Steps to convert from RC to CofI

Ellsbells

Has anyone converted from Roman Catholic to Church of Ireland? If so, what steps need to be undertaken?

Benny_Cake

This question has been raised a number of times here before (see here). In short, if you were baptised Roman Catholic, the Church of Ireland will recognise that. There should be no problem just going along to services and taking communion if you so wish. I'm sure your local vicar would be happy to answer any questions you may have.

philologos

Ellsbells wrote: »

Has anyone converted from Roman Catholic to Church of Ireland? If so, what steps need to be undertaken?

All you have to do is start showing up at church. Ask your rector to register you in the parish.

Peregrinus

Yup, it's very straightforward. From a CofI perspective, they probably wouldn't even used the word "conversion"; you're just joining an Anglican parish, the same as if you'd come from another parish. And you'll be very welcome.

haulagebasher

There should be no fuss involved, just approach the rector and discuss. Look upon it as joining another parish rather than what would traditionally be seen as "conversion". The days of "taking the soup" and being branded a souper are long gone thankfully.

StudentDad

haulagebasher wrote: »

There should be no fuss involved, just approach the rector and discuss. Look upon it as joining another parish rather than what would traditionally be seen as "conversion". The days of "taking the soup" and being branded a souper are long gone thankfully.[/QUOTE]


I don't know about that. I have to admit that it's been a while since I've been to church - but - the branding is there. I've been called all sorts of names because I 'jumped ship' etc etc. Nevermind that I'd walked out on the RC church years ago. Actively going to a CofI service? The horror!

All that said I found my local church to be very welcoming and there was very little in the way of rigmarole or nonsense. I and my family just started going to service on a sunday. The rector noticed us, we had a chat, very amiable. We explained who we are etc etc. All good.

At the end of the day it is your belief that matters. Good luck OP

SD

systemsready

Peregrinus wrote: »

Yup, it's very straightforward. From a CofI perspective, they probably wouldn't even used the word "conversion"; you're just joining an Anglican parish, the same as if you'd come from another parish. And you'll be very welcome.

They used the word 'conversion' when that woman MP in England converted from Prod to Cath

Peregrinus

If someone moves from Anglicanism (or similar) to Catholicism, Catholics are likely to speak of that a a "conversion", and the person concerned as a "convert".

But when the movement is in the other direction, Anglicans tend not to use the same terminology.

dulpit

systemsready wrote: »

They used the word 'conversion' when that woman MP in England converted from Prod to Cath

That was Anne Widdecombe iirc...

Benny_Cake

systemsready wrote: »

Am I having some sort of "deja vu experience".

I'm sure I offered my response to this question a few times now.


I said..and i say it again..
<Snip>

Mod note: No, you aren't having a deja-vu experience. If you have a helpful comment to make on this, please do so. Vague, derogatory remarks such as that which I have snipped are simply going to drag the thread completely off the rails.

systemsready

dulpit wrote: »

That was Anne Widdecombe iirc...

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systemsready

Peregrinus wrote: »

If someone moves from Anglicanism (or similar) to Catholicism, Catholics are likely to speak of that a a "conversion", and the person concerned as a "convert".

But when the movement is in the other direction, Anglicans tend not to use the same terminology.

Yeah cos anglicans wont make a big noise of it in order not to draw attention to it because the person is on an outward spiral. If an anglican returns to the catholic church..their is much sincere rejoicing among the catholics.

Onesimus

systemsready wrote: »

Yeah cos anglicans wont make a big noise of it in order not to draw attention to it because the person is on an outward spiral. If an anglican returns to the catholic church..their is much sincere rejoicing among the catholics.

That's because Catholics know how to throw a good party just like the prodigal sons father. :pac::p

systemsready

Onesimus wrote: »

That's because Catholics know how to throw a good party just like the prodigal sons father. :pac::p

They do indeed...thats why they invented the story of Jesus turning water into wine...hinting that Jesus liked a good old booze up too.
Which is in complete contradiction to the mission of Jesus.

Peregrinus

systemsready wrote: »

They do indeed...thats why they invented the story of Jesus turning water into wine...hinting that Jesus liked a good old booze up too.
Which is in complete contradiction to the mission of Jesus.

Am I being spoofed, and am too slow-witted to realise it?

systemsready

Peregrinus wrote: »

Am I being spoofed, and am too slow-witted to realise it?

Luke 1:13 +

13 But the angel said to him: “Do not be afraid, Zechariah; your prayer has been heard. Your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you are to call him John. 14 He will be a joy and delight to you, and many will rejoice because of his birth, 15 for he will be great in the sight of the Lord. He is never to take wine or other fermented drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit even before he is born. 16 He will bring back many of the people of Israel to the Lord their God.


This implies that wine and and all alcohols take away from the standing of the prophet.
If this is a good example of what a prophet is....I cannot see how this prophet or his brother Jesus would promote alcohol.
Not only that...the wine ran out at the wedding meaning it all had been drunk...so the party was dying...then Mary (the purest of the pure) goes and asks Jesus "can you help us out..we need a few more flaggons back at the party". So Jesus says ..stand back there a minute and says..no need to go to the offlicence...bam...here we are.."Drink up!"

