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Potential Jobs Boost

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭Beaver1


    I hope they dont regard 10 or 20 jobs as a major job boost, to me a major job boost would be 500 or more, long overdue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Beaver1 wrote: »
    I hope they dont regard 10 or 20 jobs as a major job boost, to me a major job boost would be 500 or more, long overdue


    While any new jobs is good news, Limerick really needs a string of announcements like the regular 200, 300, 400 etc ones that pop up for Cork and Galway.


    Only today there was another 300 job announcement for Galway involving EA games. That is the type of high profile company that Limerick needs to be attracting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    Beaver1 wrote: »
    I hope they dont regard 10 or 20 jobs as a major job boost, to me a major job boost would be 500 or more, long overdue

    I think when they speculate about IDA backed significant jobs announcements, they are usually referring to triple digit numbers. Fingers crossed!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭liammur


    Kess73 wrote: »
    While any new jobs is good news, Limerick really needs a string of announcements like the regular 200, 300, 400 etc ones that pop up for Cork and Galway.


    Only today there was another 300 job announcement for Galway involving EA games. That is the type of high profile company that Limerick needs to be attracting

    Exactly.

    Possibly Analogue ? It says in that report the company is already in the area & Analogue are building a new block in Raheen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭kilburn


    Analogs jobs decision was already announced


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Doom


    Analog are knocking down and rebuilding.....don't think any new jobs in the pipeline.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    Heard it might be Cook Medical. They've been recruiting a lot lately too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,154 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Chances are it's Vistakon.

    http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/business/job-boost-expected-as-vistakon-expands-its-limerick-operation-1-4020700
    When the announcement happens, it will be the first major jobs announcement for Limerick from the IDA this summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭Beaver1


    I hope its for the unskilled worker, are Dell coming back, lol, it would be great


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,154 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Beaver1 wrote: »
    I hope its for the unskilled worker, are Dell coming back, lol, it would be great

    Yes unskilled is better because take Paypal for example. They are now complaining Ireland cannot supply the language skills they need for their call centre and will have to migrate workers into the country to fill the Dundalk job(jobs we could have gotten) but even if Limerick got the jobs we couldn't fill those positions either. :rolleyes:

    Give us another Dell/Creche for Adults.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭Beaver1


    Beer Baron wrote: »
    Yes unskilled is better because take Paypal for example. They are now complaining Ireland cannot supply the language skills they need for their call centre and will have to migrate workers into the country to fill the Dundalk job(jobs we could have gotten) but even if Limerick got the jobs we couldn't fill those positions either. :rolleyes:

    Give us another Dell/Creche for Adults.
    thats why it needs to be unskilled, you hit the nail on the head. some sort of production line.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭liammur


    Beer Baron wrote: »
    Yes unskilled is better because take Paypal for example. They are now complaining Ireland cannot supply the language skills they need for their call centre and will have to migrate workers into the country to fill the Dundalk job(jobs we could have gotten) but even if Limerick got the jobs we couldn't fill those positions either. :rolleyes:

    Give us another Dell/Creche for Adults.

    They knew that long before they came here. They'll get cheap corporation tax, huge grants per worker and bring in some cheap labour. And they are complaining ? !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,588 ✭✭✭touts


    My bet is another expansion plan at an existing company where the IDA are throwing a few million at them to buy new equipment and maybe do up a building so some minister can have a nice photo op but in reality it will be a half promise of less than 100 jobs vaguely spread out over the next 4 or 5 years. Anything bigger than that would go to Dublin or Cork.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,154 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    touts wrote: »
    Anything bigger than that would go to Dublin or Cork.

    Actually anything bigger than that would likely go to Enda Kenny to announce I'd say.

    Enda Kenny announced 300 jobs for Galway so I'd say we are getting a paltry sum and the Limerick Leader article is disengenous anyway. 20,000 in the city environs may be out of work but how many are actually trying to get back to work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    Problem with the multilingual jobs is that a lot of them look for native level or near native level spoken and written. I tried for a position in Amazon for Italian and fell short in the written dept. I'd be pretty good at speaking, but not native level....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,588 ✭✭✭touts


    Beer Baron wrote: »
    Actually anything bigger than that would likely go to Enda Kenny to announce I'd say.

