Fringe S05E05 [US] **Spoilers!**

Redisle

Very good episode again today, not quite as good as last week but a fantastic buildup for things to come. Should be interesting to see how much the tech has to do with the observers lack of emotion and what abilities it actually provides!

The episode title is also interesting, "An Origin Story". The origin of what I wonder? A monster named Peter?

I'm just surprised that Peter hasn't thought to try and get September back by locating his beacon under the house where he activated it before!

The Black Oil

Yep, another good episode. Re the Etta 'resist' posters, were they up before Olivia saw them, or did they appear out of nowhere? Once they collapsed the wormhole, and the new one opened up, those posters seemed to just exist where they weren’t there previously. Maybe some sort of time shift?

Stand out scene between Walter and Olivia.

Next week's looks

half Matrix/Inceptiony

FreudianSlippers

Yeah, I thought something was weird about the posters too.

As for the episode, I thought it was solid but a tiny bit boring. That ending was epic though.

Mr E

What if the plan to get rid of the observers involves zapping those implants? That wouldn't bode well for Peter.

Really good episode, though.

Who's the captured observer actor? looks familiar

Axwell

bluewolf wrote: »

Who's the captured observer actor? looks familiar

John Prosky

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0698763/

The Black Oil

Anyone else think that Peter was going to pull a Heisenberg and shave his hair off at the end? :pac:

The Black Oil

The Black Oil wrote: »

Anyone else think that Peter was going to pull a Heisenberg and shave his hair off at the end? :pac:

I was expecting it to fall out in front of us! I was sure it was the tech making them all hairless

Antar Bolaeisk

The Black Oil wrote: »

Yep, another good episode. Re the Etta 'resist' posters, were they up before Olivia saw them, or did they appear out of nowhere? Once they collapsed the wormhole, and the new one opened up, those posters seemed to just exist where they weren’t there previously. Maybe some sort of time shift?

I think it was a combination of the way the were positioned and the way the scenes were shot. They shouldn't have been visible when the van was pulling away as they were facing the wrong direction and the camera was constantly facing right when focusing on Olivia until she noticed them.

bluewolf wrote: »

I was expecting it to fall out in front of us! I was sure it was the tech making them all hairless

I was expecting the same as well!

gloobag

So, anyone else thinking that Peter is in fact the first Observer? Kinda makes a lot of sense to me, given the title of the episode, and a few other things.

I was wondering if that was why the daughter was so important to be born because if she hadn't been he wouldn't have gone crazy and turned himself into an observer or something in the first place...

The Black Oil

What were the books (Sam Weiss had a connection to?) from a while back, season 3 ish - The First People, or am I making that up?

Here's the promo for this episode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyKnB-dGQKk

AB, any Fringe events in Donegal?

expectationlost

i was about to give up on this series, expecting another episode of them moping, but that was fantastic.

Antar Bolaeisk

The Black Oil wrote: »

AB, any Fringe events in Donegal?

Sadly not, might spice things up a bit around here as it gets incredibly dull during the winter.

stevenmu

Great episode again. Did anyone else think that Peter is starting to sound more and more like Walter?

tvnutz

I wonder will Walter's plan to kill all the Observers involves destorying the tech in their heads, as we saw, removing the tech kills them, and now that Peter has one in his head, will they have to sacrifice him to kill the rest.

FreudianSlippers

gloobag wrote: »

So, anyone else thinking that Peter is in fact the first Observer? Kinda makes a lot of sense to me, given the title of the episode, and a few other things.

You just blew my mind.

expectationlost

so the mistake peter made with the wormhole sabotage plan was adding the blue liquid element to the box, one of the observers said how did the wormhole appear i havn't added the stabilisation device yet while he had the blue element in his hand? so that means peter added the thing that revented the blackhole.

or the stabilisation device mean simply something that creates the wormholes?

stevenmu

I've been assuming that the black hole worked, but that the observers come from either a number of different universes or a number of different time lines. So another group was able to just carry on.

gnfnrhead

stevenmu wrote: »

I've been assuming that the black hole worked, but that the observers come from either a number of different universes or a number of different time lines. So another group was able to just carry on.

That's what I was thinking too. An earlier or later time was sending the stuff back. Either before it happened, or after they rebuilt. They (cant remember who) said they shouldn't have been able to rebuild that quickly so it could be even further into the future.

FreudianSlippers

gnfnrhead wrote: »

That's what I was thinking too. An earlier or later time was sending the stuff back. Either before it happened, or after they rebuilt. They (cant remember who) said they shouldn't have been able to rebuild that quickly so it could be even further into the future.

Exactly. It could have taken the observers hundreds of years to repair their side of the wormhole, but when they 'dial back' they go to a minute later in the past

Xaniaj

gloobag wrote: »

So, anyone else thinking that Peter is in fact the first Observer? Kinda makes a lot of sense to me, given the title of the episode, and a few other things.

I was thinking the exact same thing watching the episode and the episode name only adds to that theory. I have a feeling we'll have a speech from Peter some time in the future as to why not feeling any emotions is actually better...

Tom.D.BJJ

Xaniaj wrote: »

I was thinking the exact same thing watching the episode and the episode name only adds to that theory. I have a feeling we'll have a speech from Peter some time in the future as to why not feeling any emotions is actually better...

I think the recorders from an earlier episode eventually become the observers.

gloobag

Tom.D.BJJ wrote: »

I think the recorders from an earlier episode eventually become the observers.

It's possible I guess, but they became the recorders of history as a result of the Observer invasion. Which would be a bit of a paradox, would it not?

You could say the same about Peter, but he did survive being erased from existence, which would imply he somehow exists outside of normal space/time or has some sort of control over it. Which is very similar to the Observers themselves...

I was thinking a little bit about this theory after the episode;

All the Observers pretty much look the same (albeit with slight variations, but you know what I mean), and all of them are male (as far as I know). Which would suggest they may all be from the same small gene pool. Evolved genetic offspring/clones of Peter maybe?