NYC Marathon Cancelled

ecoli

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57544624/nyc-marathon-canceled-amid-outcry/

Can understand this but kinda shocked it wasn't done earlier I mean two days before after only yesterday coming out saying it would be held

Tom Joad

Can fully understand why it was cancelled but shouldn't have left it so late. Was reading a training log the other evening here where someone was running it - sorry can't recall who it was but I hope they haven't left yet..

woodchopper

Tom Joad wrote: »

Can fully understand why it was cancelled but shouldn't have left it so late. Was reading a training log the other evening here where someone was running it - sorry can't recall who it was but I hope they haven't left yet..

Ridiculous is the only word. It should have been off from the very start. It would have saved a lot of hassle. Martin had to travel for nearly 2 days and now there is no race.

Larry Brent

Typing from New York. Was hoping they'd cancel it early in the week. Even found myself a handy replacement marathon on the same day. Then when they said it was going ahead and I couldn't get accomm refund I headed to airport not expecting to get there. Couldn't believe it when my plane took off. Got number in expo today, got in the mood....and now I hear it's cancelled!!! Whittenburg crying on the telly now. Annoying to hear it's not due to resource issues but due to the negative vibes. Ah well, New York not the worst place to be for a few days. Once they don't try and charge us again next year!

Dundalk

They shouldn't have left it so late. Not fair on so many people. I have a guaranteed entry for next year, do you think it will be put back a year?

Larry Brent

Dundalk wrote: »

They shouldn't have left it so late. Not fair on so many people. I have a guaranteed entry for next year, do you think it will be put back a year?

Mary W just said at the press conf, that everyone who was to run this year is guaranteed entry for next year so 'it will be a lot harder to gain entry next year and it will affect the draw'.

Spoke to a few people who are raging after spending a fortune on NYC 2012 marathon gear. Others who paid for 2 flights and 2 hotels as first options were cancelled/shut due to loss of power or flooding.

ecoli

Also interesting to see how it will effect the WMM. Will Tokyo replace it as last race for this series?

Pisco Sour

I assume they will give the option of a refund to those who wish not to run it next year?

Larry Brent

Pisco Sour wrote: »

I assume they will give the option of a refund to those who wish not to run it next year?

Don't know.

Had someone cancelled Wednesday because the airport was closed and their hotel was flooded and on fire they would have been guaranteed entry next year....but they would have had to pay again in full.

Not sure what they'll do now. I imagine they'll insist on people paying again but fingers crossed I'm wrong. Very much doubt there'd be a refund offered, just another chance to run next year in the half or the full. I'd say they'll pull out all stops to try and get this year's people to do the half, get that we'll established. They've also mentioned in the past running the marathon on the Saturday and the Sunday so they could cater for 100,000 runners, so maybe 2013 a good year to start that considering the cancellation.

There was talk of protesters planning to form human chains and throwing eggs at runners. Was quite excited by it all. Now talk has turned to a flash mob meeting at the 59th street bridge to race the last 10m of the course. Wonder will Moses turn up?

woodchopper

Larry Brent wrote: »

Don't know.

Wonder will Moses turn up?

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I know Martin and Wilson will!

Pisco Sour

Larry Brent wrote: »

Don't know.

Had someone cancelled Wednesday because the airport was closed and their hotel was flooded and on fire they would have been guaranteed entry next year....but they would have had to pay again in full.

Not sure what they'll do now. I imagine they'll insist on people paying again but fingers crossed I'm wrong. Very much doubt there'd be a refund offered, just another chance to run next year in the half or the full. I'd say they'll pull out all stops to try and get this year's people to do the half, get that we'll established. They've also mentioned in the past running the marathon on the Saturday and the Sunday so they could cater for 100,000 runners, so maybe 2013 a good year to start that considering the cancellation.

There was talk of protesters planning to form human chains and throwing eggs at runners. Was quite excited by it all. Now talk has turned to a flash mob meeting at the 59th street bridge to race the last 10m of the course. Wonder will Moses turn up?

If they make people pay again next year for their entry fee then it is an absolute disgrace. Can they really just run away with everyone's money just like that and then charge them again the next year? Seriously do Tokyo instead. Japan is a country which isn't keen on squeezing you for every last dollar/euro/pound/yen that you have!

woodchopper

Pisco Sour wrote: »

If they make people pay again next year for their entry fee then it is an absolute disgrace. Can they really just run away with everyone's money just like that and then charge them again the next year? Seriously do Tokyo instead. Japan is a country which isn't keen on squeezing you for every last dollar/euro/pound/yen that you have!

What about Charville? Good tough course like New York with some challenging rolling terrain. Pretty good atmosphere in the city as well!

Larry Brent

Pisco Sour wrote: »

If they make people pay again next year for their entry fee then it is an absolute disgrace.

I agree. The line 'the money is already spent' gets bandied about, hence a strict no refund policy (maybe they will allow an exception in this case). That line of course doesn't take into account their profits or reserves. They donated 1million to the relief fund yesterday, so they clearly have reserves. I wonder if they are quietly regretting that donation now!

ecoli

Surely that can't be used as I assume they would have insurance against cancellation.

