Kilkenny Football

lala88

So Kilkenny football in back in the media. They are pulling out of the league and Minor and Under 21 Championships. We here all the time that theres no interested etc in football however this piece would seem to say otherwise

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=178972

This is the piece about them pulling out

http://www.hoganstand.com/Kilkenny/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=178910

aidan24326

There's interest among a small dedicated group, and you'd have to admire them for keeping it going in the face of such adversity but really the majority of people in Kilkenny don't care. And that doesn't look likely to change.

The players may be peeved that this has happened but then you have to see it from the county board's perspective aswell. That there's little point entering teams in competitions only for them to get hammered by embarrassing scorelines. People can blame the county board for not making more effort with football but I don't think the appetite for it is there amongst Kilkenny people in general.

Donadea Leo

Pretty shocking treatment of players really. I've from across the border in Tipp and there wasn't a lot of football in our club when I was young but we used to go out and play a few games and the odd challenge against our near Kilkenny neighbours and they were no worse than we were.
A bit of work was then put in at under age level and our club contested some underage A grade county finals. There's no reason why that work can't be done in Kilkenny. It's very unfair to players who love gaelic football - and county boards should be promoting participation regardless of the outcome and not just about winning - can't help in this case but feel that too much success can be bad for a county as that's all that matters.

adrian522

Again? Really?

lala88

Donadea Leo wrote: »

Pretty shocking treatment of players really. I've from across the border in Tipp and there wasn't a lot of football in our club when I was young but we used to go out and play a few games and the odd challenge against our near Kilkenny neighbours and they were no worse than we were.
A bit of work was then put in at under age level and our club contested some underage A grade county finals. There's no reason why that work can't be done in Kilkenny. It's very unfair to players who love gaelic football - and county boards should be promoting participation regardless of the outcome and not just about winning - can't help in this case but feel that too much success can be bad for a county as that's all that matters.

Kilkenny people always say what about all the countys that dont promote hurling. Every county (apart from Cavan at the moment) have a senior team playing at some level. I dont understand why they have pulled out of the junior championship though you would think thats the level they would be able to compete at

aidan24326

lala88 wrote: »

cormac halpin would disagree with you on that one

Would you care to elaborate? Linking me to the profile page of someone I've never heard of is hardly helpful, and a quick browse through his post history left me none the wiser.

Davin Stand

I think it is a sad situation that a strong GAA county like Kilkenny is the only county that is unable or unwilling to field a team in the National Football League for 2013. Serious neglect of one of our national games down for many years.

road_high

Oh god not another Kilkenny Football thread thinly disguised as a Kilkenny bashing thread......

lala88

aidan24326 wrote: »

Would you care to elaborate? Linking me to the profile page of someone I've never heard of is hardly helpful, and a quick browse through his post history left me none the wiser.

On the Laois hurling topic he seems to think Laois are better off getting hammered year in year out

aidan24326

lala88 wrote: »

On the Laois hurling topic he seems to think Laois are better off getting hammered year in year out

I really don't understand what you mean. Who is this guy?

lala88

aidan24326 wrote: »

I really don't understand what you mean. Who is this guy?

Hes from Laois (i assume) he thinks Laois are better off playing in the McCarty Cup and getting hammered every year. It was just having a go at him about that

iDave

Never understood the fascination in Kilkenny football but no one gets in a tizzy about the awful state of hurling in over half the country

premierstone

mfitzy wrote: »

Oh god not another Kilkenny Football thread thinly disguised as a Kilkenny bashing thread......

It's a relevant thread and a news item that has featured very heavily in all media outlets over the last few days, I have no problem with them withdrawing thats there perogative, better than entering just to keep face, but why are KK people so sensitive when people discuss it, very similar in hurling tbh, you are only allowed discuss KK in a positive light no criticism will be tolerated :rolleyes:

iDave wrote: »

Never understood the fascination in Kilkenny football but no one gets in a tizzy about the awful state of hurling in over half the country

Cavan are the only county with no hurling team at present and that decision recieved an equal amount of press, it is also of course down to the uniqeness of KK being by far the best hurling team in the country while also being by far the worst football team.

lala88

premierstone wrote: »

It's a relevant thread and a news item that has featured very heavily in all media outlets over the last few days, I have no problem with them withdrawing thats there perogative, better than entering just to keep face, but why are KK people so sensitive when people discuss it, very similar in hurling tbh, you are only allowed discuss KK in a positive light no criticism will be tolerated :rolleyes:



Cavan are the only county with no hurling team at present and that decision recieved an equal amount of press, it is also of course down to the uniqeness of KK being by far the best hurling team in the country while also being by far the worst football team.

