Do you tip in a restaurant ?

SunnyDub1

A post on a different thread got me thinking about this one....

If I receive a good service in a restaurant I will tip. Not because I have to but for me I feel it's the right thing to do , it's manners and don't feel like a stingy sh*t leaving the restaurant.


do you all tip and why?
or if not , why ?

eyescreamcone

Why do we tip in restaurants but not in the supermarket?

Thinly veiled "I can afford to eat out" thread.

bbam

Only if the service is "Excellant" and providing there is no service charge already on the bill... 5-10%

I don't think its necessary to tip for "good" service, thats what I expect as a minimum when I decide to eat somewhere..

Rented Mule

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-qV9wVGb38

jfallon

Deleted User wrote: »

Thinly veiled "I can afford to eat out" thread.

Thinly veiled "I'd like you to bestow thanks upon my post" post.

Stheno

Deleted User wrote: »

Thinly veiled "I can afford to eat out" thread.

Somebody please add thinly veiled to the swear filter.:(

leonidas83

Deleted User wrote: »

Thinly veiled "I can afford to eat out" thread.

Thinly veiled thanks whore;)

2ndcoming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-qV9wVGb38

Ah sick! Beaten to it. Great minds and all that

davet82

yes i tip, good service equals reward, if you can afford to eat out, you can afford to tip

now we'll have all the mean bastards saying how they cant afford this and that but can spend 60 quid on a meal but cant spare 2 euro

FatherLen

thinly shut up.

Seaneh

For me depends on a few things.
If there is a service charge, they can **** off right away.

Id service is ****, I leave what I basically consider an insult, like, on a bill of €35 I might leave an euro. I once just wrote on a reciept, your tip for today, smile when greeting people, show an interest in being a good server, don't just throw food at people, don't sigh when asked questions and don't act like a **** to people you rely on for tips.


Usually leave 15%ish though.

Rented Mule wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-qV9wVGb38

Not valid in Ireland, there isn't two different minimum wages in Ireland like there is in the US for tipped and untipped jobs so nobody is making $4 an hour.

Malari

eyescreamcone wrote: »

Why do we tip in restaurants but not in the supermarket?

I don't sit down in a supermarket, order my items from a list, and have someone bring them to my trolly

Yeah, I've been that waitress, so I do tip usually. But not if the service is poor.

davet82

and before we have the 'its an american thing' its not, its a decent human being thing appreciating a smile with their service from somebody who is on a small wage and takes alot of crap too i'd imagine

jfallon

jfallon wrote: »

Thinly veiled "I'd like you to bestow thanks upon my post" post.

I'll settle for being quoted. Cheers.

girl in the striped socks

For good service I always tip.
However I can't stand bad manners, a bad attitude or a sulky face & therefore will not tip for those reasons.
I'm also not fond of someone wearing too much make up, too much jewellery, coloured nail varnish, someone fixing their hair, chewing gum, going out for a fag break & coming back in wreaking of smoke.
Usually I only come across the above at a large function but it really annoys me that a hotel/ restaurant would be that stuck to hire someone who does some of the above.

eyescreamcone

Malari wrote: »

I don't sit down in a supermarket, order my items from a list, and have someone bring them to my trolly

Yeah, I've been that waitress, so I do tip usually. But not if the service is poor.

Hello.
The waitress does her job - minimum/close to min wage and expects a tip.

A checkout girl does her job - minimum wage/close to min and gets nothing.

What about a shoe shop?
Or a petrol station?
Or a chemist?

I know why we tip - we saw it in a movie - The Yanks do it so it must be cool.
I tip begrudgingly, 10% - Am I'm cool too?? :cool:

OldNotWIse

Malari wrote: »

I don't sit down in a supermarket, order my items from a list, and have someone bring them to my trolly

Yeah, I've been that waitress, so I do tip usually. But not if the service is poor.

Thats what happens when we shop in Lidl/Aldi

Conall Cernach

davet82 wrote: »

yes i tip, good service equals reward, if you can afford to eat out, you can afford to tip

now we'll have all the mean bastards saying how they cant afford this and that but can spend 60 quid on a meal but cant spare 2 euro

It'd be the rare time I wouldn't tip at all. Maybe if the waiter/waitress set me on fire or something I wouldn't. If the service is average (which it usually is in Ireland) then I might just round up so if a meal was €56 I'd leave €60. For great service I'd spring for 10-15%. So for the €56 example I'd probably leave €65. I was out for a meal a few months ago and had a bottle of wine on the house as I had to wait 20 - 30 minutes or something for my main. I probably tipped the price of the wine that night (was only the house white @€;14).

During my holidays in Switzerland this year there was one bar/restaurant that I went to every night and tipped all the time. It was only on the last night that I noticed a service charge on the bill as usually I just stick them in my pocket and forget about them. The staff must have thought I was Croesus.

BBDBB

Good service gets a tip, ie prompt, pleasant and seemingly genuine concern for my dining experience

ignoring me, a cant be arsed attitude, late meal, something wrong with the meal, doesnt get a tip

5starpool

Stheno wrote: »

Somebody please add thinly veiled to the swear filter.:(

As an only occasional AH reader I'm starting to get why it's been picked out as a special case to be frowned upon. It's pretty irritating.

Supraman

if the waiter/waitress puts in an effort then yes I would tip , not a set % but certainly something for the service . Funnily enough there's a bar I regularly eat in where they have a separate restaurant upstairs . The staff that serve downstairs are always much more attentive than the dedicated restaurant staff and would always receive a tip .

SunnyDub1

girl in the striped socks wrote: »

For good service I always tip.
However I can't stand bad manners, a bad attitude or a sulky face & therefore will not tip for those reasons.
I'm also not fond of someone wearing too much make up, too much jewellery, coloured nail varnish, someone fixing their hair, chewing gum, going out for a fag break & coming back in wreaking of smoke.
Usually I only come across the above at a large function but it really annoys me that a hotel/ restaurant would be that stuck to hire someone who does some of the above.

So to answer the question you don't tip anyone

girl in the striped socks

SunnyDub1 wrote: »

So to answer the question you don't tip anyone

Where did it say that?
Bad manners, bad attitude & sulky face won't get a tip.
I just listed things I'm not fond of after it but I didn't say I wouldn't leave a tip.
Read the post.

I always tip (and generously).

I am also married to a former waitress.

These two facts are related.

eyescreamcone

Deleted User wrote: »

I always tip (and generously).

I am also married to a former waitress.

These two facts are related.

So you think if you tip well you'll get a ride, is it??

Malari

eyescreamcone wrote: »

Hello.
The waitress does her job - minimum/close to min wage and expects a tip.

A checkout girl does her job - minimum wage/close to min and gets nothing.

What about a shoe shop?
Or a petrol station?
Or a chemist?

I know why we tip - we saw it in a movie - The Yanks do it so it must be cool.
I tip begrudgingly, 10% - Am I'm cool too?? :cool:

I've done both waitressing and checking-out and the former is a much harder job I think. I think you go out for a dining experience and good service is part of that.

I think it's nice to tip, I don't think it's cool to tip. I don't judge people who don't tip either though.

Lord TSC

Tpyically, if my dinner comes to a certain amount, I pay to the nearest bill and tell them to keep the change.

So, today, lunch came to 17€. I gave them a €20 note and told them to keep the change. That stands true if I go up to €19.90 though.

If, though, the service is great, the food is great, I will tip them more. If they work hard to impress me, they deserve bonuses...

eyescreamcone

eyescreamcone wrote: »

So you think if you tip well you'll get a ride, is it??

Well, if I don't I won't. That's how I would put it.

eyescreamcone

Deleted User wrote: »

Well, if I don't I won't. That's how I would put it.

Keep tipping, Sir

SunnyDub1

girl in the striped socks wrote: »

Where did it say that?
Bad manners, bad attitude & sulky face won't get a tip.
I just listed things I'm not fond of after it but I didn't say I wouldn't leave a tip.
Read the post.

"For good service I always tip.
However I can't stand bad manners, a bad attitude or a sulky face & therefore will not tip for those reasons" - this is fair enough I wouldn't tip on that either,

however ...

"I'm also not fond of someone wearing too much make up"
- what has this got to do with a good or bad service ? Some woman like to wear a lot of make up it has no effect on their work

"too much jewelery" - again this has no effect what so ever on the service they bring

"coloured nail varnish" - That's just ridiculous

King Of Wishful Thinking

Always, maybe that's why I'm always broke.

mishala

The customer service from a supermarket is not the same as in a restaurant and I think if we tipped check out staff maybe they would smile a bit more and actually make eye contact. Yes they all 'do their job' but what kind of customer service do you expect from check out staff compared to your waiter? I think you expect much more from a waiter.

I worked as a waitress and it is a tough job, working 12-3, 6-finish split shifts 4-5 days a week on minimum wage is hard going, it's busy, stressful, you are on your feet the whole time, you are under pressure and must keep a smile on your face have a pleasant attitude, keep good time management and have good attention to detail etc etc. In my opinion waiters deserve tips, they work hard for them.

I always tip at least 10%, probably because I have been in their shoes and think they deserve it, but obviously if the waiter is rude I wouldn't tip but I haven't experienced that before.

I have a question should we also be tipping hairdressers? I don't know if it's rude to tip them or not to, the last time I went to the hairdressers I tipped but it just felt awkward. I'd be interested in hearing about your opinions on that too.

girl in the striped socks

SunnyDub1 wrote: »

"For good service I always tip.
However I can't stand bad manners, a bad attitude or a sulky face & therefore will not tip for those reasons" - this is fair enough I wouldn't tip on that either,

however ...

"I'm also not fond of someone wearing too much make up"
- what has this got to do with a good or bad service ? Some woman like to wear a lot of make up it has no effect on their work

"too much jewelery" - again this has no effect what so ever on the service they bring

"coloured nail varnish" - That's just ridiculous

Make up caked on a waitress's face looks wrong in my opinion. She could be a dinger at her job but there's a time & place for it & in my opinion a person serving food shouldn't have it troweled on. As I said my opinion. I didn't specify no make up, just not the drag queen look.
More or less the same argument for too much jewellery but I'd also add that it's unhygienic. Hold on there while I lean across the table to place your plate in front of you, just don't mind the chain dipping in it. No thanks. It looks unprofessional.
Coloured nail varnish is fine if someone isn't dealing with food. Again it's a hygiene issue. They could have a gorgeous shade of dark purple painted on & enough dirt under their nails to sow spuds. Clear nail varnish or none at all when working with food.

SunnyDub1

mishala wrote: »

I have a question should we also be tipping hairdressers? I don't know if it's rude to tip them or not to, the last time I went to the hairdressers I tipped but it just felt awkward. I'd be interested in hearing about your opinions on that too.

My good Friend is a hairdresser. Like you said about working long hours and been on your feet for 10+ it's the same circumstances for a hairdresser.
Also when they are only starting the earn sweet fcuk all.
So to answer your question yes, you should tip a hair dresser as long as you are satisfied with the job they done and they where pleasant. JMO

Emeraldy Pebbles

davet82 wrote: »

and before we have the 'its an american thing' its not, its a decent human being thing appreciating a smile with their service from somebody who is on a small wage and takes alot of crap too i'd imagine

Actually, in lots of countries, tipping is not done generally, Australia for example. Yes, they are on minimum wage but so are lots of people who take crap in their job, and who don't receive a tip.

Irishcrx

I only tip escorts , if she really puts the effort in and makes me feel special , you know a good believable hard going over i'd give 10% extra , if she got into some BDSM maybe 15%.