Wittenburgs press conference:

http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/249877-2012-ING-New-York-City-Marathon/video/660651-Mary-Wittenberg-message-to-Elite-Athletes-who-came-to-run-the-marathon?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

my friend

last official count 41 dead in NYC, almost half on Staten Island and self centred posters here are griping about the Marathon being cancelled?

get over yourselves, show some respect.

nice to know our 'ambassadors' are still displaying their 'septic tiger entitled anger'....

CBS News correspondent Michelle Miller spoke to a group of Irish runners who were extremely angry.....
.........Some runners at the New Yorker Hotel in midtown -- just above the blackout zone caused by the superstorm -- were in the lobby crying when they learned the race was off. One person was curled up on a couch, sobbing.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57544624/nyc-marathon-canceled-amid-outcry-over-priorities/

meanwhile other nationalities show some class....

The fee to participate in the race is $250. Roberto Dell'Olmo, from Vercelli in northern Italy, said he "would like that the money I give from the marathon goes to victims."

If any of your angry pals are whining to TV Cameras in NYC, perhaps contact them and ask them to stop embarrassing us any further.

Thanks

dev123

The organisers were the ones who showed zero class in trying to run the marathon when they were the ones on the ground seeing first hand what was going on. They tried to peddle it as the marathon of hope. It reeked of profiteering and it would have been an insult had it gone ahead.

myflipflops

my friend wrote: »

self centred posters here are griping about the Marathon being cancelled?

get over yourselves, show some respect.

Who here is griping? First few comments about it show the opposite thinking.

Can understand this but kinda shocked it wasn't done earlier

Can fully understand why it was cancelled

It should have been off from the very start

my friend wrote: »

nice to know our 'ambassadors' are still displaying their 'septic tiger entitled anger'....

It's amazing what you can do by picking certain parts of an article and mixing them together.

Below is the full quote. I would be angry too if I spent $30k as a group to fly over. The anger could be directed at a number of things. It does not state they disagree with anything, simply they are angry thet will be short $30k.

CBS News correspondent Michelle Miller spoke to a group of Irish runners who were extremely angry since they spent $30,000 to get to New York City in time for the marathon.

my friend wrote: »

meanwhile other nationalities show some class....

If any of your angry pals are whining to TV Cameras in NYC, perhaps contact them and ask them to stop embarrassing us any further.

Thanks

There is nothing in the article to indicate the runners in the lobby crying were Irish. Judging by the placement of the sentence in the article, it was a different group to the Irish ones mentioned.

M three

my friend wrote: »

last official count 41 dead in NYC, almost half on Staten Island and self centred posters here are griping about the Marathon being cancelled?

get over yourselves, show some respect.

nice to know our 'ambassadors' are still displaying their 'septic tiger entitled anger'....

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57544624/nyc-marathon-canceled-amid-outcry-over-priorities/

meanwhile other nationalities show some class....

If any of your angry pals are whining to TV Cameras in NYC, perhaps contact them and ask them to stop embarrassing us any further.

Thanks

You're misleading people with that post. When you read the linked article it actually says;

"Some runners at the New Yorker Hotel in midtown -- just above the blackout zone caused by the superstorm -- were in the lobby crying when they learned the race was off. One person was curled up on a couch, sobbing.

"We spend a year on this," said Gisela Clausen of Munich. "We don't eat what we want. We don't drink what we want. And we're on the streets for hours. We live for this marathon, but we understand."

What the CBS correspondent said in relation to irish runners was; She said that she had spoken to a group of irish runners who were furious, they had spent some 30,000 dollars to travel here.

So basically they're pissed off that it was called off at the last minute. Which is fair enough, seeing as they were all told recently that it was going ahead.

Nowhere does it say that irish runners were "whining to tv cameras"

Why dont you show some class.

Cabaal

my friend wrote: »

get over yourselves, show some respect.

You should be ashamed of yourself for making up stuff and claiming people said and did things when they clearly didn't,

If your going to quote a story then quote it correctly and don't missquote quote it to suit your needs so you can just post a agenda/rant (your not fox news!), you were just hoping somebody won't bother to confirm the actual source....how stupid were you?
:rolleyes:

all in all you're lazy and in my eyes for trying to intentionally misquote what was said by people, now get back under your rock .....

gbee

It was heartbreaking reading and listening to news interviews by victims and may I say especially Staten Island where one commented how they are pulling bodies out of the mud and THEY are preparing fro a marathon.

I got me, an I think I'm a tough old chestnut, anyway despite the anguish this has caused already, the right decision has been made.

sideswipe

get over yourselves, show some respect.