The fact they have had so much success in hurling means its easy for them to say theres no interest in football.

road_high

premierstone wrote: »

It's a relevant thread and a news item that has featured very heavily in all media outlets over the last few days, I have no problem with them withdrawing thats there perogative, better than entering just to keep face, but why are KK people so sensitive when people discuss it, very similar in hurling tbh, you are only allowed discuss KK in a positive light no criticism will be tolerated :rolleyes:


Cavan are the only county with no hurling team at present and that decision recieved an equal amount of press, it is also of course down to the uniqeness of KK being by far the best hurling team in the country while also being by far the worst football team.

Why do you care so much then> as nobody in Kilkenny really does. It's our perogaitve, no one elses. But it gets outsiders into a massive tizzy. As it's not a "positive" story as you say.
If threads about Kilkenny football turn you on so much, well you are in the right place

lala88

mfitzy wrote: »

Why do you care so much then> as nobody in Kilkenny really does. It's our perogaitve, no one elses. But it gets outsiders into a massive tizzy. As it's not a "positive" story as you say.
If threads about Kilkenny football turn you on so much, well you are in the right place

The Kilkenny players would seem to care....

premierstone

mfitzy wrote: »

Why do you care so much then> as nobody in Kilkenny really does. It's our perogaitve, no one elses. But it gets outsiders into a massive tizzy. As it's not a "positive" story as you say.
If threads about Kilkenny football turn you on so much, well you are in the right place

I care about all matters relating to the GAA, its why I post on this forum, thanks for asking though although I would have thought the answer was blindingly obvious, do ye not care for education noreside either, is it seen as a distraction from the hurling???

Don't Chute!

If the Kerry, Meath, Mayo, Donegal etc hurlers pulled out this would not have made the national news. I am completely and utterly sick of people whinging and moaning about Kilkenny not playing football, they play and are, presently, the best at the greatest sport on Earth and thats good enough for me.

Professey Chin

iDave wrote: »

Never understood the fascination in Kilkenny football but no one gets in a tizzy about the awful state of hurling in over half the country

I dont like either situation tbh. Id rather every county be competitive at some level at both sports

lala88

black and amber wrote: »

If the Kerry, Meath, Mayo, Donegal etc hurlers pulled out this would not have made the national news. I am completely and utterly sick of people whinging and moaning about Kilkenny not playing football, they play and are, presently, the best at the greatest sport on Earth and thats good enough for me.

The key word there being ''if'' they dont pull out of anything they field a teams and make some kind of effort the same cant be said for Kilkenny. Like i said already its easy for you to say what you say when Kilkenny have had so much success in hurling had they not you would be saying otherwise

ShamoBuc

This old chestnut again. Might stay away from it this time - all that was needed to be said has been said before I think.

Syferus

black and amber wrote: »

If the Kerry, Meath, Mayo, Donegal etc hurlers pulled out this would not have made the national news. I am completely and utterly sick of people whinging and moaning about Kilkenny not playing football, they play and are, presently, the best at the greatest sport on Earth and thats good enough for me.

What sort of warped reality is that? Cavan pulling out of inter-county hurling made big national news and they were far worse off at hurling than Kerry, Mayo, Meath and Donegal. It highlights your lack of knowledge of hurling in other counties when you group one of the strongest Christy Ring counties (Kerry) in a list of presumed 'weak' counties.

The martyism you're representing your county with does it no favours.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Surely they'll continue to field a team at Junior. They'd made progress recently, beating Wexford in the championship last year if I remember correctly.

Black Suir

aidan24326 wrote: »

There's interest among a small dedicated group, and you'd have to admire them for keeping it going in the face of such adversity but really the majority of people in Kilkenny don't care. And that doesn't look likely to change.

The players may be peeved that this has happened but then you have to see it from the county board's perspective aswell. That there's little point entering teams in competitions only for them to get hammered by embarrassing scorelines. People can blame the county board for not making more effort with football but I don't think the appetite for it is there amongst Kilkenny people in general.

By are they going to send them over to take park in the British Championships. Wont that cost them more in the long run, with the costs of Bus' ferries or planes.

aidan24326

mfitzy wrote: »

Why do you care so much then> as nobody in Kilkenny really does. It's our perogaitve, no one elses. But it gets outsiders into a massive tizzy. As it's not a "positive" story as you say.