    Enda Kenny announced 300 jobs for Galway so I'd say we are getting a paltry sum and the Limerick Leader article is disengenous anyway. 20,000 in the city environs may be out of work but how many are actually trying to get back to work.

    I would say the vast majority. Sure Limerick has always had a few high profile areas where unemployment remained high even as companies like Dell were desperately seeking workers but they make up a small portion of the current total unemployed. The majority of the 20,000 are unemployed in Limerick due to gross neglect of the area by the IDA and the gross incompetence of local public representatives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    US financial company is to establish 300 new jobs.
    Already based here.

    Hmmm! :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭munstergirl


    Its 300 jobs at a US financial service company. Rte.ie, announcement after 11.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭kilburn


    Probably Northern Trust


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭banjobongo


    It is Northern Trust (see Limerick Leader website). My guess is that very few of the jobs there will be for unskilled workers, so its unlikely that production operators from Dell will be getting jobs in Northern Trrust, but I may be wrong, its just my guess...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭liammur


    Well it's certainly good news and all jobs are welcome.

    I don't give the government or IDA much credit though. When new companies are brought in that's when I'll say they've done well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    This is great news for the region and they are skilled jobs as Northern Trust are a Financial Services company.

    The days of unskilled jobs in this country are almost at an end, labour rates and operational costs are too high in comparision to developing countries. The unskilled labour force needs to move on from days gone by and adapt/upskill rather than waiting for the next ship to arrive which is very unlikely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭Beaver1


    there isn't much now to be too joyful about, 400 jobs over 5 years, 80 a year, Jesus wept, how can you call that a job boost,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭kilburn


    its a start 400 new jobs in finance drip fed over 5 years average wage 30k is an extra 12m spending power in the area meaning more money to spend on goods and services and create more jobs in the retail and service industry. You have to look at the bigger picture and the message a large multinational like this gives out by expanding in Limerick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Poxyshamrock


    kilburn wrote: »
    its a start 400 new jobs in finance drip fed over 5 years average wage 30k is an extra 12m spending power in the area meaning more money to spend on goods and services and create more jobs in the retail and service industry. You have to look at the bigger picture and the message a large multinational like this gives out by expanding in Limerick

    +1

    You can also take into consideration more catering staff, more cleaners, more security, etc.!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    kilburn wrote: »
    its a start 400 new jobs in finance drip fed over 5 years average wage 30k is an extra 12m spending power in the area meaning more money to spend on goods and services and create more jobs in the retail and service industry. You have to look at the bigger picture and the message a large multinational like this gives out by expanding in Limerick


    I think we would all liked to have seen more for Limerick and more often, but you are spot on in that it is a start, and any new jobs at all is a good thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 878 ✭✭✭rainbowdash


    Beaver1 wrote: »
    there isn't much now to be too joyful about, 400 jobs over 5 years, 80 a year, Jesus wept, how can you call that a job boost,

    Not sure if I agree or disagree with you, some of these companies make announcements with much fanfare and never fill the jobs, or else close shortly after, or others like eBay and PayPal get bigger and bigger.

    Only time will tell I suppose!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,588 ✭✭✭touts


    A start yes. I fear given the IDA track record of neglect in Limerick it may also be a finish. Box ticked. Michael happy. Back inside the M50 quick as we can now before we catch something from the natives.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    Delighted that it is a high calibre employer like Northern Trust. I work in that industry. Fund administration companies are high salary payers and the spin offs of those jobs is that those new workers will buy properties, spend their money on social/leisure/clothing/retail so other businesses of Limerick will also benefit.

    I'm a bit disappointed at the cynicism on this thread. 400 jobs being too little? Come on!! The equivalent would be 4000 announced for Dublin if you compare population(no-one would scoff or belittle that in Dublin) Also, it's like some posters were hoping for unskilled jobs. Why? Wouldn't it be in the best interests of those people to upskill and retrain so that they have a better chance of securing a wider choice of employment? Secondly, unskilled assemply line manufacturers won't move here when they can get labour at a fraction of the cost in other less costly countries. Those that do move here invariable pull out after a few years as the costs are unsustainable so job security would never be certain.