Get a grip, no marathon runner either online here, or on the ground in NYC would suggest for one second that any marathon should take preference over this disaster, the issue is timing. A decision should have been made earlier.
Of course this is with the benefit of hindsight, the mode over here all week has been one of -'we will overcome' and 'we'll not be beaten by this', however as the week progressed it become clearer and clearer how big the scale of devastation had been, the decision to continue was then called into question until the pressure to cancel became so great that there was little choice, the unfortunate part is that the decision didn't happen sooner or indeed that the storm happened at all, for the sake of those that who lost their lives and property rather than those attending the marathon.

woodchopper

my friend wrote: »

last official count 41 dead in NYC, almost half on Staten Island and self centred posters here are griping about the Marathon being cancelled?

get over yourselves, show some respect.

nice to know our 'ambassadors' are still displaying their 'septic tiger entitled anger'....

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57544624/nyc-marathon-canceled-amid-outcry-over-priorities/

meanwhile other nationalities show some class....

If any of your angry pals are whining to TV Cameras in NYC, perhaps contact them and ask them to stop embarrassing us any further.


Thanks

In all your time on boards.ie with all your posts you have only contributed to the Athletics forum twice. What may seem on the surface as bizarre as both posts have presented a negative and disrespectful vibe to athletes in general it is not that all surprising if one analyses your posting history my friend!Over 2,000 posts on liveline can give us the athletic audience the necessary tools to identify the character in question. Namely a complainer or a whinger as such. It is a real pity that liveline is closed for the weekend so you cannot air your grievances however inaccurate they may be. Also many of our posters are in different timezones which can explain the odd timing of their posts. As a avid contributor to liveline debate and through analyses of your other posts I would imagine you are based in Ireland which leads me to suggest that instead of trolling on websites at half two in the morning you instead get a good nights sleep which may brighten up your outlook on live although I hold my breath. Oh I nearly forgot!THANKSWoodchopper

my friend

woodchopper wrote: »

In all your time on boards.ie with all your posts you have only contributed to the Athletics forum twice. What may seem on the surface as bizarre as both posts have presented a negative and disrespectful vibe to athletes in general it is not that surprising if one analyses your posting history my friend!Over 2,000 posts on liveline can give us the athletic audience the necessary tools to identify the character in question. Namely a complainer or a whinger as such. It is a real pity that liveline is closed for the weekend so you cannot air your grievances however inaccurate they may be. Also many of our posters are in different timezones which can explain the odd timing of their posts. As a avid contributor to liveline debate and through analyses of your other posts I would imagine you are based in Ireland which leads me to suggest that instead of trolling on websites at half two in the morning you instead get a good nights sleep which may brighten up your outlook on live although I hold my breath. Oh I nearly forgot!THANKSWoodchopper</p>

You went to a lot of trouble to play the man rather than the substance of my post.

Seeing that you have scanned my posts you will be aware that they laugh at whiners, such as those that go 'wah, wah, wah' because they cant run a Marathon in a disaster zone and the sort that call Liveline, you may see a difference, I don't.

Your assumptions fail you, my career involves travel.

Care to address the 'angry Irish' that you seem so eager to distract from?

€30,000? most likely 'charidee' squelched cash; want to earn the sponsorship? Run the 5.2 mile circuit in CP 5 times; that'll do ya!

http://www.centralparknyc.org/visit/things-to-do/sports/running-jogging.html

Nah, typical Irish response.... get angry, whine, display disrespect and call the Liveline.

Irony much Woodchopper ?

woodchopper

my friend wrote: »

You went to a lot of trouble to play the man rather than the substance of my post.

Seeing that you have scanned my posts you will be aware that they laugh at whiners, such as those that go 'wah, wah, wah' because they cant run a Marathon in a disaster zone and the sort that call Liveline, you may see a difference, I don't.

Your assumptions fail you, my career involves travel.

Care to address the 'angry Irish' that you seem so eager to distract from?

€30,000? most likely 'charidee' squelched cash; want to earn the sponsorship? Run the 5.2 mile circuit in CP 5 times; that'll do ya!

http://www.centralparknyc.org/visit/things-to-do/sports/running-jogging.html

Nah, typical Irish response.... get angry, whine, display disrespect and call the Liveline.

Irony much Woodchopper ?

Since you like travel so much why dont you travel back to liveline my friend!

rom

At the end of the day people have a right to be pissed about something and a silly arguement that there are other people in a worse position is not fair . By the same token the people currently in NY that have lost their homes, have to collect water, have no power etc shouldnt complain because there are people in other parts of the world dying from famine, cure able diseases etc.

The ironic nature of your posts suggest that you should not complain about people on this forum because there probably is another running forum with people with stronger opinions than those here

PS
"Your assumptions fail you, my career involves travel."
Mine does too. I drive 10 mins to and from work everyday

alkev

NY giants v steelers called off tomorrow? Not on your life. That's important
.

woodchopper

alkev wrote: »

NY giants v steelers called off tomorrow? Not on your life. That's important
.

Pretty sure the Giants are going to the Superbowl regardless of the outcome of the Steelers match.

Truman Burbank

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/11/05/health/nyc-marathon-runners-time/index.html?hpt=us_c2