It seems to me that it's only yourself and other Kilkenny posters that are getting in a 'tizzy' over it.

Black Suir wrote: »

By are they going to send them over to take park in the British Championships. Wont that cost them more in the long run, with the costs of Bus' ferries or planes.

It will be expensive I'd imagine. The GAA are going to help pay for it though. Whether it will work out remains to be seen but I suppose at least the GAA are trying to find some compromise for the Kilkenny footballers rather than the untenable situation that existed up to now.

bruschi

aidan24326 wrote: »

It seems to me that it's only yourself and other Kilkenny posters that are getting in a 'tizzy' over it.




It will be expensive I'd imagine. The GAA are going to help pay for it though. Whether it will work out remains to be seen but I suppose at least the GAA are trying to find some compromise for the Kilkenny footballers rather than the untenable situation that existed up to now.

it wont work, it wont even come close to working. Kilkenny club football is played usually in January - March when teams are warming up for their hurling season. Its got out of the way good and early so there is no conflict witht he hurling season. You put their county football in the middle of their club hurling and it will make a mess of things. Players wont bother with it. As it is, a lot of them would chose club hurling over county football, this will only reinforce that mantra.

lala88

Syferus wrote: »

What sort of warped reality is that? Cavan pulling out of inter-county hurling made big national news and they were far worse off at hurling than Kerry, Mayo, Meath and Donegal. It highlights your lack of knowledge of hurling in other counties when you group one of the strongest Christy Ring counties (Kerry) in a list of presumed 'weak' counties.

The martyism you're representing your county with does it no favours.

Meath and Donegal are also quite strong at there own levels aswell so really he picked the worst examples he could

Martin567

Syferus wrote: »

black and amber wrote: »

If the Kerry, Meath, Mayo, Donegal etc hurlers pulled out this would not have made the national news. I am completely and utterly sick of people whinging and moaning about Kilkenny not playing football, they play and are, presently, the best at the greatest sport on Earth and thats good enough for me.

What sort of warped reality is that? Cavan pulling out of inter-county hurling made big national news and they were far worse off at hurling than Kerry, Mayo, Meath and Donegal. It highlights your lack of knowledge of hurling in other counties when you group one of the strongest Christy Ring counties (Kerry) in a list of presumed 'weak' counties.

The martyism you're representing your county with does it no favours.

This is the most warped thinking of all. Mayo & Donegal are as far away from playing in the Liam McCarthy as Kilkenny are from ever being competitive at football. They are also both far bigger counties than Kilkenny. It is Kilkenny's misfortune that they have no one to play at their own level in football while the many weak hurling counties can just play amongst themselves. It is fair to discuss the poor state of Kilkenny football but completely wrong to think that it is any different than the state of hurling in nearly half the country.

Martin567

lala88 wrote: »

Syferus wrote: »

What sort of warped reality is that? Cavan pulling out of inter-county hurling made big national news and they were far worse off at hurling than Kerry, Mayo, Meath and Donegal. It highlights your lack of knowledge of hurling in other counties when you group one of the strongest Christy Ring counties (Kerry) in a list of presumed 'weak' counties.

The martyism you're representing your county with does it no favours.

Meath and Donegal are also quite strong at there own levels aswell so really he picked the worst examples he could

As I have explained many, many times before, this "competing at their own level" point is the most brain dead argument put forward on this issue. It simply makes no sense.

randd1

I'm from Kilkenny. I like football, its a good game, a great sport and when I played it when I was younger it was fun to play. I love watching football on the telly, even though some matches are a chore and I have to turn them off.

But given a choice of playing a football match and pucking the ball around the field with a few of the lads, football will always lose out. My brother refuses to play any football whatsoever simply because he's playing Junior A, so there's no chance of any of the senior players playing. Some of my friends, who are mad hurling lads and follow it religiously, won't even look at a football match on the telly.

That's the truth. You can't really have people play a sport competitively if there's no desire for it. As long as hurling is in Kilkenny, football will never mean anything, its just who we are. If lads are more willing to play Junior B than football, then you can't expect football to gain a foothold.

The best analogy I can give is football is to Kilkenny what cricket is to Crossmaglen.

Now, would we be having this debate if Kilkenny were not so successful? Probably not.
Now, would we be having this debate if the the football championship, when all the focus is on the better sides, was still going on? Probably not.
Also, if this debate is dragged up every year, why is there not a similar debate on half the counties treatment of hurling? Because football is the bigger sport, has more of a media profile. Also Kilkenny are only one county is treating football so badly whereas half the counties in the country treat hurling the same way so there's safety in numbers for those counties.

lala88

randd1 wrote: »

I'm from Kilkenny. I like football, its a good game, a great sport and when I played it when I was younger it was fun to play. I love watching football on the telly, even though some matches are a chore and I have to turn them off.