    It is a good jobs day for Limerick!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    ongarboy wrote: »
    Delighted that it is a high calibre employer like Northern Trust. I work in that industry. Fund administration companies are high salary payers and the spin offs of those jobs is that those new workers will buy properties, spend their money on social/leisure/clothing/retail so other businesses of Limerick will also benefit.

    I'm a bit disappointed at the cynicism on this thread. 400 jobs being too little? Come on!! The equivalent would be 4000 announced for Dublin if you compare population(no-one would scoff or belittle that in Dublin) Also, it's like some posters were hoping for unskilled jobs. Why? Wouldn't it be in the best interests of those people to upskill and retrain so that they have a better chance of securing a wider choice of employment? Secondly, unskilled assemply line manufacturers won't move here when they can get labour at a fraction of the cost in other less costly countries. Those that do move here invariable pull out after a few years as the costs are unsustainable so job security would never be certain.

    It is a good jobs day for Limerick!


    It is 400 potential jobs over 5 years though not a guaranteed 400 jobs. Big difference going by the track record in Limerick for such announcements. The cynicism is there because there have been quite a lot of big announcements for Limerick over the past five years of one huge job boost or another and for the most part they have remained as headlines without substance.

    You made the comparsion with Dublin and how 400 jobs in Limerick would be like a much larger figure there, but I would instead use Galway and Cork as a yard stick. They have received, on a regular basis, each year for the past number of years announcements of 200, 300, 400 etc jobs and those jobs have actually been created.

    So yes a job announcement for Limerick is good news and it becomes great news if the full 400 jobs are created, but 400 jobs over 5 years would be 80 jobs a year and that is nowhere close to the rate that jobs are still being lost in Limerick.


    I would also disagree with your comment about unskilled jobs. There are over 20,000 people unemployed in Limerick city and county. That is a huge number for a county that has such a small city. There is plenty of scope with that kind of figure for unskilled jobs as well as skilled ones imho. And even if there was some way to get 20,000 people to upskill, there is still going to be 20,000 out of work if there is not a massive influx of jobs.

    Skilled and unskilled jobs are needed for Limerick and in large numbers. Hopefully the Northern Trust announcement turns out to hold true to the potential amount of jobs it says it might create, and hopefully it causes a knock on effect of creating unskilled roles such as cleaners etc and is just the start of a number of other companies either expanding or coming in fresh to Limerick.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭liammur


    Kess73 wrote: »
    It is 400 potential jobs over 5 years though not a guaranteed 400 jobs. Big difference going by the track record in Limerick for such announcements. The cynicism is there because there have been quite a lot of big announcements for Limerick over the past five years of one huge job boost or another and for the most part they have remained as headlines without substance.

    You made the comparsion with Dublin and how 400 jobs in Limerick would be like a much larger figure there, but I would instead use Galway and Cork as a yard stick. They have received, on a regular basis, each year for the past number of years announcements of 200, 300, 400 etc jobs and those jobs have actually been created.

    So yes a job announcement for Limerick is good news and it becomes great news if the full 400 jobs are created, but 400 jobs over 5 years would be 80 jobs a year and that is nowhere close to the rate that jobs are still being lost in Limerick.


    I would also disagree with your comment about unskilled jobs. There are over 20,000 people unemployed in Limerick city and county. That is a huge number for a county that has such a small city. There is plenty of scope with that kind of figure for unskilled jobs as well as skilled ones imho. And even if there was some way to get 20,000 people to upskill, there is still going to be 20,000 out of work if there is not a massive influx of jobs.

    Skilled and unskilled jobs are needed for Limerick and in large numbers. Hopefully the Northern Trust announcement turns out to hold true to the potential amount of jobs it says it might create, and hopefully it causes a knock on effect of creating unskilled roles such as cleaners etc and is just the start of a number of other companies either expanding or coming in fresh to Limerick.

