Fuel coming down over weekend/Monday

Bandara

Should be around the 3 or 4 cent a liter mark

Just in case anyone is filling up today/tomorrow

cena

Even better if it went down alot more

Soarer

Will definitely fumes it until then.

Alanstrainor

Noticed it coming down in the last couple of days alright. That's cool!

Will wait a couple of days before filling her up!:D

George Dalton

Just paid €116 to fill the tank this morning :pac:

Leonard Hofstadter

Good to know, the price of it has been an absolute joke for the past while.

Gary ITR

George Dalton wrote: »

Just paid €116 to fill the tank this morning :pac:

Why are you driving a tank?

sweetie

got diesel for 157.9 this morning, maybe coulda waited another day but thats a couple cent cheaper than it was

Vicxas

Any reason for the reduction, wonder how long that will last

flutered

Soarer wrote: »

Will definitely fumes it until then.

aroound these parts the use the term vincent de paul.

Soarer

sweetie wrote: »

got diesel for 157.9 this morning, maybe coulda waited another day but thats a couple cent cheaper than it was

Tis always that in my local, so can't wait to see what it falls to.

JustAddWater

Hammertime wrote: »

Should be around the 3 or 4 cent a liter mark

Just in case anyone is filling up today/tomorrow

3-4 cent a litre? Nice.... take that venuzela!

tayto lover

I wonder will it come down again later on.
Does anyone think the kerosene will come down soon? Need to fill up my tank for the winter.

cadaliac

Have to go to work in the morning, the to dublin in the evening and the light is about to come on in my car .
Well, at least this is good news. Are you fairly sure that it will come down? I know that the current tank(s) of local stock will have to be sold at the original purchase price first, though....

Mint Sauce

Wonder how long it will stay done for, over €80 in the other day, and only fill her every couple weeks.

tayto lover

cadaliac wrote: »

Have to go to work in the morning, the to dublin in the evening and the light is about to come on in my car .
Well, at least this is good news. Are you fairly sure that it will come down? I know that the current tank(s) of local stock will have to be sold at the original purchase price first, though....

It's amazing that they don't have to sell it off when the price is going up though.

Bandara

tayto lover wrote: »

I wonder will it come down again later on.
Does anyone think the kerosene will come down soon? Need to fill up my tank for the winter.

Kero is due to come down about 3c from monday(ish) am not sure on the longer term forecast.

serious3

balls and heres me just after filling up.... unleaded is 171.9 still in clifden:mad:

cena

serious3 wrote: »

balls and heres me just after filling up.... unleaded is 171.9 still in clifden:mad:

There a place that is selling petrol for 1.76

Kenny Logins

George Dalton wrote: »

Just paid €116 to fill the tank this morning :pac:

Too bad. Just think what you could have done with that €2...

MrFrisp

Vicxas wrote: »

Any reason for the reduction, wonder how long that will last

Not long at all....It's a joke...

It will only come down about 2 cent,maybe 3......It will probably take 4-6 weeks for it to happen.

Then it will go back up by about 8 cent..

Usual story...Nothing ever changes.

They'll find a tayto bag on a far-away planet somewhere,,and start fighting over it,and then use that to justify raising the price of fuel again.

They have all the excuses,,and aren't afraid to use them.






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Where To

Mine went down 5 cent a litre, yesterday, back up a cent today, decrease won't last long folks.

Big Nasty

140 notes to fill the 7er now. :eek:

Take that yiz pussies.

vectrahed

up and down like a yoyo

ill stick to me push bike thanks very much

Briskit

I bought 1300 litres of Kero this week... :eek:

The Guvnor

tayto lover wrote: »

I wonder will it come down again later on.
Does anyone think the kerosene will come down soon? Need to fill up my tank for the winter.

Off topic but diesel/marked gas oil is much more efficient if your boiler and flue are suitable for it.

Any reduction is good news.

skyhighflyer

Vicxas wrote: »

Any reason for the reduction, wonder how long that will last

Euro's strengthened a fair bit against the dollar in the past week or so, mainly due to the ECB committing to buy an unlimited amount of government bonds.

Remains to be seen how this will all pan out, but for now it's good news for the European motorist as oil priced in dollars has become proportionately cheaper.

beggars_bush

green diesel is the way forward

jsd1004

Gary ITR wrote: »

Why are you driving a tank?

Why would you brim a car. You are going to use more fuel and blunt your cars performance, You are effectively throwing a keg of guinness in the boot as its the same weight. Makes sense if you are not going to be near a petrol station but i cant see the reasoning if people pass by stations regularly.

Gary ITR

jsd1004 wrote: »

Why would you brim a car. You are going to use more fuel and blunt your cars performance, You are effectively throwing a keg of guinness in the boot as its the same weight. Makes sense if you are not going to be near a petrol station but i cant see the reasoning if people pass by stations regularly.

I was making a joke but the difference in weight made by fuel is negligible in a road car. If you decide to take your McClaren F1 car for a spin it might make a bit of difference but not in your average car

Markcheese

skyhighflyer wrote: »

Vicxas wrote: »

Any reason for the reduction, wonder how long that will last

Euro's strengthened a fair bit against the dollar in the past week or so, mainly due to the ECB committing to buy an unlimited amount of government bonds.

Remains to be seen how this will all pan out, but for now it's good news for the European motorist as oil priced in dollars has become proportionately cheaper.

That....and the Feds commitment to quantitive easing to the tune of 30 billion a month weakening the dollar ....

Thatnastyboy

A bit of downward movement is long overdue,

€250 diesel gone into my monster this week,

20odd mpg is ****e, especially when youre driving a slug of a yoke! :pac:

Pa Dee

May not last long.....

