to try find the section that condones it I cant find it? Anyone know where it is?

nuff said....:rolleyes:

jameshayes

Max Headroom wrote: »

nuff said....:rolleyes:

had blonde hair too would you believe! If i was a misogynist I would have had a great time giving out about her!

P.C.

Max Headroom wrote: »

nuff said....:rolleyes:

Carry on like that and you will get a ban from the forum.

brian plank

jameshayes wrote: »

had blonde hair too would you believe! If i was a misogynist I would have had a great time giving out about her!

serves you right for riding through the kitchen in the first place.

steveone

filtering is not illegal..its not reccommended but not illegal.
being on the wrong side of the road is...
unless that is the white line is broken, then you have every right to be over it..
filtering I'm not sure is a legal term, I think that moving between traffic is how it's described in the book but its that long since I looked I can't be sure..

I say sorry and move on..normally i find if you don't act the clown they won't treat you like one..maybe she was having a bad day ha

Del2005

jameshayes wrote: »

gotcha!!! nearly done a fist pump when I found it lol

http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Campaigns/Motorcycle%20Safety/This%20is%20your%20bike.pdf

page 8

Checked the RSA site and found this, page 34 mentions filtering as an offence. tl;dr so not sure if they're discussing making it an offence or not. The document I've linked is 2012 while James's is 2009

Cienciano

Del2005 wrote: »

Checked the RSA site and found this, page 34 mentions filtering as an offence. tl;dr so not sure if they're discussing making it an offence or not. The document I've linked is 2012 while James's is 2009

No, they're just using filtering as an example of how different offences could be bike only.

Notch000

quick guide atttached

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzKB1sQ3-nc

copeyhagen

i got knocked off my bike few weeks ago while filtering.

pedestrian crossing about 200 ft ahead, traffic light was red, no oncoming traffic, broken white line, car turned right as i passed without indicating or checking mirrors.

first two guards on the scene said i was in wrong, i said broken white line, way more than the req 50 ft from pedestrian crossing how could i be in wrong. they had no answer.

then a traffic cop on a bike arrived and the first two guards barked at him "the bike was in the wrong, overtook here.."

the traffic cop then calmly explained to the two know it alls that i was 'perfectly within my right' to overtake where i did. he said he personally wouldnt as he doesnt trust cars if there is a right hand turn ahead (the right hand turn was into a carpark)

so be careful lads when filtering, just cuz some 80 year old isnt indicating or looking, doesnt mean he isnt turning, or planning to swerve into a carpark at the last minute!

kaimera

Notch000 wrote: »

quick guide atttached

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzKB1sQ3-nc

my renthal bars make it impossibru for me to filter at speed like that.

Could on the SV, worst was just clipping mirror to mirror but the feckin' renthals are more further out!

Hotblack Desiato

There do seem to be rather a lot of stories about bikers in the Dublin area being hassled by a blonde female Garda. If these stories all refer to the same person it seems she's more than a bit of a chip on her shoulder.

Topper Harley

Notch000 wrote: »

quick guide atttached

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzKB1sQ3-nc

Ah yes, the oul wheelie into oncoming traffic @1:58. Not part of my repertoire...just yet. And it seems like that guy is aiming for the smallest gap every time.

faceman

ninja900 wrote: »

There do seem to be rather a lot of stories about bikers in the Dublin area being hassled by a blonde

Some men have all the luck! :PAC:

If filtering was illegal and enforced no one would use their bike to commute.

There was a court case many years ago where something similar to here, biker filtering and car does unannounced U turn

It went to court, the driver adamant the biker was in the wrong. The judge was quoted on saying something along the lines of the biker didn't buy a bike to sit in traffic

Cienciano

faceman wrote: »

Some men have all the luck! :PAC:

If filtering was illegal and enforced no one would use their bike to commute.

There was a court case many years ago where something similar to here, biker filtering and car does unannounced U turn

It went to court, the driver adamant the biker was in the wrong. The judge was quoted on saying something along the lines of the biker didn't buy a bike to sit in traffic

If you use biker.ie the auld u-turn is a fairly common way to get hit, similar to copeyhagens guy doing a right hander.
The whole "anticipate the hazzard and adjust your riding style", or "pretend every driver is out to get you" mantras people think sound good really worth a shíte in the real world when someone you're driving alongside just turns into you.
You can be 5 seconds more behind him or ahead of him and you'll be grand, but if decides to do his turn just at the wrong time, you're screwed.

copeyhagen

+1 for above. the traffic cop on the bike actually said about 90% of accidents involving motorcycles he has seen were cars turning right without indicating / checking mirrors

Roadskill

The best way is to keep an eye on the front wheels as you pass. Everyone has to steer to pull out on you. Even so I have still had the bike hit on the panniers by one twat as I was sat just ahead of him. You can never anticipate everything no matter how good you are or how aware you are.

Cienciano

Pedesterians are another to look out for. If you're passing a line of cars you can see, but as you go past a bus/van/truck a pedesterian might be coming out, looking to their left thinking nothing is coming.
Or of course someone letting someone out. If there's a gap between the traffic, slow down. Could be a house, car park or anything in on the left and the car you're passing is letting someone out. Again, they'll just be looking to their left.

YCHGTBOY

PMS could also be a legitimate reason? check out the symptoms http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002474/