Pig slurry

1chippy

Looking into spreding pig slurry at the moment accross ground as i close up the fields for winter. I'm not up to speed on the regs that go with nitrates directive. my teagasc advisor is on leave and i currently dont know what amounts if any i,m allowed to bring in. I know i wont get the full benefits of it spreading now, but its free. anyone any idea on what i have to do? Cheers 1chippy

bob charles

1chippy wrote: »

Looking into spreding pig slurry at the moment accross ground as i close up the fields for winter. I'm not up to speed on the regs that go with nitrates directive. my teagasc advisor is on leave and i currently dont know what amounts if any i,m allowed to bring in. I know i wont get the full benefits of it spreading now, but its free. anyone any idea on what i have to do? Cheers 1chippy

firstly what was your N/kgs/ha that you got for the first eight months. you will have being sent this a while back, if you are under 170kgs N/ha for the year, most of the time you will be allowed to import. Then depending on your county council and how "friendly" you are with them/ they are with you - they may demand a Nutrient Management Plan to show exactly where you are spreading and your not going over legal limits and also looking for soil tests/crops etc, also factor into this the local do gooder neighbour that will tell the whole community that pig slurry will kill them all and next thing, everyone hate you:D, at this point last 5k gallons everywhere to really piss them off:D, eventually you will say to your self that its cheaper to buy artifical stuff.

So it can be very easy or a pain in the bullocks depending on how much of a pain your county council/neighbours are. My best crops were usually after pig slurry, currently not permitted to import it though due to mix of the above

1chippy

Cheers Bob. i have been onto teagasc and they are to get back to me later. I definately dont get on with the environmental officer in our area. Neighbours in general should be ok and if not manageable. i was going to use the injection method so hopefully should keep the smells down a bit.

reilig

1chippy wrote: »

Looking into spreding pig slurry at the moment accross ground as i close up the fields for winter. I'm not up to speed on the regs that go with nitrates directive. my teagasc advisor is on leave and i currently dont know what amounts if any i,m allowed to bring in. I know i wont get the full benefits of it spreading now, but its free. anyone any idea on what i have to do? Cheers 1chippy

We import 40k to 50k gallons per year from local pig farm. They sort all of the paperwork for us. We just give them the Nitrates statement and a copy of the maps. Have a chat with the guy that you intend importing it from, he should be able to point you in the right direction at least.

bob charles

reilig wrote: »

We import 40k to 50k gallons per year from local pig farm. They sort all of the paperwork for us. We just give them the Nitrates statement and a copy of the maps. Have a chat with the guy that you intend importing it from, he should be able to point you in the right direction at least.

oh yeah forgot to say would have to be on their land bank for their IPCC licence if importing pig slurry. Reilig did they do a nutrient management plan for you? different parts of the country require different paperwork even though this shouldnt be the case. I never get much of a smell from pig slurry and applying with splashplate on a damp day should result in very little smell. Just be careful pig slurry is complete water and will travel very easily if tanks etc are not up to scratch. I have being trying to sort out a case local where a builder forgot to plug one of the shuttering holes in a tank and some slurry disappeared and reappeared if you get my drift.

reilig

bob charles wrote: »

oh yeah forgot to say would have to be on their land bank for their IPCC licence if importing pig slurry. Reilig did they do a nutrient management plan for you? different parts of the country require different paperwork even though this shouldnt be the case. I never get much of a smell from pig slurry and applying with splashplate on a damp day should result in very little smell. Just be careful pig slurry is complete water and will travel very easily if tanks etc are not up to scratch. I have being trying to sort out a case local where a builder forgot to plug one of the shuttering holes in a tank and some slurry disappeared and reappeared if you get my drift.

They never did a nutrient management plan. Don't know if they should have or not. Have been getting slurry for 10 years now and never had a problem with regs. Its handy for us, they draw it with the lorry and tanker and fill it into the slatted tanks. We then spread it out as we have bare ground.

J DEERE

How much does it cost you to get the slurry delivered Reilig?

reilig

J DEERE wrote: »

How much does it cost you to get the slurry delivered Reilig?

Cost? They should be paying me

They deliver for free within 10 miles of the pig farm - I'm exactly 10 miles. They used to spread for people with tractor and 2000g tanker, but they would always do the nearest people to the pig farm first and they never really got as far as us. So we started to empty our tanks in March and then in June, when everyone would have grass growing on land, they would be glad to bring it to us. This year they arrived with a 6000g tanker on a lorry -they recon it is the cheapest way. Tanker is 48ft long and you need lots of space to get him in to the yard - guess it rules out some lads with narrow roads and small yards

Its a good saving on fertilizer every year.

1chippy

got back on to teagasc and we are going to get 20k gallons and spread on a field for now. will wait till spring to fill up the tanks.

lakill Farm

i hauled pig slurry 2 years ago and didnt touch any this year.

But i priced a local pig place kiernans and they charge €15 - 30 a load for 5000G delivered.