    That's very true. Also, this company is already located in the region. How about getting new companies in ? We saw when Dell downsized the devastation it caused, so rather than have a few big ones, i'd like many smaller ones.

    But no doubt a good day, probably the biggest jobs announcement in Limerick for 15 years ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    liammur wrote: »
    That's very true. Also, this company is already located in the region. How about getting new companies in ? We saw when Dell downsized the devastation it caused, so rather than have a few big ones, i'd like many smaller ones.

    But no doubt a good day, probably the biggest jobs announcement in Limerick for 15 years ?



    It is scary in employment terms when it is looked at that way. The fourth (technically it is at present) biggest city in the country which comes with a well populated surrounding area and it may be the only job announcement of that scale (albeit a potential number set over five years) in a decade and a half.

    Really does show how badly Limerick has been let down by some quarters, and how unattractive it may also seem to be to some companies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭mitresize5


    Kess73 wrote: »
    It is 400 potential jobs over 5 years though not a guaranteed 400 jobs.
    Any of the releases I've read today have said there will be 400 jobs created - not a potential to create 400 jobs
    Kess73 wrote: »
    Big difference going by the track record in Limerick for such announcements. The cynicism is there because there have been quite a lot of big announcements for Limerick over the past five years of one huge job boost or another and for the most part they have remained as headlines without substance.

    I cannot remember a single announcement 'of one huge job boost or another' in Limerick in the last five years ... not to mind any that became 'headlines without substance' ... although I'd be happy to be corrected on this.

    This is a good news day for Limerick, one of very few in the last few years ....in my eyes the cynicism of a lot of posters on here is a bit baffling


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    mitresize5 wrote: »
    Any of the releases I've read today have said there will be 400 jobs created - not a potential to create 400 jobs



    I cannot remember a single announcement 'of one huge job boost or another' in Limerick in the last five years ... not to mind any that became 'headlines without substance' ... although I'd be happy to be corrected on this.

    This is a good news day for Limerick, one of very few in the last few years ....in my eyes the cynicism of a lot of posters on here is a bit baffling


    Speaking for myself, I am a little cynical thanks tp repeated headlines about projects like the Opera centre that "are on the verge" of starting and creating hundreds of jobs.

    There was another on the creation of hundreds of jobs for the riverside project just off of the Condell road.

    The project involving the old Dunnes stores building and the surrounding area that was on the verge of starting.

    The headlines that came from quotes from the then mayor Jim Long about a large company that they hoped were about to set up in Limerick (Paypal)

    The Limerick Leader and local radio has been full of this type of "announcement" in recent years and as a result I tend to be a bit cynical of any announcement for Limerick until it actually happens.


    As for the 400 jobs announced today. I really do hope it happens and that the full 400 jobs do get created as well as any extra jobs that would be created on the back of them, but the word "hoped" in the announcement put me on edge with regards to the full amount along with the statement that they expect to fill 50 positions this year, not that they will fill 50 positions this year.

    I might well be overly cynical on this though, and I would love to be proven badly wrong for being so as it would mean that hundreds of extra jobs were in existence, and that there was some extra spending power in the area as a result.


    Where I got my comment of up to 400 jobs over five years was from the tv interview today that had Richard Bruoton and Clive Bellows speaking. Below is an link to an article that also mentions that it is up to 400 jobs over 5 years rather than a definite 400 jobs..


    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/400-northern-trust-jobs-limerick-100100267.html


    Minister for Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation Richard Bruton TD and Clive Bellows, Country Head Ireland at Northern Trust (NTRS) today announced that the company is to expand its Limerick operation by creating up to 400 new jobs over the next five years. The expansion is supported by the Irish Government through IDA Ireland.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭omgitsthelazor


    Anyone know if positions are being filled right away or when its likely to start? Couldn't find any contact details for their recruitment in Limerick for these new slots.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 878 ✭✭✭rainbowdash


    mitresize5 wrote: »
    Any of the releases I've read today have said there will be 400 jobs created - not a potential to create 400 jobs



    I cannot remember a single announcement 'of one huge job boost or another' in Limerick in the last five years ... not to mind any that became 'headlines without substance' ... although I'd be happy to be corrected on this.

