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Thinking outside the envelope.

  • 06-10-2012 9:22am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭


    Was once advised to think outside the envelope.How would I go about this or has anybody got any examples of this kind of thinking?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,975 ✭✭✭W.Shakes-Beer


    Think about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 901 ✭✭✭ChunkyLover_53


    Is it not "Push the Envelope" & "Think outside the Box"

    I think whoever has said this to you OP has them confused.

    Its only acceptable to think outside the envelope if you're that Chinese guy who posted himself to his GF & it went belly up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    kneemos wrote: »
    Was once advised to think outside the envelope.How would I go about this or has anybody got any examples of this kind of thinking?

    They wanted you to be more frank.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭cloptrop


    Get your head out the post box man . 9 eleven changed everything .


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What's got e at the beginning, e at the end, and has a letter in the middle?

    An envelope.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭daddydick


    What's got e at the beginning, e at the end, and has a letter in the middle?

    An envelope.

    What has b at the beginning, n at the end and an arse in the middle?

    Boneyarsebogman


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    kneemos wrote: »
    Was once advised to think outside the envelope.How would I go about this or has anybody got any examples of this kind of thinking?

    Two examples (made up I think by someone) of stories I heard.

    1.
    Lorry going under a bridge gets stuck.
    Garda, firecrew and others stand around scratching their heads as wondering how to get the jammed truck out.
    They are considering getting equipment to jack up and raise the height of the bridge from underneith (might damage bridge), or try forcing the truck out by pushing at the back and pulling at the front (might further damage bridge and truck).

    Kid comes alone walking and says "Why don't they just let the air out of the tyres?"

    2.
    People standing around a hole/road grate looking into it.
    In the hole/grate deep down is a key (other versions say pet frog) resting on a leaf.
    All are trying to grab by reaching down, trying to get the item for someone waiting above anxiously.
    They try using long sticks, wire, etc... No joy.

    Kid comes along (this ruddy kid is everywhere - ruddy superman!), looks into the hole/grate and says to all there:
    "Why don't ye just carefully pour lots of water in and raise the level of the leaf up, so you can then grab your key/pet frog!"


    I suppose the above simple examples is what might be considered thinking outside the envelope/box.

    Hope that helps. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Is it not "Push the Envelope" & "Think outside the Box"

    I think whoever has said this to you OP has them confused.

    Its only acceptable to think outside the envelope if you're that Chinese guy who posted himself to his GF & it went belly up

    Maybe so but that's the way it was phrased.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    What's got e at the beginning, e at the end, and has a letter in the middle?

    An envelope.
    What's hairy on the outside, moist on the inside, begins with a C, ends with an T and has the letters U abd N in it...



    A coconut


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    daddydick wrote: »
    What has b at the beginning, n at the end and an arse in the middle?

    Boneyarsebogman

    Lowercase b, dangnambit.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭Ronin247


    daddydick wrote: »
    What has b at the beginning, n at the end and an arse in the middle?

    Boneyarsebogman

    What has daddy at the start and dick at the back........Elton John...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,285 ✭✭✭bonzodog2


    I love mixed metaphors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Biggins wrote: »
    2.
    People standing around a hole/road grate looking into it.
    In the hole/grate deep down is a key (other versions say pet frog) resting on a leaf.
    All are trying to grab by reaching down, trying to get the item for someone waiting above anxiously.
    They try using long sticks, wire, etc... No joy.

    Kid comes along (this ruddy kid is everywhere - ruddy superman!), looks into the hole/grate and says to all there:
    "Why don't ye just carefully pour lots of water in and raise the level of the leaf up, so you can then grab your key/pet frog!"

    Not a hope of that working, though...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Not a hope of that working, though...

    Probably not but its was (I think!) supposed to be a simple example of thinking beyond usual ways - even if a way don't eventually work. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    Biggins wrote: »
    Two examples (made up I think by someone) of stories I heard.

    1.
    Lorry going under a bridge gets stuck.
    Garda, firecrew and others stand around scratching their heads as wondering how to get the jammed truck out.
    They are considering getting equipment to jack up and raise the height of the bridge from underneith (might damage bridge), or try forcing the truck out by pushing at the back and pulling at the front (might further damage bridge and truck).

    Kid comes alone walking and says "Why don't they just let the air out of the tyres?"

    2.
    People standing around a hole/road grate looking into it.
    In the hole/grate deep down is a key (other versions say pet frog) resting on a leaf.
    All are trying to grab by reaching down, trying to get the item for someone waiting above anxiously.
    They try using long sticks, wire, etc... No joy.

    Kid comes along (this ruddy kid is everywhere - ruddy superman!), looks into the hole/grate and says to all there:
    "Why don't ye just carefully pour lots of water in and raise the level of the leaf up, so you can then grab your key/pet frog!"


    I suppose the above simple examples is what might be considered thinking outside the envelope/box.

    Hope that helps. :)


    Id also add the one where the farmer is trying to get a young bull to go into the trailer so he can take it to market, he tries pushing it, pulling it, he gets his sons to help, none of them can get it to go in as it is scared of going into teh trailer.

    The farmers wife comes along, sees the predicament and goes to the young bull and puts her finger into its mouth, which it tries to suckle for milk, then she calmly walks up the gangplank of the trailer, and the young bull follows her inside.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 85 ✭✭Madam Marie


    A leopard can't change his stripes.
    - Al Gore

    Button your seat belts.
    - Rush Limbaugh

    Now, Senator McCain suggests that somehow, you know, I'm green behind the ears.
    - George Bush.

    No, wait - that last one wasn't Bush, twas in fact .. Obama.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    I would have thought it had to do with brown envelopes being exchanged as a sweetner :wink:


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,591 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    kneemos wrote: »
    Was once advised to think outside the envelope.How would I go about this or has anybody got any examples of this kind of thinking?
    Flight envelope is used to refer to limits of safe flight.

    Going outside these limits is generally regarded as not a good thing, in the wings fall off / fuselage cracks open sense.

    The original U2 spy plane flew so high that the indicated air speed was similar to a glider even though it was flying close to the speed of sound. Flight envelope was only about 5 knots. Turns had to be taken very carefully because you could have one wing tip shaking because it was going through the sound barrier and the other shaking because it was stalling.

    Thinking outside the envelope in a first generation U2 meant changing your air speed by 1% or taking a gentle turn rather than a really gentle turn. Thinking inside the envelope meant that you stayed crusing in your nice warm airplane. Thinking outside the envelope meant that spending years under interrogation in Soviet gulags was by far the best that could happen to you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    I was told to start thinking outside the Envelope once.

    Of course it was when they were firing me from The Envelope nightclub where they said I was the worst barman they'd ever had.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    kneemos wrote: »
    Was once advised to think outside the envelope.How would I go about this or has anybody got any examples of this kind of thinking?


    Thinly veiled blue sky thinking thread going forward


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