Free patient record app?

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Anyone using any good free patient record apps (for android).
Patient record on the go seemed good until i find you can't put in more than a handful of patients without buying. For 30 quid. FFS.

El_Dangeroso

Are you keeping personal information in them? Are they stored in the cloud?

If so that is a breach of data protection legislation.

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No and no.

opinion guy

El_Dangeroso wrote: »

Are you keeping personal information in them? Are they stored in the cloud?

If so that is a breach of data protection legislation.

take everything wrote: »

No and no.

Names, date of birth count as personal information you know!

El_Dangeroso

opinion guy wrote: »

Names, date of birth count as personal information you know!

Actually it even goes further than that, it's anything that can potentially identify a patient, for example if there is one person in Galway with a rare disease, and they are listed in a database with the county and disease then they are considered identifiable and the data is personal information.

That's why k-based anonymisation applies to extracts of national databases that are used for research.

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opinion guy wrote: »

Names, date of birth count as personal information you know!

If it's anonymised, is this really important.
We're talking about lab results/interventions etc here.
Not very personal, especially if anonymised.

So any time a doctor has to prepare a case presentation (with name anonymised) and work on it on their own laptop, that's full of far more clinical data we're talking about here.
Are we talking about big data breaches there as well.

Why are these apps on the market.
Surely there are other doctors out there who make some use of stuff like this.

opinion guy

take everything wrote: »

If it's anonymised, is this really important.
We're talking about lab results/interventions etc here.
Not very personal, especially if anonymised.

So any time a doctor has to prepare a case presentation (with name anonymised) and work on it on their own laptop, that's full of far more clinical data we're talking about here.
Are we talking about big data breaches there as well.

Why are these apps on the market.
Surely there are other doctors out there who make some use of stuff like this.

Well I don't know these apps but I had an imagine of you walkign around with a list of names diagnoses and dates of brith on your phone which would be a big breach of privacy if you phone was stolen in the pub or something.

Don't mind me if I got it wrong

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TBH i haven't used them before but can see how useful they could be.
I'll certainly think a bit more about this.
I'd love to hear whether any of the doctors here use apps like this though.

RacoonQueen

El_Dangeroso wrote: »

Are you keeping personal information in them? Are they stored in the cloud?

If so that is a breach of data protection legislation.

With iPads and tablets being rolled out in some hospitals now(I know the HSE is broke) I would imagine that apps like this will become quite common with hospitals maybe developing an app of their own patient record system?

El_Dangeroso

RacoonQueen wrote: »

With iPads and tablets being rolled out in some hospitals now(I know the HSE is broke) I would imagine that apps like this will become quite common with hospitals maybe developing an app of their own patient record system?

Yeah, but typically a hospital will use an ISO compliant system that only interfaces through the iPad with their own secure database stored within the EU.

I went to a data protection conference, and all the lawyers were advising never ever put personal details in the cloud, as by the very nature of the cloud, data can be moved from country to country, and not every country has signed up to adhere to EU data protection laws (in fact most outside of the EU haven't)