If she lies there like a rag doll looking uninterested I'd have to make a complaint to her pimp.

mishala

SunnyDub1 wrote: »

My good Friend is a hairdresser. Like you said about working long hours and been on your feet for 10+ it's the same circumstances for a hairdresser.
Also when they are only starting the earn sweet fcuk all.
So to answer your question yes, you should tip a hair dresser as long as you are satisfied with the job they done and they where pleasant. JMO

Yeah of course, good to know, thanks.

davet82

Emeraldy Pebbles wrote: »

Actually, in lots of countries, tipping is not done generally, Australia for example. Yes, they are on minimum wage but so are lots of people who take crap in their job, and who don't receive a tip.

whats your point? oz is the same as here, i know that, i'm sure the cheap skates over there use 'its an american culture thing' too :pac:

kilrush

do people tip delivery people?
when i was working during the summer i was making a particularly big delivery to a pub and the old woman running the place insisted on giving me a fiver. i did end up spending it plus a lot more in the pub that night but it still never occurred to me to tip someone like that.

Emeraldy Pebbles

davet82 wrote: »

whats your point? oz is the same as here, i know that, i'm sure the cheap skates over there use 'its an american culture thing' too :pac:

Nope, it really isn't done there. Nothing to do with being a cheapskate.

woodchuck

For me:

Poor service = no tip

Above average service = tip and happy to do so

Average service = tip, but begrudgingly so. In this situation I only tip so that I don't look bad tbh. I don't think average service in this country warrants a tip. The minimum wage here isn't the same as minimum wage in America where they genuinely need it to bulk up their salary to something they can actually live off. If waiters here are so desperate for a tip I think they should go the extra mile to earn it.

Vojera

I always leave a few quid. Only €1-2 if service is really bad, or about 8-10% if it's just average (and, honestly, depending on what sort of change I have on me).

If the service is really good (or I consider our group as having been particularly awkward!) then I'll leave what I consider a generous tip (15-20%).

One thing I don't really like is automatically having service charge added to my bill. I think it should be at my discretion how much of a tip I want to leave (that said, if the service was really good in that case, I will leave extra on top of what's included in the bill).

There is a big difference between a good waiter and a bad one. A good one adds a lot to your night. It leaves you with a good impression of the place. A bad one can leave a sour taste in your mouth, even if everything else with the meal was fine.

muff03

Just to add to the debate:

American waiters/waitresses are usual paid around the $2/hr mark, which is a lot less than the minimum wage being paid in Ireland.

davet82

Emeraldy Pebbles wrote: »

Nope, it really isn't done there. Nothing to do with being a cheapskate.

pffft... hungry gits

flas

Just on the service charge thing people are saying,do you genuinely think any of the staff see the service charge?not a chance!but then again i dont understand how its ment to work!

fishy fishy

davet82 wrote: »

yes i tip, good service equals reward, if you can afford to eat out, you can afford to tip

now we'll have all the mean bastards saying how they cant afford this and that but can spend 60 quid on a meal but cant spare 2 euro

you tip 2 Euro on a 60 Euro meal - scrounger. it's not worth putting down on the table.

snubbleste

No.

Teyla Emmagan

I tip if either the food or the service is good. If they're both **** though they will be getting nothing.

davet82

fishy fishy wrote: »

you tip 2 Euro on a 60 Euro meal - scrounger. it's not worth putting down on the table.

ok 3 fiddy it is then

Potential-Monke

Having done loads of Waiting work in the past (and being a certified waiter, thank you no summer jobs after the leaving cert 2001), tipping is something i used to expect if i feel i had done a good job. I always tried to do the best i could, because sometimes you do rely on the tips.

But, i will look at the menu beforehand and see if there is an automatic service charge (where i worked it was put on to tables of 8 or more). If there is a service charge for individual tables then i usually won't leave much (rounding up to the nearest note), and if the waiters/waitresses don't get that service charge it's something that should be taken up with the management. If there is no service charge and the service was good, i'll leave a tip.

On the make-up/jewelery note, you're not supposed to wear either (well, minimum amount of make-up). As someone said above, it's a hygiene thing.