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L1011

jsd1004 wrote: »

Why would you brim a car. You are going to use more fuel and blunt your cars performance, You are effectively throwing a keg of guinness in the boot as its the same weight. Makes sense if you are not going to be near a petrol station but i cant see the reasoning if people pass by stations regularly.

Because the money I'd save by not brimming it is far less than the value of my time? It'll be a few cents, versus multiple time consuming visits to the station.

Popoutman

jsd1004 wrote: »

Why would you brim a car. You are going to use more fuel and blunt your cars performance, You are effectively throwing a keg of guinness in the boot as its the same weight. Makes sense if you are not going to be near a petrol station but i cant see the reasoning if people pass by stations regularly.

Add to this the fact that when the fuel tank is near full, there's a lot less condensation in the tank and therefore a lot less water in the bottom of the fuel tank and less water in the fuel system. Yes the filter will take it out, but it's always better to prevent it getting in there in the first place.

Less importantly, brimming allows a true MPG figure to be calculated.

dgt

4 cent a litre?

Sweet! I'll fill absolutely everything here and still have change for a Mars Duo :cool:

Voodoomelon

MCMLXXV wrote: »

140 notes to fill the 7er now. :eek:

Take that yiz pussies.

I don't know if this makes me a winner or a loser.



Got 85.5l in recently too!

Supergurrier

Gah put 70 bob in the ST yesterday, oh well also lol @ the 7er owners, thats nasty

Duiske

Heard there were big queues at the Gala station in New Ross today. They were selling petrol/diesel at €1.62/€1.52 per litre. Not sure if it was just some kind of promotion or if it was related to the upcoming price reductions.

jsd1004

Popoutman wrote: »

Add to this the fact that when the fuel tank is near full, there's a lot less condensation in the tank and therefore a lot less water in the bottom of the fuel tank and less water in the fuel system. Yes the filter will take it out, but it's always better to prevent it getting in there in the first place.

Less importantly, brimming allows a true MPG figure to be calculated.

Not sure of your logic here, never heard of condensation being an issue with car plastic tanks. Water in diesel or petrol is more likely to come from the garage storage systems which use large metal tanks that are often susceptible to water leaks as well. For that reason i would avoid any old stations (bit of a sweeping generalisation here) especially with new high performance engines. A true consumption figure (and improved) can be got by filling with 10 litres or 20 or whatever fixed figure you use. 60 Litres of fuel in my Lotus increases weight by about 10% and reduces performance and economy proportionately.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PU3YFvgjPc on a safety issue this is what 80 litres of petrol is like in an accident.

Voodoomelon

Do different fuels have different levels of lubrication?
I noticed with my most recent fill the fuel pump is making more noise than usual. It's not on its way out, as I heard it make similar noises before.

Popoutman

jsd1004 wrote: »

Not sure of your logic here, never heard of condensation being an issue with car plastic tanks.

The condensation comes from air that gets into the tank when the tank is less than full. Not as much an issue for petrol fuel systems that are supposed to be sealed systems for vapour control. This water-laden air allow condensation at night to form on the fuel tank walls. This would be in addition to the possibility of water from poor storage.

jsd1004 wrote: »

A true consumption figure (and improved) can be got by filling with 10 litres or 20 or whatever fixed figure you use.

Amm, I'd like to see how you determine what amount of fuel you have used unless you brim. Either you run until empty and add x litres, or you measure the x litres used from a previous brimming to the next brimming. No other way to measure the fuel volume remaining accurately. No in-tank gauge is accurate enough to give fuel volumes that are useful for mpg clculations. The dash gauges are indicative only. Consistently brimming to the same point is the only accurate way to calculate true fuel economy.

jsd1004 wrote: »

60 Litres of fuel in my Lotus increases weight by about 10% and reduces performance and economy proportionately.

Certainly an issue in that mass of a car, less so for other cars. Then again, if you were going on trackdays when the extra ~0.5 sec to 60 and ~5% more fuel consumption would actually matter, you would want be bringing your own fuel bowser, allowing frequent topups between a few hot laps. Outside temperature would have more effect on the performance to be honest.

jsd1004 wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PU3YFvgjPc on a safety issue this is what 80 litres of petrol is like in an accident.

Bit of a strawman there, as it's expected that the fuel systems in our road cars would withstand expected normal collisions. Though to be fair I don't think that many of our road cars would withstand a 150kph rear end like that race accident you've linked to. There would still be a significant amount of flame from a 20l fuel spill in the same circumstances so the example is probably not a good one as a safety issue.
Edit - another thing to note, that fuel tank in that racecar wasn't petrol - it was 75l of bioethanol, which would flash a bit faster than petrol would - lower viscosity. Still an unpleasant situation for that driver.

Back on topic - I'm looking forwards to a few cent off fuel as I've to fill tanks in the MR2 and the A4, and the extra few euro saved will taste lovely as a pint next weekend

Popoutman

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Do different fuels have different levels of lubrication?
I noticed with my most recent fill the fuel pump is making more noise than usual. It's not on its way out, as I heard it make similar noises before.

It's possible though unlikely as all diesel is supposed to conform to a particular standard to be considered for sale (Euro V)in the EU. It's what is causing some problems for VAG CR diesels in the US, where lower standard diesel fuel lubricity is causing wear in the fuel pumps, killing the injectors.

The US spec for diesel lubrication is ASTM D975, while there isn't a specific lubrication standard for the EU, the fact that the Euro V ULSD diesels must have <10PPM of sulphur means that there must be some lubrication additives added to ensure adequate lubrication.

(I'm trying to contact another engineer friend that should be able to give correct and more detailed info on this subject, but it'll be a few days)

Other possibilities that could cause noise changes would be the ambient temperature, as this would affect the viscosity of the fuel a little bit and that little bit may be enough to cause the noises you are hearing.