J DEERE

reilig wrote: »

Cost? They should be paying me

They deliver for free within 10 miles of the pig farm - I'm exactly 10 miles. They used to spread for people with tractor and 2000g tanker, but they would always do the nearest people to the pig farm first and they never really got as far as us. So we started to empty our tanks in March and then in June, when everyone would have grass growing on land, they would be glad to bring it to us. This year they arrived with a 6000g tanker on a lorry -they recon it is the cheapest way. Tanker is 48ft long and you need lots of space to get him in to the yard - guess it rules out some lads with narrow roads and small yards

Its a good saving on fertilizer every year.

Anytime I looked into getting pig slurry it was almost uneconomical to do so. How do you find it as fertiliser? Would you rate it better than cattle slurry?

pakalasa

At the Oakpark event guideline value figures for slurry based on today's fertiliser prices were:

• 1,000ga of pig slurry, 4pc dry matter, equated one bag of 19-7-20 or about €28.
• 1,000ga of cattle slurry, 5pc dry matter, equated to one bag of 5-4-28 or about €21.

From;
http://www.independent.ie/farming/slurry-biodigestion-produces-a-winwin-situation-for-farmers-and-is-a-process-worth-pursuing-2569385.html

freedominacup

J DEERE wrote: »

Anytime I looked into getting pig slurry it was almost uneconomical to do so. How do you find it as fertiliser? Would you rate it better than cattle slurry?

Different product completely. We would almost never spread cattle slurry on grass. Most of our cattle slurry goes on tillage ground. We would spread around 4000 gals/acre on grass ground over the summer roughly 2k at a time instead of straight N. Just been through it with Teagasc advisor in the past few days and we're OK, marginally. We have only spread around 3 tonnes of 18-6-12 in the past 5 years usually on corn but occasionally on some of the wetter grass paddocks in a year like this one.

We would generally get around 3 loads every 2 hours with a 2000 gal tank from the farm we import from so €80/hour is not bad payment.

If you are grazing shortly after spreading slurry from sow houses is better in our experience, seems to be slightly higher N. If spreading for silage or during a long rotation fattener is best again in our opinion. Not particularly scientific.

Manoffeeling

lakill Farm wrote: »

i hauled pig slurry 2 years ago and didnt touch any this year.

But i priced a local pig place kiernans and they charge €15 - 30 a load for 5000G delivered.

That seems ok if not too watery

richie123

Manoffeeling wrote: »

That seems ok if not too watery

its costing us 60 euro a load delivered for 6000 gallons some difference eh

Dont be daft

freedominacup wrote: »

Different product completely. We would almost never spread cattle slurry on grass. Most of our cattle slurry goes on tillage ground. We would spread around 4000 gals/acre on grass ground over the summer roughly 2k at a time instead of straight N. Just been through it with Teagasc advisor in the past few days and we're OK, marginally. We have only spread around 3 tonnes of 18-6-12 in the past 5 years usually on corn but occasionally on some of the wetter grass paddocks in a year like this one.

We would generally get around 3 loads every 2 hours with a 2000 gal tank from the farm we import from so €80/hour is not bad payment.

If you are grazing shortly after spreading slurry from sow houses is better in our experience, seems to be slightly higher N. If spreading for silage or during a long rotation fattener is best again in our opinion. Not particularly scientific.

Same as ourselves. We almost went the whole year without spreading any fertiliser at all but went with a small bit as the weather broke in September, mostly on silage ground.

We fing pig slurry is brilliant on grass. Much better than cattle slurry. Perfect example was a field getting spread a few weeks back, piggery closed at 6pm and the field had to be finished with cattle slurry.
There's literally a streak of light green grass beside dark green grass, from the two different slurries.

Dont know how the economics would stack up if we were paying for it but as it stands its saving us thousands.

20silkcut

Was spreading pig slurry today for the first time it barely marks the ground at all granted I was spreading in fairly strong growth but its a lot cleaner than cattle slurry difficult to get the overlaps right.

epfff

20silkcut wrote: »

Was spreading pig slurry today for the first time it barely marks the ground at all granted I was spreading in fairly strong growth but its a lot cleaner than cattle slurry difficult to get the overlaps right.

Can anyone tell me where i Can get pig slurry delivered
Athlone area

td5man

epfff wrote: »

Can anyone tell me where i Can get pig slurry delivered
Athlone area

Dont say that too loudly or you'll get more than you can cope with.

epfff

td5man wrote: »

Dont say that too loudly or you'll get more than you can cope with.

Hopefully
But still no answer or offer
Wouldn't mind but I'd pay for haulage

td5man

epfff wrote: »

Hopefully
But still no answer or offer
Wouldn't mind but I'd pay for haulage

The local piggery was ringing yesterday to see if i could take some, theyre hauling it a long distance atm.

TUBBY

epfff wrote: »

Can anyone tell me where i Can get pig slurry delivered
Athlone area

brady in carrickboy outside ballymahon will deliver to you epfff.