PDN

systemsready wrote: »

Luke 1:13 +

13 But the angel said to him: “Do not be afraid, Zechariah; your prayer has been heard. Your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you are to call him John. 14 He will be a joy and delight to you, and many will rejoice because of his birth, 15 for he will be great in the sight of the Lord. He is never to take wine or other fermented drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit even before he is born. 16 He will bring back many of the people of Israel to the Lord their God.


This implies that wine and and all alcohols take away from the standing of the prophet.

No, it implies that you should look up 'Nazarite' in a good Bible Dictionary.

systemsready

PDN wrote: »

No, it implies that you should look up 'Nazarite' in a good Bible Dictionary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazirite
"refers to one who voluntarily took a vow"

So you are saying that John volunteered to take the vow before he was born?

PDN

systemsready wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazirite
"refers to one who voluntarily took a vow"

So you are saying that John volunteered to take the vow before he was born?

No, try reading what the Bible actually says. It was prophesied before John was born that he would voluntarily take the vow.

Peregrinus

systemsready wrote: »

Luke 1:13 +

13 But the angel said to him: “Do not be afraid, Zechariah; your prayer has been heard. Your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you are to call him John. 14 He will be a joy and delight to you, and many will rejoice because of his birth, 15 for he will be great in the sight of the Lord. He is never to take wine or other fermented drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit even before he is born. 16 He will bring back many of the people of Israel to the Lord their God.

Look, it’s not just the wedding feast of Cana you’re dealing with here. The gospels are filled with Jesus saying positive things about wine, feasting, banquets; he constantly uses them as examples and archetypes of good things. They also record him attending an impressive series of parties. Much of his teaching is delivered at parties. And he plainly liked a party; the gospels also note that his enemies accused him of being a glutton, a drunkard and a party boy, and Jesus’s response to this does not involve any denial that he likes to party; rather, he offers a justification.

systemsready wrote: »

This implies that wine and and all alcohols take away from the standing of the prophet.

Implies? Implies? You’re relying on an implication of your own from a single verse to argue that large parts of the gospels are inventions of the Catholics? Parts which are common to all Christian traditions? This is the same systemready who insists on a literal reading of the flood story in Genesis, but casually dismisses huge chunks of the gospel as “inventions by Catholics” because they contradict an “implication” he finds in a single verse?

systemsready wrote: »

If this is a good example of what a prophet is....I cannot see how this prophet or his brother Jesus would promote alcohol.

Try reading the gospels, and you’ll see it without any difficulty?

systemsready wrote: »

Not only that...the wine ran out at the wedding meaning it all had been drunk...so the party was dying...then Mary (the purest of the pure) goes and asks Jesus "can you help us out..we need a few more flaggons back at the party". So Jesus says ..stand back there a minute and says..no need to go to the offlicence...bam...here we are.."Drink up!"

Sure, why not? Like I say, everyone knew that he liked a party, and we know it too.

Sarky

PDN wrote: »

No, try reading what the Bible actually says. It was prophesied before John was born that he would voluntarily take the vow.

Well that just makes perfect sense.

PDN

Sarky wrote: »

Well that just makes perfect sense.

Indeed it does, but thanks for saying so.

systemsready

PDN wrote: »

No, try reading what the Bible actually says. It was prophesied before John was born that he would voluntarily take the vow.

Haha

systemsready

Peregrinus wrote: »

Look, it’s not just the wedding feast of Cana you’re dealing with here. The gospels are filled with Jesus saying positive things about wine, feasting, banquets; he constantly uses them as examples and archetypes of good things. They also record him attending an impressive series of parties. Much of his teaching is delivered at parties. And he plainly liked a party; the gospels also note that his enemies accused him of being a glutton, a drunkard and a party boy, and Jesus’s response to this does not involve any denial that he likes to party; rather, he offers a justification.


Implies? Implies? You’re relying on an implication of your own from a single verse to argue that large parts of the gospels are inventions of the Catholics? Parts which are common to all Christian traditions? This is the same systemready who insists on a literal reading of the flood story in Genesis, but casually dismisses huge chunks of the gospel as “inventions by Catholics” because they contradict an “implication” he finds in a single verse?


Try reading the gospels, and you’ll see it without any difficulty?


Sure, why not? Like I say, everyone knew that he liked a party, and we know it too.

So Jesus enjoined the drinking of wine? What about cider? Did he enjoin cider as well? Or was it just wine?

Peregrinus

systemsready wrote: »

So Jesus enjoined the drinking of wine?

No, he regarded it as a good thing, and enjoyed it himself, and he frequently used in his teaching as an image of a good thing. But he didn't enjoin anyone else to drink wine (except for eucharistic purposes, of course). I struggle to think that you can have read the gospels and not noticed this until now.

systemsready wrote: »

What about cider? Did he enjoin cider as well? Or was it just wine?

Cider isn't mentioned in scripture. It wasn't a common drink in first-century Palestine - the apples that grow in Mediterranean climates do not make good cider. You need a more temperate climate.