But given a choice of playing a football match and pucking the ball around the field with a few of the lads, football will always lose out. My brother refuses to play any football whatsoever simply because he's playing Junior A, so there's no chance of any of the senior players playing. Some of my friends, who are mad hurling lads and follow it religiously, won't even look at a football match on the telly.

That's the truth. You can't really have people play a sport competitively if there's no desire for it. As long as hurling is in Kilkenny, football will never mean anything, its just who we are. If lads are more willing to play Junior B than football, then you can't expect football to gain a foothold.

The best analogy I can give is football is to Kilkenny what cricket is to Crossmaglen.

Now, would we be having this debate if Kilkenny were not so successful? Probably not.
Now, would we be having this debate if the the football championship, when all the focus is on the better sides, was still going on? Probably not.
Also, if this debate is dragged up every year, why is there not a similar debate on half the counties treatment of hurling? Because football is the bigger sport, has more of a media profile. Also Kilkenny are only one county is treating football so badly whereas half the counties in the country treat hurling the same way so there's safety in numbers for those counties.

Like its been said before Cavan are the only county with no senior hurling team every other team make some kind of effort. When Cavan pulled out there hurling teams there was a lot of media coverage about it (something most Kilkenny people turn a blind eye to).

The likes of Kerry, Westmeath, Carlow and even Kildare and Roscommon to name a few have made progress at hurling over the last wile. Kerry could just a easy do the same to hurling that Kilkenny do to football but they dont they make some kind of effort.

lala88

Martin567 wrote: »

This is the most warped thinking of all. Mayo & Donegal are as far away from playing in the Liam McCarthy as Kilkenny are from ever being competitive at football. They are also both far bigger counties than Kilkenny. It is Kilkenny's misfortune that they have no one to play at their own level in football while the many weak hurling counties can just play amongst themselves. It is fair to discuss the poor state of Kilkenny football but completely wrong to think that it is any different than the state of hurling in nearly half the country.

No one is saying they are apart from you. The point is they are fielding teams and making some sort of effort at hurling something Kilkenny aren't doing. So the state of Kilkenny football is different to hurling in other countys, like i said its easy for Kilkenny people to use that as a way to dismiss football

aidan24326

bruschi wrote: »

it wont work, it wont even come close to working.

I'd be inclined to agree. It's clutching at straws really.

Martin567 wrote: »

This is the most warped thinking of all. Mayo & Donegal are as far away from playing in the Liam McCarthy as Kilkenny are from ever being competitive at football.

That's not the point though. The fact is that most counties in hurling are competitive at their own level, Mayo and Donegal included. No-one is expecting Kilkenny footballers to be taking on Kerry any more than we'd expect Donegal hurlers to play Kilkenny.

But it ought not be asking too much that they'd field a team that could be reasonably competitve in division 4, against the might of Leitrim and Carlow. When you're losing to these teams by 25 points it's probably time to just give it up, and this thing of moving them to some UK Championship is merely flogging a dead horse I think.

lala88

Kilkenny teams pull out of Leinster club IFC and JFC
12 October 2012
Following the news that Kilkenny have withdrawn from the Allianz FL, their club football winners will not participate in this year's Leinster club competitions.

The senior and intermediate champions take part in the provincial intermediate and junior competitions, and were included when this year's draw took place.

Leinster Council today informed that the Cat's representatives will not fulfil their fixtures.

The Kilkenny senior champions were due to play a Carlow side in the Leinster club IFC first round, but the Carlow side will now play the Kildare champions in a quarter-final.

The Cat's intermediate winners had a bye to the Leinster club JFC quarter-final. Their exit means that the first round winners from the game between Kilcormac/Killoughey (Offaly) and Ratoath (Meath) go straight into a semi-final.

Martin567

aidan24326 wrote: »

bruschi wrote: »

it wont work, it wont even come close to working.

I'd be inclined to agree. It's clutching at straws really.

Martin567 wrote: »

This is the most warped thinking of all. Mayo & Donegal are as far away from playing in the Liam McCarthy as Kilkenny are from ever being competitive at football.

That's not the point though. The fact is that most counties in hurling are competitive at their own level, Mayo and Donegal included. No-one is expecting Kilkenny footballers to be taking on Kerry any more than we'd expect Donegal hurlers to play Kilkenny.

