i think iv found whats wrong with my swing

Hijpo

after playing 50/50 golf, by this i mean a good shot followed by a complete duff shot, for a good while i was at the range the other day and found that if i raise my left shoulder a little more i get alot more consistancy with my irons. Out of no where it works a treat and cant wait to get out for a round to see how it goes.

have any of you watched countless videos, read a number of books, moved your hands, belt your elbow, changed your stance etc etc only for one slight thing to sort out your biggest problem?

Danny dyers double

I got a lesson last Wednesday week and the pro showed me how to grip the club properly . Feel like I wasted 7 months of playing but am looking forward to see my inprovement .

Being to the range 3 times to practice and get use to the new grip but really seen big Improvments already especially with my irons

brianrcarney

just remember the range is for thinking the course is for reacting... do not over think on course.

Couple of swing thoughts is nearly too many for me on course, pick target and commit and hopefully range has caused the practice to become permanent!

Senna

If i had a euro for every time i think i've found out what i need to change to have a better swing, only for it to stop working the next round, i'd be a millionaire.











edit; it doesn't stop me from trying them out or attempting to learn:D

neddynasty

Hijpo, been the same myself all year. Have had no consistency whatsoever. Been looking up videos and reading articles etc to help but to no avail. I play a lot of hurling and when at the range on Saturday it came into my head what do I do when hitting a sliotar. The simple answer was I concentrate on making good contact with the ball. I don't think about where the hurley is when I swing back or where my feet are etc, that's all natural.
So on Saturday, for the last 15 balls, I concentrated on making good contact with the ball instead of how i'm shifting my weight or hip rotation or where I'm finishing my back swing etc. The result, 15 balls straight out and consistent distance too.

May not translate to a course but I was happy leaving the range anyway!

mike12

A bit of advice i got from a pro recently is if you are heading to the range a lot have 1 session where you just hit balls. No worrying where anything is just bash the balls out there. We can get too techinical at times and in the end of the day you want to be able to get to the course and have zero swing thoughts, it is hard to do that if all your practice is checking where moving parts during the swing.
Mike

Hijpo

The amount of times iv been at the range only for everything to unravel and i leave there never wanting to take a club out of my bag again haha

I can relate to that Mike, trying to keep track of everything bring where its supposed to be then after you have everything as it should be you top it or smash the club into the mat, there is nothing worse.

PARlance

I read this last night whilst I was watching an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm last night that was centered around golf. Ironic I thought

Personally, I've found the one thing wrong with my swing about 20 times now
But I don't want to put a downer on things, cherish those good days

OP, I've been really working on my swing for 2 years now, I had a couple of one off lessons in the first year, then spent all this year getting my lesson from the interweb.

My swing has come on a fair bit this year but if I was to do it all again I'd book myself in for 4 lessons over 6 months from the offset.
I'm doing this at present, had first lesson 3 weeks ago, next one in 2 weeks.

I've went for this route as while one off lessons/videos are ok, you've got nobody but yourself monitoring the process. And from my experience, I'm a pretty bad judge of my own swing. A good Pro would see in 10 seconds what I may never notice.
You've also got the danger of taking too much in/overthinking things with videos.

I told the Pro my plan at the start of the lesson, and we agreed that it would be best to give me a couple of things to work on over the 5 week break between lessons, I've been working on these big time over the last 3 weeks and will continue to do so for the next 2 weeks...
If I hadn't booked the second lesson, I know from experience, that I wouldn't have been working as hard on the changes.

I'm early days with this, and I've found a Pro that I'm happy with.
He's even been good enough and offered to do spot checks on me in between the lessons to make sure I'm on track.
I was talking to another boardsie about this, and the Pro hinted at it himself, they got 100's of lads coming for one-off lessons, they know there'll give these guys a bit of advice and never see them again.
I think the Pro liked the "project" I offered him at the start of it, it was something he can get into himself, I certainly was delighted with his attitude and hoping it all goes well.

That's my 2 cent anyway.

Hijpo

I have had lessons myself, 12+ infact over the last year, i still couldnt get a consistant connection between ball and club face. However with this adjustment to my shoulder it would lead me to believe it was mostly about my posture, something any good pro should start with and now that i think of it, my tutor never mentioned it.

pom pom snaz peeler

this game must be the most furstrating on the planet. everytime i play golf im trying something different and I blame the internet for this:D always looking for new tips on youtube, changing something when things are ok with my swing and it destroys everything.

i agree the best way to go is find a pro you can trust and complete 4/5 lessons or more if needed and stick with that. problem is how do you know if a pro is a good teacher or not. Ive not had any lessons but seen some pros in action and some of them have killed more swings than small pox!

