Small Springers

EPointer=Birdss

Probably been done before but anyone know a good line of old fashioned Springers?

Look at the dogs in this & tell me trialling hasn't shrunk the breed! 1.10 onwards shows some fine lumps of dogs

TriggerPL

I think u need to see my springer. But I agree with you I can not get a bitch to suit him at all

jap gt

My bitch is as close to the old type springer as i have seen for a good while, she is only 10months and already pounding through cover, she is bigger already than my neighbors 4 year old dog. im delighted with her so far, parents where big square springers aswell i spent ages looking for the right type of build

like all good dogs something always goes wrong and the dam of my bitch was put down after getting a tip from a car a few months ago

EPointer=Birdss

Throw up some pics lads.
We might have to get the Barry White CD some day!

gregers85

The breed has definitely got smaller! we always kept springers at home! 2 of my cousins recently got 2 pups, male and female (from different litters) both coming on the 1 yr mark and are much smaller then anything we have had before!!

jap gt

heres my springer enjoying a rabbit this morning, just took the pics quick so isnt a great shot to show her size

Browning2010

Does a bigger dog mean a better dog?

Why are lads so concerned with how there dog looks? If he/she's healthy and hunts well what difference does it make what size she is?..

jap gt

Browning2010 wrote: »

Does a bigger dog mean a better dog?

Why are lads so concerned with how there dog looks? If he/she's healthy and hunts well what difference does it make what size she is?..

main reason i want a bigger dog is for retrieving, bigger mouth etc makes it easier to carry rabbits, duck in water etc i also prefer the look of the stronger type

pheasntstalker

i posted a thread here some time ago,asking about different types of springers,as my own bitch is an old type big heavy set springer and i havnt come across a springer matching her type il try get a pic up of her soon,im breeding her at the end of season when she comes into heat,all things goin well,but i have noticed alot of springers are very small and very light built, i read in some magazine a while ago that in the trialling field, they are now looking to breed bitchs with ordinary rough shooting dogs because of pure and close breeding of to many ftch dogs down thru the years making the dogs lighter built,now i stand corrected on that, but from what i ve seen springers are getting smaller ah if they get any smaller ,the paris hiltons and what nots will have them in there handbags the nxt big fashion item toy springers!!!!:D:D:D mhmhmmmh now theres a market;)

EPointer=Birdss

Browning2010 wrote: »

Does a bigger dog mean a better dog?

Why are lads so concerned with how there dog looks? If he/she's healthy and hunts well what difference does it make what size she is?..

Let's not descend unto that conversation again!
It's not the point of the thread.

I always liked the old style heavy boned springer. Not a fan of the new cocker sized ones.
We used have a springer one time that would kill foxes the terriers would bolt. An animal he was. The same fella used let pheasants pick out if his bowl yet come out with the gun & there wasn't a pheasant safe in any cover.

I like a bulldozer with muscle & power as that's the type of dog I need to hunt the cover we have here.

It's all personal taste & if happy with the small flashy dogs then best of luck to you. I feel it's almost a new breed now & I have a preference for the old.

That's all so rather than debate that story all over again I'd rather lads point me in the direction of the type of dog I'm after...

EPointer=Birdss

jap gt wrote: »

heres my springer enjoying a rabbit this morning, just took the pics quick so isnt a great shot to show her size

That's a fine bitch Jap gt. In good nick also!

EastTyrone

my springer, i had his brother who was a taller dog but just as well built then i baught this lad after my dog died, hes a year and a half in the pic, very well built and broad dog

pheasntstalker

ep whats the crack lad, il try and post up a pic of my bitch jess i think she is the type your looking for ,she is hugh compared to most springers dogs or bitchs of lads i shoot with,and if and when she has pups ive a few of the lads looking to take pups off me, now i have to go and find the camera thingy that plugs into laptop and try and post up pic, i am a caveman when it comes to computers lol:o il be back to ya

nowwerehurlin

i know they say talk is cheap but I think I might have the kind of dog you talk about !.. Hes a big old fashioned type springer with a strong square head. An animal of a dog in cover if there's something around he wont stop til he finds it. I take no credit for having him like this though ! I was just lucky enough to be given a present of the dog by a friend of my fathers and with very little work he became an ideal rough shooting dog. His temperament is like none I've seen before though .. No interest in people or balls. Just wants to hunt,hunt,hunt! Its funny you should say that about your springer killing foxes epointer,because towards the end of last season this fella pinned a vixen by the throat in thick cover and killed her! I have never heard of it before til now ! I would be hoping to breed from this boy in the future with another big dog to try and get a line of big springers going. I will try and post some pics of him later .

stevie_b

Not my springer, but Bob is a strong lad..... he's some swimmer!

pheasntstalker

lads how in the name of god do ye get pic from stored on yer laptop to insert an the tread on boards sorry to be a p,i,a,but im useless with computers:o

dev110

pheasntstalker wrote: »

lads how in the name of god do ye get pic from stored on yer laptop to insert an the tread on boards sorry to be a p,i,a,but im useless with computers:o

To post pictures directly from your computer:

• Go into the thread you wish to post the pictures on.
• Click new reply.
• Click on "Manage Attachments".
• A new window will appear.
• Click on "Choose File".
• A new window appears that leads to the files on your computer.
• Click on pictures or whatever folder contains your pictures.
• Click on the file name for the picture, and then "open" in the bottom right corner of the window.
• The file location appears in the "Attachment" window.
• Click "upload".
• Repeat this for as many pictures as you wish to upload.
• Once you have all the pictures selected scroll down the attachment window, and click on "Close this window".
• You are now back on the main reply box for the thread.
• You may post the pictures as attachments or alternatively you can click on the attachments under the reply box.
• This will open the picture in a new tab.
• Click on the address/header bar of the new tab.
• Go back to the tab that has the reply box open.
• Click on the "Insert image icon".
• Right click on the pop up, and click paste to insert the header/address into the pop up window.
• Click "OK".
• Repeat as necessary for all pictures.
• Once done click "Post Reply".

