Motor tax rates changing?

whatlliwear

Does anyone know if they are going to be changed in the budget?
If I renew mine for 3 months could I be stuck paying a lot more after the budget.....

MugMugs

whatlliwear wrote: »

Does anyone know if they are going to be changed in the budget?
If I renew mine for 3 months could I be stuck paying a lot more after the budget.....

Probably and most likely.
It's speculated that co2 rates will take the brunt of it....

bazz26

Of course there changing, they are only going one way from now on. My advice is renew for 12 months now if you can.

GE90

I was watching a program following the traffic police in the UK, you know the type. They pulled over a porsche cayenne, on examining the tax disk the officer is astonished to see how much the tax is wait for it ........ £450 he jokes with the other officer saying how many better things he would spend £450 on.

Even given the exchange rate it would cost the same to tax a 1.6 in Ireland.

It seams if you want to own a nice car in ireland you have to pay true your teeth for the privilege.

Stheno

I'm doing my nct early so I can then tax my car for a year before the budget

If you've a post 2008 car it's advisable.

cabb8ge

NCT not a requirment to motor tax a car. DOE is requirment to tax commercial.

larchill

Expect the CO2 bands to change. 80% of everything is down in band A & B. These will be adjusted to place more cars in bands C, D & above. Ther're almost certainly be an increase in the rate (€) in each band too.

Stheno

cabb8ge wrote: »

NCT not a requirment to motor tax a car. DOE is requirment to tax commercial.

I didn't say it was, but you are asked for your NCT cert number and expiry date of the cert when you go to renew your tax.

I like to be able to fill out the form with details confirming the car is NCTed rather than having them getting bolshy with me if I go in in person.

As my car is almost 13 years old I don't want to pay a years tax then have it NCTed and discover some catastrophe issue with it.

I don't believe there is such an issue, but want to avoid that happening and having to then get a refund

CiniO

Stheno wrote: »

I didn't say it was, but you are asked for your NCT cert number and expiry date of the cert when you go to renew your tax.

I like to be able to fill out the form with details confirming the car is NCTed rather than having them getting bolshy with me if I go in in person.

No you are not asked for NCT.
Neither anywhere on the form you don't have to fill in any NCT details.

NCT is compeltely irrelevant for motor tax.

Stheno

Must be the evil biddies in my Motor tax office so, they always look for NCT if you don't have it.

Shall ignore so.

cabb8ge

Well if I you I tell them to refer to form RF100A, copy and paster here for explain "C3 Section 3 - A Certificate of roadworthiness (CRW) is required for:
• Goods Vehicles, Trailers, Buses or Ambulances over one year old must be tested every year.
• Design Gross Vehicle Weight (DGVW) is the basis for determining vehicle classification for vehicle testing purposes.
• Goods Vehicles having (DGVW) of 3,500kg or lower to be tested as a Light Goods Vehicle (LGV) - CRW fee g6.
• Goods Vehicles having (DGVW) exceeding 3,500kg to be tested as a Heavy Goods Vehicle (HV) - CRW fee g13
If you do not have a current CRW, you must include a Pass Statement issued by an Authorised Tester, together with the appropriate fee with this
application and a CRW will be issued to you."

That not NCT.

Why not tax online, no reason to perform early NCT, can avoid these "biddies" whatever they are.

Stheno

cabb8ge wrote: »

Well if I you I tell them to refer to form RF100A, copy and paster here for explain "C3 Section 3 - A Certificate of roadworthiness (CRW) is required for:
• Goods Vehicles, Trailers, Buses or Ambulances over one year old must be tested every year.
• Design Gross Vehicle Weight (DGVW) is the basis for determining vehicle classification for vehicle testing purposes.
• Goods Vehicles having (DGVW) of 3,500kg or lower to be tested as a Light Goods Vehicle (LGV) - CRW fee g6.
• Goods Vehicles having (DGVW) exceeding 3,500kg to be tested as a Heavy Goods Vehicle (HV) - CRW fee g13
If you do not have a current CRW, you must include a Pass Statement issued by an Authorised Tester, together with the appropriate fee with this
application and a CRW will be issued to you."

That not NCT.

Yet I've had the people in the tax office ask for it

Next time I'll point that out!

Or just renew online

Supergurrier

Tax system here is flawed anyway, big engined car does 5k miles a year and pays 5-10 times what a diesel reps car on new system would do while doing 50k+ a year, who is polluting more tbh.

Smacks of hypocrasy

cabb8ge

There is carbon tax as part of price of petrol/diesel I do believe

Supergurrier

cabb8ge wrote: »

There is carbon tax as part of price of petrol/diesel I do believe

Thats not carbon tax loaded it's a duty nothing more tbh and it's in or around the 70% mark if im not mistaken

cabb8ge

I not understand your post, that aside there is 60c on litre of petrol and approx 50c on litre of diesel in Ireland, that carbon tax.
So the 50k mile rep pays lots of carbon tax.

Supergurrier

It's not a carbon tax it's a duty on the fuel same as on cigarettes and alcohol tbh, carbon is just the new buzz word

cabb8ge

Well the 50k mile motorist pays lots of it, call it what you will. What high tax car you drive? Were rate not same when you bought car?

Stheno

Supergurrier wrote: »

Thats not carbon tax loaded it's a duty nothing more tbh and it's in or around the 70% mark if im not mistaken

If they could only include car tax, carbon tax, duty etc in petrol price I honestly think it would be far more equitable.

And imagine the savings not having to staff the motor tax offices?

Supergurrier

cabb8ge wrote: »

Well the 50k mile motorist pays lots of it, call it what you will. What high tax car you drive? Were rate not same when you bought car?

What i drive has nothing to do with it, our system is flawed and we are just being taxed twice for the sake of it, atleast if it was all done through fuel it would be,

1. Less hassle
2. Owning more than one car would be more viable. Daily driver/Weekend car.
3. The CO2 aspect would be self governing as thirstier cars would use more fuel and hence more tax.
4. More revenue would be made overall and it would actively encourage people to drive less/buy cars lighter on fuel rather than just drive a diesel which although more efficient is a dirtier fuel.

etc etc

cabb8ge

Well I guess you not a rep doing 50k miles given your point.

alias no.9

cabb8ge wrote: »

I not understand your post, that aside there is 60c on litre of petrol and approx 50c on litre of diesel in Ireland, that carbon tax.
So the 50k mile rep pays lots of carbon tax.

There is more carbon in a litre of diesel than in a litre of petrol, so anything purporting to be a carbon tax has to be levied at a higher rate on diesel than petrol to be credible. As it happens the carbon tax, as opposed to the duty, is higher on diesel.

Supergurrier

cabb8ge wrote: »

Well I guess you not a rep doing 50k miles given your point.

What i am is not the point, the flawed system is what we are discussing here.

I thought the point of the current system is to tax the users on the basis of emissions, when it clearly isn't the case.

cabb8ge

Motor tax rates from 2008 based on emissions. That clearly the case. Drive a big amount and use a big amount of fuel, if car is low emissions in most cases use less fuel than high emission car so the fuel used proportional to emissions.