GreeBo

I'd worry about any swing fix that appears at the range. Hitting that many balls in a row will naturally get your hand/eye coordination tuned and you will hit the ball better. Hitting the ball well on the range due to grooved timing rarely translates well to the course in my experience.

spacecoyote

I've had lessons with a couple of different pros over the last few years and you definitely do get a range of approaches.

The first pro I went to broke things down very simply, took each element one at a time and tried to work at getting me a fundamentally solid swing...the best approach I think for a new golfer.

The second I went to, only for one lesson, as it was a gift meant for another golfer who couldn't use it. His attitude was a bit more holistic (not sure if thats quite the correct term, but its close enough). He said he'd worked with so many golfers and tried to teach them all a fundamentally perfect swing that he noticed that the vast majority don't get any major benefit. So he looked to take an existing swing and try to tweak it to straighten out major flaws and try to let a player get the most out of their existing swing.

The third guy I'm with, who I'll probably give a try for a while is a young guy, very enthusiastic about his golf. He seems to have an excellent eye for detail and looks to balance a bit of the two. He seems to be good at pointing out any fundamentals, but looks at drills & games that are good for honing your golf game.

All 3 have definitely got their merits. I guess it really depends on what you are trying to work on.

I would definitely pick seeing a pro over internet/self analysis if you're trying to sort a swing out.

Best of luck, the thing with golf is, it'll never stop being a work in progress, the pros are constantly working on their game, so chances are, you'll always be working on your game too!!!

mike12

Have been to 4 different pros now, first guy corrected my major faults but felt he was not really helping me towards a better swing. Second guy was really good but moved so i had to change. Going to Anthony Martin in the Grange currently and find him very good. I got a free lesson with a pro and he was nutz. I have a fairly solid base and can get a 45 degree hip turn in and 90 degree shoulder turn and i hit the ball a long way. The stuff he was telling me was wrong was crazy he wanted me to get my left foot way off the ground so i could get a 60 degree turn in my hips with my left knee almost touching my right. I don't know if he wanted to wreck my conifdence so i would come running back to him or though he would never see me again and wanted to wreck my swing but i was very close to walking out half way thru. The final straw was when i said but that is causing my right knee to straighten which i had been working on for the last 6 months with the other pro and he goes ah that will happen but it helps to get your hips open. Find a pro who seems to be talking sense and try a few before you comitt to a long term project with one.
Mike

GreeBo

mike12 wrote: »

Have been to 4 different pros now, first guy corrected my major faults but felt he was not really helping me towards a better swing. Second guy was really good but moved so i had to change. Going to Anthony Martin in the Grange currently and find him very good. I got a free lesson with a pro and he was nutz. I have a fairly solid base and can get a 45 degree hip turn in and 90 degree shoulder turn and i hit the ball a long way. The stuff he was telling me was wrong was crazy he wanted me to get my left foot way off the ground so i could get a 60 degree turn in my hips with my left knee almost touching my right. I don't know if he wanted to wreck my conifdence so i would come running back to him or though he would never see me again and wanted to wreck my swing but i was very close to walking out half way thru. The final straw was when i said but that is causing my right knee to straighten which i had been working on for the last 6 months with the other pro and he goes ah that will happen but it helps to get your hips open. Find a pro who seems to be talking sense and try a few before you comitt to a long term project with one.
Mike

Kinsealy Grange I think you mean!

Hijpo

Went for 18 holes, alot more consistant and alot more confident with my irons and even 3 wood off the tee. Shots are going straight, some with a little draw, i had a couple of duffs and a few bad ones off the tee but no where near as much.

Before it could go from hitting ground first to topping the ball and then catching it completely thin with my irons and off the tee it could go anywhere from serious slices to catching the ground first where as now the mistakes were consitant as in off the tee they all came off the heel and when i duffed my irons it was because i cought the ground first.
Compared to the random problems i had before its a step in the right direction.

I am pleased

So, anyone want a lesson? hahah

PARlance

GreeBo wrote: »

Kinsealy Grange I think you mean!

I hate the use of this phrase but I did LOL
You and your Grange Greebo