But it ought not be asking too much that they'd field a team that could be reasonably competitve in division 4, against the might of Leitrim and Carlow. When you're losing to these teams by 25 points it's probably time to just give it up, and this thing of moving them to some UK Championship is merely flogging a dead horse I think.

I recognise your user name from a lot of other threads so I assume you are a genuine poster and not just some guy trying to wind up a few Kilkenny people and getting a great laugh out of it.

I have never defended the state of football in Kilkenny. It is what it is because so few people care as another poster has already outlined in greater depth. I'm not sure there is a solution. I'm very much a single issue person on this argument and that issue is the ludicrous point made by so many people and again by yourself above. That issue is the point about the weak hurling counties being competitive "at their own level" and that this is "all" that is being asked of Kilkenny at football. Any fair minded GAA person from any county will know that that statement is complete nonsense.

I'm not going to explain it all again because I'm fed up repeating myself. You can work it out yourself anyway by looking at the four divisions of the NHL & the NFL and also by looking at the teams who compete for Sam & Liam. You can also remember that Carlow drew with Meath in Leinster this year. Meath were Leinster champions in 2010.

Criticise Kilkenny football if you want but please cut out the nonsense that about a dozen counties are not just as bad at hurling. Clearly football is stronger than hurling in far more counties and views like yours only confirm that that is the status quo and is as it should be. Kilkenny are alone in being so weak at football so it is apparently imperative that they should be able to compete with the next weakest. There are many weak hurling teams but they are apparently doing their bit just by competing with each other. This is utterly warped thinking and complete double standards.

purplepanda

The question is now how many counties are going to follow suit & pull out of the NHL & although not likely soon the NFL?

In Hurling Leitrim could be a candidate with their low population base, Sligo is another country where Hurling is rare, Fermanagh have just been promoted so they will be OK for now at least.

Football D4 is a lot more competitive for now, Kilkenny are well behind any potential rivals.

Another concern is counties like Kildare & Meath with bigger populations who should really be challenging in Hurling, also the decline of Laois who should really would be traditional "dual county"

It's a slippery slope & now the genie is out of the bottle, some counties would like to concentrate on either Hurling or Football if they could get away with it! :rolleyes:

jimbo79

football is considered an inferior sport in kilkenny by the hurling crowd, to give an example of this, last year the kilkenny football final was plaayed on a wed night in the middle of winter and not even in the county grounds, this sends out a clear message to any young fella considering playing football, you can play but we will make sure you know you are a second class citizen

Mary Earnest

Nice to see people concerned with reasonableness and Kilkenny football. Based on populations pro rata to Kilkenny, Dublin should field 12 county teams in hurling and football and Cork field 5 of each. Maybe Tipp could field North & South Riding teams. Come to think of it, proportional representation in each code by use of force just might be the way forward for the GAA.

phkk

Just back from watching two championship club games, one senior and one intermediate. There must have been two thousand/2,500 at both games, huge interest in all levels of club hurling naturally. Just reading through match programme and I noticed that 4/5 county footballers can't make their club hurling team and this is the problem. The lesser lights are the only ones putting themselves forward for the county team to avail of free gear,meals etc while the best footballers stay far away, Our club teams can compete in Leinster intermediate championship namely Railyard,Erins Own, Muckalee but the best footballers are the best hurlers who have no interest in the county game and this is the inherent problem.
I don't agree with what co board have done at all. They are not promoting the game and getting the best players to tog out. I see where that they have entered the British championship. You will see some interest now because some players will already be thinking about going on the piss for the weekend in Birminngham or wherever it's on!

DEFTLEFTHAND

I suppose people forget just how small Kilkenny is, taking into account how fanatical people are about hurling and how successful they are you can see why all their efforts focus on the small ball.

Bigger Counties like neighbouring Tipp can develop their football easier, especially when you consider the history of south Tipp where football has always been bigger than hurling.

Arawn

Speaking as someone who played football for kilkennys underage football team, between the lack of effort from the coaches to the hammering you just lose the will to play

Realt Dearg Sec

phkk wrote: »

Just back from watching two championship club games, one senior and one intermediate. There must have been two thousand/2,500 at both games, huge interest in all levels of club hurling naturally. Just reading through match programme and I noticed that 4/5 county footballers can't make their club hurling team and this is the problem. The lesser lights are the only ones putting themselves forward for the county team to avail of free gear,meals etc while the best footballers stay far away, Our club teams can compete in Leinster intermediate championship namely Railyard,Erins Own, Muckalee but the best footballers are the best hurlers who have no interest in the county game and this is the inherent problem.
I don't agree with what co board have done at all. They are not promoting the game and getting the best players to tog out. I see where that they have entered the British championship. You will see some interest now because some players will already be thinking about going on the piss for the weekend in Birminngham or wherever it's on!