The post will now have both pictures, and attachments.

EPointer=Birdss

Much more substantial dogs there guys

gregers85

EPointer=Birdss wrote: »

I always liked the old style heavy boned springer. Not a fan of the new cocker sized ones.
We used have a springer one time that would kill foxes the terriers would bolt. An animal he was. The same fella used let pheasants pick out if his bowl yet come out with the gun & there wasn't a pheasant safe in any cover.

I like a bulldozer with muscle & power as that's the type of dog I need to hunt the cover we have here.

It's all personal taste & if happy with the small flashy dogs then best of luck to you. I feel it's almost a new breed now & I have a preference for the old.

That's all so rather than debate that story all over again I'd rather lads point me in the direction of the type of dog I'm after...

Ya I agree - when i was younger my Dad and his brothers always had big strong springers!! I much prefer them to the newer slim line version!! I like a big strong dog too!!

sonofthegun

uncle has two springers that we hunt over first is and old style bitch that came from english stock she is 6 now second is an irish breed dog he was pick of the litter but the old bitch is massive compared to him its amazing to see the size difference in the the same breed
im hoping to get a springer myself soon and i think i would prefer the old type dog just for the look of them
sotg

patdahat

i myself prefer the bigger strong boned head like a bullock type springer and a friend has the dog, this is him 35kg+, bad pic tho, we wanted to get him bred so the bitch is of the average build but very good to burst cover and retrieve, the dog will stay going all day 9 in morning till dark.land and water. have a nice dog pup off him.

TriggerPL

Noticing a lot of the dogs are heavy marked I was always a strong believer in it .

Bob is what I call a proper spaniel . Fine dog you posted up .

This is Ben . I started a thread when I first joined ere a spaniel data base il see can I dig it up

Dalken

I have two nice big bitches, a mother and daughter, they come down the Blackwood Moss line(Sire and GrandSire respectively) who was a field trial champion some years ago and by all accounts he was a big dog. They are both big strong, longish kinda dogs, both very strong retirevers. I don't think you can generalise about trial dogs, as a breeder I can tell you that pups from the same litter can grow up all shapes and sizes. Trialers like to go for dogs with a lot of white for 'flash' apparantly when they work. For me size and shape is important but comes second to whats between the ears.

EPointer=Birdss

TriggerPL wrote: »

Noticing a lot of the dogs are heavy marked I was always a strong believer in it .

Bob is what I call a proper spaniel . Fine dog you posted up .

This is Ben . I started a thread when I first joined ere a spaniel data base il see can I dig it up

I like the back & neck on that dog trigger
Very powerful looking.

TriggerPL

EPointer=Birdss wrote: »

I like the back & neck on that dog trigger
Very powerful looking.

I have a video of him in cover , first week I got him he was 13 months old , no control on him but turn up ur lap top and listen to the hedge , and no scent . Il post it tomorrow off the lap top

garyc007

i like both types as both have their advantages i feel. my bitch isnt that big but her brother is a very well built dog, its a pity he isnt hunted

beretta686s

i have 1 of those bulldozers at home next wednesday will be his 12th season id say it will probally be his last,his heart is still so much in it, but his body sais otherwise........................

EPointer=Birdss

beretta686s wrote: »

i have 1 of those bulldozers at home next wednesday will be his 12th season id say it will probally be his last,his heart is still so much in it, but his body sais otherwise........................

Oi oi no poaching before the season!

Right lads who's breeding a litter to be ready for Feb??

beretta686s

uups i meant thursday,i have the dog all i need is the willing bitch..dont we all lol

highduck

EPointer=Birdss wrote: »

Much more substantial dogs there guys

Big dog all trial breeding Ftch sire and ftw dam..... http://m.youtube.com/index?client=mv-google&rdm=mcetap2f5#/watch?v=Gm_Dxj-Z4ME

pheasntstalker

heres my bitch jessy not the best pic[IMG]http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/hawiaan nite[/IMG]

EPointer=Birdss

pheasntstalker wrote: »

heres my bitch jessy not the best pic[IMG]http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/hawiaan nite[/IMG]

Go again PS. Can't see pic. If you want to email me pic I'll embed it for you...

pheasntstalker

yeh sorry ep, i think it would b the best option,everytime i try to upload pic it keeps coming up error 503 no service up on the boards attechments:( how will i send to u via an email or by pm, im not tbh great with teci things:o

TriggerPL

TriggerPL wrote: »

I have a video of him in cover , first week I got him he was 13 months old , no control on him but turn up ur lap top and listen to the hedge , and no scent . Il post it tomorrow off the lap top

video if ben in heavy cover 13 months a week after i got him .