DVB T flogged to death .... here comes DVB T2

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Hi just following some of the threads recently about all new Saorview equipment from January having to be DVB T2 comliant . Why did they not just make it this way from the beginning considering most people will only have bought their receivers very recently or indeed are only buying them this week with the analogue switchoff.
This would all appear very shortsighted, or would I be cynical to think that now that the majority of people have bought their Saorview equipment we are going to told of the new benefits for people in range of the North to pickup the UK channels and sell off a whole new batch of " new and improved" boxes next year, and possibly be the big push for getting people to splash out on a fancy proper PVR's ( hence the delay in introducing one up to this point).
It seems all very " Apple" like with a drip feed of new improved products to part people and their money.

I only came across all this talk about DVB T2 when I started researching buying a new TV , out of curiosity does anybody have a list of TV,s that are DVB T2 enabled because so far apart from a few very high end and expensive samsungs they seem very few and far between. At this rate I will more than likely wait until early next year before splashing .

thoughts

ardmacha

out of curiosity does anybody have a list of TV,s that are DVB T2 enabled because so far apart from a few very high end and expensive samsungs they seem very few and far between.

There was such a list posted here recently.

Saorview certification could not really have been confined to DVB-T2 sets as such were hardly available when Saorview started.

But do you not think that if Saorview certification had been confined to a a few very high end and expensive sets that this would have lead to people complaining also and a lot of DVB-T sets being sold anyway?

sesswhat

Saorview approved TVs with DVB-T2.

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thanks for reply about list , do you possibly have a link

I am certainly no expert in any of these technical areas and am just following the threads from some of the more regular contributors who seem to know the intricacies of how these things work and I take your point about DVB T2 being in the very early stages when launched , but was the whole original idea supposed to be about future proofing and that is why they got away from the old nearly obsolete mpeg 2 system . That is why we have the like of Watty quite correctly giving out yards about all this partially obsolete be sold off here from the UK . I just feel that as they were planning this system they could have initially made all equipment DVB T2 as I believe it is backwards compatible with older DVB T1 systems whereas DVB T1 cannot broadcast DVB T2 signals .

It just seems all this changes in specification has been kept very low key to " the man in the street" who probably believe like me until the last couple of weeks that I was going to be future proofed for the next good few years.
I know technology constantly changes and we cant keep waiting for the " new model" or we would never buy anything , but again I think a 2 month gap between analogue switchoff and new specifications seems very strange

sesswhat

Unless you can actually receive current DVB-T2 transmissions from the UK, you should be future-proofed for a few years at least.

The change in specification now is simply to pre-empt any future upgrades, but I agree that it should have been implemented earlier, at least for set top boxes if not TVs.

watty

Why did they not just make it this way from the beginning considering most people will only have bought their receivers very recently or indeed are only buying them this week with the analogue switchoff.

Because when they decided DVB-T2 didn't exist
Because when roll out started DVB-T2 didn't really exist (only on paper).
Because we don't actually need it.

It's a sensible move to have it part of the spec from Jan 2013, for the 8 to 10 years time when a DVB-T2 much might be added and to make it easier for Cross border reception.

lertsnim

sesswhat wrote: »

Saorview approved TVs with DVB-T2.

Nice to know my tv is DVB-T2 compliant. Not that it makes a blind bit of difference

Sam Russell

The analogue switch off is irrelevant as the launch of Saorview was two years ago (when TV3 was added) or 17 months ago when Pat Rabbitte attended Montrose and officially launched Saorview. They could have annouced the ASO for October last year - it would have all the current madness occuring 12 months ago. If they announced ASO for October 2015, people would still have a last minute rush. Why does the little old lady half-way up a mountain wait till they switch off the transmission to discover that it has been turned off? Why was nothing done about informing her of the impending disaster in her life, and why did she do nothing about it? It is only 17 months since the new service was announced, and adverts and programmes have carried detailed information about it - (even Gay Byrne has been involved). Surely she wondered what Gay Byrne was on about?

We even have Sean O'Rourke on The News at One on Wednesday 24th October refering to RTE News Now as a new digital channel. He works in the same department as the source of that channel. It has only been on the air for over two years. Did no-one tell him about it?

They all think Saorview is new and it is being launched on October 24th!

FREETV

Sam Russell wrote: »

The analogue switch off is irrelevant as the launch of Saorview was two years ago (when TV3 was added) or 17 months ago when Pat Rabbitte attended Montrose and officially launched Saorview. They could have annouced the ASO for October last year - it would have all the current madness occuring 12 months ago. If they announced ASO for October 2015, people would still have a last minute rush. Why does the little old lady half-way up a mountain wait till they switch off the transmission to discover that it has been turned off? Why was nothing done about informing her of the impending disaster in her life, and why did she do nothing about it? It is only 17 months since the new service was announced, and adverts and programmes have carried detailed information about it - (even Gay Byrne has been involved). Surely she wondered what Gay Byrne was on about?

We even have Sean O'Rourke on The News at One on Wednesday 24th October refering to RTE News Now as a new digital channel. He works in the same department as the source of that channel. It has only been on the air for over two years. Did no-one tell him about it?

They all think Saorview is new and it is being launched on October 24th!

True Sam and the same class of gobs****s are supposedly running the country on our behalf in the Oireachtas. I cannot wait until there is an Oireachtas channel, I will break out the popcorn and the fizzy every evening. :rolleyes: