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Anyone using the x desk ?

  • 03-10-2012 7:37pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭


    Hey guys...

    Wondering if anyone has used or is using the ssl x desk ?

    My final mix needs a little sparkle and wondering if this might be an option..


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭alan kelly


    Alright man... Cheers for the response.

    Not exactly a glowing report and with nothing from anyone else is not exactly giving huge confidence... A bit surprising since SSL are usually top of the game...

    Its a hard one to judge...


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,378 ✭✭✭fitz


    alan kelly wrote: »
    Alright man... Cheers for the response.

    Not exactly a glowing report and with nothing from anyone else is not exactly giving huge confidence... A bit surprising since SSL are usually top of the game...

    Its a hard one to judge...

    It's just a summing mixer with faders.
    The new RND Portico Master Buss Processor looks the job. Super pricey though...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭peter05


    The RND is prob your best bang for buck, It's veiwed more as a compressor with image adjustments though. Might not be what you want.

    http://rupertneve.com/products/satellite-5059/

    There is lots of summing mixers out there alot to be found in Europe from designers. There are plenty to suit any budget

    Thermionic Culture are near the best in the game, but you need the budget to suit.

    http://vintageking.com/Thermionic-Culture-Fat-Bustard

    Or you could just send it out to be mastered on high end gear;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭alan kelly


    Cheers guys..... Thermionic Culture is way out of the price league..;)

    Have heard good things about the dangerous D box but i prefer the x desk set up with the selection of inserts and other extras that a standard summing box does not have...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭peter05


    Do you just want to sum 2 tracks or all tracks separate?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 444 ✭✭alan kelly


    I have a desk but would like to sum at least 8 tracks... With maybe a few extra bells or whistles...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 843 ✭✭✭trackmixstudio


    I will second Niall on the Zed-r16.
    I have mine nearly a year and it has brought my mixes up several notches.
    The mic pres are good, the EQ is far better than any plugin I have used and the routing and master section are great.
    The onboard converters are clear and full too.
    Really great value when you think of what it has and think what it would cost to buy 16 pres, 16 channels od AD and DA and 16 analogue EQs, 16 channel analogue summing etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,892 ✭✭✭madtheory


    Personally I think "analogue summing" is a waste of money. It's just distortion, I find that sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. How many different flavours does one need? I guess if it's always phat american rawk you're doing, you'd get more mileage out of it. Plus you have to be mixing with it always on, so it's very difficult to be sure if you've made the mix "better" than it would've been if you mixed without it.

    I've found it doesn't make the decision making process any easier either. The only thing that really does that for you is superb monitoring.

    If you've an iLok 2, check out the Slate VCC demo. It does a great job, and it's a lot cheaper and more flexible than hardware, in that you have more than one "style" of distortion available.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    What sort of bread are we talking about for the er. ZED?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭Bluebirdstudios


    Hi Alan,

    You may want to have a look at the - ams neve 8816 . To give you a quick low down, it has a creamy character to it that can be driven hard to give an edge to the sound. I know that this is just those words again but the point I'm making is that it has personality. Maybe something that 's not for you but might be worth seeing if you can check it out on loan or trial.

    Analogue summing can do wonderful things to a daw based mixed, I think
    people may be guilty of expecting too much from them and when used subtly can deliver rewarding results. The cost - only you can decide if its worth it.

    Sadly I'd check with other users re RND- I have 6 of those portico's units, everyone of them has been to the doctors and back again. First there was a power supply problem then a switching issue. In fairness I bought these units 4 years ago so lets hope this problems have been resolved. But 6 out of 6 is bad.

    To finish on the x desk - The ssl sound is renowed for its excellent headroom and open clear sound. So if you like things to sound open and 3d with sweet non brittle top end, maybe the X desk is also worth a look.
    Dec.


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