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Foundation Course in Psychotherapy

  • 28-09-2012 9:47am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭


    Hi,

    I have an interview for a foundation course in Psychotherapy in the Tivoli Institute this evening. Can anyone tell me what to expect?? Im a bit nervous!


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭Jan Hus


    Psychotherapy is pseudscience - don't take it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭JuliusCaesar


    Jan Hus wrote: »
    Psychotherapy is pseudscience - don't take it.

    Neither helpful nor evidential...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭hotspur


    Neither helpful nor evidential...

    Psychotherapy or that post?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭Hoochiemama


    Jan Hus wrote: »
    Psychotherapy is pseudscience - don't take it.

    I didnt ask for you to tell me what to do with my life. I asked for opinions on people who had completed this course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭JuliusCaesar


    Neither helpful nor evidential...
    hotspur wrote: »
    Psychotherapy or that post?

    I'm presuming you're being disingenuous? ..... I hope! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭Jan Hus


    Psychotherapy is dangerous rubbish. The central part of the theory is some form of infantile sexuality - none of that has ever been shown. If you are a Jungian the evidence is even worse. The Oedipus complex is nonsense - and as for the Electra complex...
    In the USA a doctor was sent to jail for maltreating a patient based on Freudian practices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭JuliusCaesar


    Jan Hus wrote: »
    Psychotherapy is dangerous rubbish. The central part of the theory is some form of infantile sexuality - none of that has ever been shown. If you are a Jungian the evidence is even worse. The Oedipus complex is nonsense - and as for the Electra complex...
    In the USA a doctor was sent to jail for maltreating a patient based on Freudian practices.

    Reference? Evidence to back up statements? Links?

    ..................Or just trolling in psychology?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭Jan Hus



    Reference? Evidence to back up statements? Links?

    ..................Or just trolling in psychology?
    I would suggest you take an introductory course in psychology. While some evidence has been found that psychotherapy is more effective than spontaneous remission (the controlling factor in psychology, a bit like the placebo effect) the findings are exactly the same for the humanist approach. Clearly it is talking over problems that is causing the remission, not the Freudian rubbish.

    Sources: A course in psychology.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭JuliusCaesar


    Jan Hus wrote: »
    I would suggest you take an introductory course in psychology. While some evidence has been found that psychotherapy is more effective than spontaneous remission (the controlling factor in psychology, a bit like the placebo effect) the findings are exactly the same for the humanist approach. Clearly it is talking over problems that is causing the remission, not the Freudian rubbish.

    Sources: A course in psychology.

    err... I am a psychologist. Have undertaken many courses in psychology, and taught on many others. When I say 'references' that's exactly what I mean: solid research that you can cite.

    Spontaneous remission is nothing like the placebo effect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭Velvety


    Jan Hus wrote: »
    I would suggest you take an introductory course in psychology. While some evidence has been found that psychotherapy is more effective than spontaneous remission (the controlling factor in psychology, a bit like the placebo effect) the findings are exactly the same for the humanist approach. Clearly it is talking over problems that is causing the remission, not the Freudian rubbish.

    Sources: A course in psychology.

    I think you're confusing psychotherapy with the psychodynamic approach.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭hotspur


    Jan Hus is a 16 year old btw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭Jan Hus


    err... I am a psychologist. Have undertaken many courses in psychology, and taught on many others. When I say 'references' that's exactly what I mean: solid research that you can cite.

    Spontaneous remission is nothing like the placebo effect.

    Yes it is. Both mess up research into the subject and need to be controlled.

    The book I studied psychology from was "Psychology: A Concise Introduction" by "Richard A. Griggs." It was not in favour of Freud (a poster was correct, I did mix up the psychodynamic approach with psychotherapy as per say, because it is so dominated by it, sorry). It did accept that psychotherapy has its merits though (sorry again for the mistake. I read several of Freud's books about four years back and absolutely loathed them) apparently people who seek psychotherapy are better off than 80% of sufferers, even with spontaneous remission factored in.

    Anyway here is an article from the Guardian : http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/apr/17/psychotherapy-regulation


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd



    Spontaneous remission is nothing like the placebo effect.


    Spontaneous remission is just a way of saying "we have absolutely no idea what happened....they just got better all of a sudden"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭Hoochiemama


    Jan Haus, while I appreciate your input, once again, I was not asking to be told what to do. I have already done an introduction course to Psychology and im doing this course, which is a well recognised IACP course before I go on to do a recognised IACP course in counselling and psychotherapy.

    I have done my research on the course and I am happy with my choice. I came on here to ask for advice on the interview... not to be told what to do with my life.

    The world is full of different people with different opinions and different theories of what works for them. What I choose to do with my life is my choice and my opinion. What you have done with yours is yours.

    Just because something works for you or its something you believe in means it must be the case for all human kind....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭Hoochiemama


    hotspur wrote: »
    Jan Hus is a 16 year old btw.

    I see.... then my quote "Just because something works for you or its something you believe in means it must be the case for all human kind.... " will be a lesson that life will teach him, as it teaches all, as he gets older!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭Jan Hus


    Freud also diagnosed people based on free association. Take your username (I don't believe anything I am about to write so please don't sue me for libel!), Julius Caesar. Caesar was an old man when he began his conquests (well, in his forties or so). He suffered from an inferiority complex with Pompey and even more so with Alexander. He had a nasty dream about his mother one night (Freud wouldn't have missed anything sexual). Freud would have assigned some of these to you - a fixation at the phallic stage (as a psychologist I'm sure you know what that means... I AM NOT SUGGESTING ANY OF THIS TO BE TRUE


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    Jan......have you ever seen, a girl......with all her clothes off :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    Right, enough is enough. KRD come on, your a regular poster you know better. I'm nipping this in the bud before it gets out of hand. Jan Hus you are posting way off topic constanly, keep your posts on topic. No more bad attempts to analyse Mods either.


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