    This is a good news day for Limerick, one of very few in the last few years ....in my eyes the cynicism of a lot of posters on here is a bit baffling


    Don't get me wrong, any new jobs is good news, however I am also a realist. I remember president Bill Clinton visiting the gateway factory in Dublin, one would thing the place had a huge future, yet it closed shortly after.

    There is no guarantee 400 jobs will be created it may happen and I hope it does, but the company could go the way of gateway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Anyone know if positions are being filled right away or when its likely to start? Couldn't find any contact details for their recruitment in Limerick for these new slots.

    There are six vacancies listed for Limerick on the company's website, and they have said that they hope to fill 50 positions by the end of this year so those new vacancies should start showing up on their site between now and then.


    Here are their current listed vacancies for Limerick.

    http://www.northerntrustcareers.com/quicksearch?qsMetroArea=71&qsJobRole=all


    Best of luck in advance should you decide to apply for one of the listed vacancies or for one of the new ones when they get advertised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭omgitsthelazor


    Kess73 wrote: »
    There are six vacancies listed for Limerick on the company's website, and they have said that they hope to fill 50 positions by the end of this year so those new vacancies should start showing up on their site between now and then.


    Here are their current listed vacancies for Limerick.

    http://www.northerntrustcareers.com/quicksearch?qsMetroArea=71&qsJobRole=all


    Best of luck in advance should you decide to apply for one of the listed vacancies or for one of the new ones when they get advertised.

    Thanks for your help. :)

    I'm interested in their IT roles, didn't see anything in that area from them so they're probably not being advertised yet. I'll keep checking back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    Limerick is NT's largest location outside of the US. I've made the point here before that the company has moved people out of Dublin to come to Limerick, and then locals who have done nothing to actually champion the area bitch and moan that 400 jobs isn't enough.

    Did ye do the same in the early 90s when Dell opened up and made expansion announcements? "Not enough Dell" - In fact it was too much, as there was too much dependence on one employer.

    Quit yer whinging, it's 400 jobs that the company is to work with the local third level institutions (with which it already has fantastic relationships) to fill with it's local graduates.

    Christ - what do ye want? A money tree factory?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭flutered


    ninty9er wrote: »
    Limerick is NT's largest location outside of the US. I've made the point here before that the company has moved people out of Dublin to come to Limerick, and then locals who have done nothing to actually champion the area bitch and moan that 400 jobs isn't enough.

    Did ye do the same in the early 90s when Dell opened up and made expansion announcements? "Not enough Dell" - In fact it was too much, as there was too much dependence on one employer.

    Quit yer whinging, it's 400 jobs that the company is to work with the local third level institutions (with which it already has fantastic relationships) to fill with it's local graduates.

    Christ - what do ye want? A money tree factory?

    nah, that particular tree is out in castletroy, it name is ul, us plebs have not a hope of getting in there, we need a many of the local small industarys to get a bank loan so as they can hire two or three people so as they can expand, also have you not learned in primary school not to take the lords name in vain, it causes offence to some, not many but some.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭liammur


    ninty9er wrote: »
    Limerick is NT's largest location outside of the US. I've made the point here before that the company has moved people out of Dublin to come to Limerick, and then locals who have done nothing to actually champion the area bitch and moan that 400 jobs isn't enough.

    Did ye do the same in the early 90s when Dell opened up and made expansion announcements? "Not enough Dell" - In fact it was too much, as there was too much dependence on one employer.

    Quit yer whinging, it's 400 jobs that the company is to work with the local third level institutions (with which it already has fantastic relationships) to fill with it's local graduates.

    Christ - what do ye want? A money tree factory?

    Complete nonsense. Most posters on boards.ie speak very highly of Limerick and always assist people from different areas when they want info on Limerick. That in itself is championing the area. Well done to all contributors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭LB6


    On the news last night, they said that they will be taking the new staff from UL and LIT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Limerick Dude


    LB6 wrote: »
    On the news last night, they said that they will be taking the new staff from UL and LIT

    Really? I thought they just mentioned that 200 out of the 300 current staff are graduates from UL or LIT.


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