The article with JJ Grace was pointing out that the compeition will be played in June (which makes sense), but of course the Kilkenny hurling championship plays a few rounds at that time, so no decent hurler (which is to say, most anyone likely to be worth having on the football team) will travel. They'll probably get pasted in Britain too.

Don't Chute!

lala88 wrote: »

Meath and Donegal are also quite strong at there own levels aswell so really he picked the worst examples he could

lads, this is utter nonsense as has been pointed out since

lala88

black and amber wrote: »

lads, this is utter nonsense as has been pointed out since

care to explain how?

Martin567

lala88 wrote: »

black and amber wrote: »

lads, this is utter nonsense as has been pointed out since

care to explain how?

Read all of this thread. Read every other thread that has ever existed on this topic. Look at the four divisions of the NHL & the NFL. Look at how many teams compete in the All Ireland football and compare that to hurling.

If you do all of that and still can't understand what is the equivalent of 2+2=4 then you really should go away and comment on things you know something about. I have explained this so many times before and I don't propose to do so again.

tomasdubh

Lads, be careful what you wish for! I have no reason to suppose that Kilkenny people are going to turn into football fans, as long as hurling exists. But imagine if they did! If the county board decided to pay the same singleminded attention to football, as they do to hurling now, I'd expect a similar result - half the country complaining that Kilkenny are killing football@ But don't worry, it's never going to happen, Kilkenny will stick to what they're good at.

dzer2

jimbo79 wrote: »

football is considered an inferior sport in kilkenny by the hurling crowd, to give an example of this, last year the kilkenny football final was plaayed on a wed night in the middle of winter and not even in the county grounds, this sends out a clear message to any young fella considering playing football, you can play but we will make sure you know you are a second class citizen

Thats not fair but is correct There are no lights in Nowlan park so it had to be played outside of the park in ballyragget as we have the only other set of lights in the north of the county also we had to get a result as the winners were out in leinster the following weekend. It spilled rain that night you couldnt see the other end of the pitch. Any other night it would have being called off. The last time a ball was kicked in earnest in the county was back in May.

Davin Stand

I believe that the Kilkenny County Board have now withdrawn their Club Champions from the Leinster Intermediate and Junior Club Football Championships. They really have no shame where the treatment of football is concerned.
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bruschi

Davin Stand wrote: »

I believe that the Kilkenny County Board have now withdrawn their Club Champions from the Leinster Intermediate and Junior Club Football Championships. They really have no shame where the treatment of football is concerned.
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better than wasting time of other clubs who if they had to travel and dish out a hammering and it isnt worth the time and effort. Like Louth this year in the U21, travelling down to Kilkenny on a Wednesday night and give them an unmerciful beating. Does absolutely no one any good.

dzer2

Davin Stand wrote: »

I believe that the Kilkenny County Board have now withdrawn their Club Champions from the Leinster Intermediate and Junior Club Football Championships. They really have no shame where the treatment of football is concerned.
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Again you are correct we havent even played the first round of the championship there is no way we will have champions to play in the leinster football Championship in mid november the hurling is on next weekend and the following weekend the semis are on the Hurling final is scheduled for the weekend 11th november. This years football will only start after that as mostof the footballers play hurling and the favourites for the football will be involved up to the semi final and at least 2 of the semi finalists in the hurling will be on the same side of the football draw. It is nearly impossible to get this done. Its only fair that the teams playing football get their full compliments of players for the championship.

Davin Stand

dzer2 wrote: »

Again you are correct we havent even played the first round of the championship there is no way we will have champions to play in the leinster football Championship in mid november the hurling is on next weekend and the following weekend the semis are on the Hurling final is scheduled for the weekend 11th november. This years football will only start after that as mostof the footballers play hurling and the favourites for the football will be involved up to the semi final and at least 2 of the semi finalists in the hurling will be on the same side of the football draw. It is nearly impossible to get this done. Its only fair that the teams playing football get their full compliments of players for the championship.

To day is the 16th October and the 1st Round of the Kilkenny Senior Football Championship has not yet been played!!. I repeat that the Kilkenny County Board have no shame in the way they treat football. They really are taking the p===.