Is a training tyre more robust than a race tyre?

subscriber

I have been using Schwalbe Ultremo ZX tyres for the last six months that came standard with the bike on a new purchase.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/schwalbe-ultremo-zx-evolution-hd-folding-road-tyre/

After 6 months, there completely ruined, I have two rear punctures and one front puncture all in the last three weeks. I was under the impression that schwalbe were supposed to be a good brand of tyre but maybe I was mistaken.

Now that i need to replace the tyre, im wondering if I should get a pair of race tyres or a pair of training tyres. Any reviews from ppl on chain reaction and wiggle mention that training tyres are heavier, but i presume that is only by a few grams?

Is a training tyre more robust than a race tyre in its thickness and density? Is it more likely to last longer and be better puncture proof than a race tyre.. I see most tyres now days weather race or training advertise themselves as "puncture proof" .. Wonder how much truth is behind this...

Any input would be great, thanks a million.

Lumen

I wouldn't judge all race tyres by Ultremo standards.

Ultremos are known to be quite short lived/complete garbage (delete depending on personal experience).

I loved them until one ripped its carcass apart in deepest, darkest Donegal, resisted all attempts to boot it, and forced me to complete my ride by taxi. Never again.

C3PO

6 months from an Ultremo ZX ..... luxury!!! Mine lasted for 3 spins before I gave up on them! I think the Continental Grand Prix series are a great compromise between speed and longevity. I use the Grand Prix 24C on the training bike and GP 4000s on the race bike, both have been great so far!

Chips Lovell

I don't know what your mileage is, but six months is the most I'd expect to get out of any tyre.

But yes, training tyres often tend to be a bit more robust that race orientated ones.

subscriber

The continentals are coming in fairly pricey, I had budgeted for around 50 - 60 euros and the 4000`s are coming in at about 80 euros for a set. What would be the next best thing in and around my price range folks??

padjo5

subscriber wrote: »

The continentals are coming in fairly pricey, I had budgeted for around 50 - 60 euros and the 4000`s are coming in at about 80 euros for a set. What would be the next best thing in and around my price range folks??

I've been using Michelin Krylion Carbon for a year now, 1 puncture. Prob a few euro over budget, but might find a deal. Can be a pig to put em on though. Good luck.

padjo5

subscriber wrote: »

The continentals are coming in fairly pricey, I had budgeted for around 50 - 60 euros and the 4000`s are coming in at about 80 euros for a set. What would be the next best thing in and around my price range folks??

I've had 1 puncture in past year, using Michelin Krylion Carbon. Might find em on offer somewhere. Can be a pig to get em on though! Good luck.

el Bastardo

As a matter of curiosity rather than a grand inquistion: How many miles/kilometres did you cover with said tyres?

subscriber wrote: »

I have been using Schwalbe Ultremo ZX tyres for the last six months that came standard with the bike on a new purchase.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/schwalbe-ultremo-zx-evolution-hd-folding-road-tyre/

After 6 months, there completely ruined, I have two rear punctures and one front puncture all in the last three weeks. I was under the impression that schwalbe were supposed to be a good brand of tyre but maybe I was mistaken.

Now that i need to replace the tyre, im wondering if I should get a pair of race tyres or a pair of training tyres. Any reviews from ppl on chain reaction and wiggle mention that training tyres are heavier, but i presume that is only by a few grams?

Is a training tyre more robust than a race tyre in its thickness and density? Is it more likely to last longer and be better puncture proof than a race tyre.. I see most tyres now days weather race or training advertise themselves as "puncture proof" .. Wonder how much truth is behind this...

Any input would be great, thanks a million.

subscriber

Approx 500 kms I would imagine...

C3PO

subscriber wrote: »

The continentals are coming in fairly pricey, I had budgeted for around 50 - 60 euros and the 4000`s are coming in at about 80 euros for a set. What would be the next best thing in and around my price range folks??

Just ordered 2x24c Grand Prix + 2xGP4000s for €100 in total inc shipping from here! Fantastic value compared to Irish pricing!

http://www.bike-discount.de/shop/m77/k373/continental.html?od=&ft=1

el Bastardo

subscriber wrote: »

Approx 500 kms I would imagine...

I'd better be prepped then; I'm still running the same tyres on mine.

victorcarrera

Last month I was looking for a pair of winter training tyres when I came across these Zaffiros http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=31769
I already have Rubinos on another bike but never tried them in the wet so for a tenner each I decided to give these a try. 800 Km later mostly on wet roads and they are still like new, the stranded wire bead makes them easy to fit, the side walls are strong and when inflated they sit evenly on the rim and don't bind on my very tight mudguards. So far I am happy with the wet grip too even though they are a hard compound tyre. I have since bought another 4 as spares and I see CRC also have the folding version in stock now too. The reviews on CRC are positive too.

DirkVoodoo

I just replaced a 2 year old pair of Vittoria Rubinos with a pair of Rubino Pros (well, minus a few months for being away!)

Those Rubinos outlasted a set of Ultremos by about 18 months and cost 15 euro each from Merlin. In that time I had 2 punctures, one of which was because Vladimir Kurtains let me ride through a massive pothole, nothing would have survived that.

I don't think there is a better "bang for buck" training tyre out there.

Chips Lovell

subscriber wrote: »

Approx 500 kms I would imagine...

Ah OK. I'd expect to get 3,000 to 4,000km out of a tyre.

GlennaMaddy

I've been using Vittoria Rubino and Michelin Pro3/4's, I get almost two seasons out of them (5000 kms per year)