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Hidden Millionaire Galway episode

  • 18-09-2012 12:41pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭


    Did anyone see Hidden Millionaire programme set in Galway last night?

    if you were living on welfare would you be able to afford to rent an entire house in Galway?
    would you dine on beans on toast as the Donegal wan did last night?

    is having a can of beer down by the Spanish Arch a sign of alcohol abuse and destitution?


    if the programme is to be believed there is destitution on every corner of Galway.


Comments

  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Shows like that, especially when made by ****ty Irish production companies, tend to absolutely sensationalise everything, 99% of TV3's original content is proof of that, RTE are just as bad in a lot of ways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭ArtyC


    Haha I was thinking that about the big house she got, in town- on her welfare money!! She stayed in The box room of it as well by the looks of it. I laughed at the beans on toast Craic as well!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭van_beano


    What I don't get is......

    All the people that she was interviewing, did these people not wonder:
    a) Who was she?
    b) Why she interviewing me?
    and
    c) Why was there was a film crew following her?

    She cried too much........especially when the reformed alcoholic told her his life story. He seemed pretty embarrassed for her at the end......

    I didn't see the end of it though so I don't know who she gave money to so I can't comment any further than that, at least I know part of my TV license paid for her accommodation for the 8 days, money well spent!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭Shakti


    Self promotion by way of shameless exploitation, maybe a mate of fidelmas' perhaps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,005 ✭✭✭✭Toto Wolfcastle


    van_beano wrote: »
    What I don't get is......

    All the people that she was interviewing, did these people not wonder:
    a) Who was she?
    b) Why she interviewing me?
    and
    c) Why was there was a film crew following her?

    She told them that she was filming a documentary.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    van_beano wrote: »
    What I don't get is......

    All the people that she was interviewing, did these people not wonder:
    a) Who was she?
    b) Why she interviewing me?
    and
    c) Why was there was a film crew following her?

    She cried too much........especially when the reformed alcoholic told her his life story. He seemed pretty embarrassed for her at the end......

    I didn't see the end of it though so I don't know who she gave money to so I can't comment any further than that, at least I know part of my TV license paid for her accommodation for the 8 days, money well spent!

    supposedly she was making a programme on life in modern Ireland.
    she cried enough tears to drive a mill wheel.
    a fine bird though.
    i wouldnt mess with the wan from the womens shelter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭van_beano


    Fuinseog wrote: »
    supposedly she was making a programme on life in modern Ireland.

    Ahh very good, I failed to mention I didn't see the start of it either......now I just sound like an eejit :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    van_beano wrote: »
    Ahh very good, I failed to mention I didn't see the start of it either......now I just sound like an eejit :eek:

    probably on the player.

    BTW is that what your average rented house looks like in Galway or was it a student gaff?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭Krieg


    Anywhere this can be viewed online or repeat of the episode?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭Shakti


    It's actually called 'the secret millionaire' nauseating stuff
    http://www.rte.ie/player/#!v=10053217


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 697 ✭✭✭swiftman


    Fuinseog wrote: »
    probably on the player.

    BTW is that what your average rented house looks like in Galway or was it a student gaff?

    this house https://maps.google.ie/maps?q=galway&aq=f&ie=UTF-8&hl=en


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,398 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    I wouldn't blame the Donegal woman for 'crying too much' etc. What we see on these types of show is the edited versions (for maximum emotional impact). And who knows what kind of personal connections it triggered. 'People' want the emotional moments on these type of shows.

    Plenty have had beans on toast for the dinner!

    I'd say the gaff is pretty standard for an old house near City Centre
    rental, probably would be cleaned a bit better though.

    People are great at closing their eyes to stuff. I'm glad a few charities got some press, even if it was standard mass-view telly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭irishlady29


    Watched it myself and have mixed emotions about it (but I wont cry)!

    I thought Galway looked great with the volvo ocean race & the crowds. I just don't get it, whats in it for her?? If she really wanted to "make a difference", why so public???
    Throw a few cheques in the post......She has to be benefiting from it somehow?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭van_beano


    ......She has to be benefiting from it somehow?

    Didn't she get Social Welfare for the 8 days without having to go through all the trouble of applying for it, Signing on etc :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭irishlady29


    van_beano wrote: »
    Didn't she get Social Welfare for the 8 days without having to go through all the trouble of applying for it, Signing on etc :D

    Actually yeah, and I did'nt see her standing in the queue for it either, and, did you see all the "expensive" cleaning stuff she bought, not an aldi label in sight!!:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭van_beano


    Does her particular business sell cleaning products?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭irishlady29


    van_beano wrote: »
    Does her particular business sell cleaning products?

    I'm not sure, I would'nt have thought so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭van_beano


    Maybe her wholesaler does.....There should be a spin-off Behind-the-Scenes episode aswell, just to clear up a few questions.

    How much did she give away in the end anyways?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 697 ✭✭✭swiftman


    €40,000 if im not mistaken. (15k,5k,10,10)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭van_beano


    For a millionaire that's not that much, wouldn't ya think she would have at least broken the €100k mark!

    If ya think about it aswell she got free advertising for her particular business so that's €40k well spent


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 697 ✭✭✭swiftman


    what was the company then? i failed to hear the name? is it a small one or multinational


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭van_beano


    Small one, few based around Ireland, can't be mentioning it on here as that'd be advertising and €40k well spent :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,398 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    Lads! It's a telly show. All is not what it seems! It is meant to make cheap telly that will tug at the heartstrings. I'd warrant that she had to live on the *dole equivalent* for that week, probably from the production budget. She got to promo her company a bit, feel good about it, and probably write off some of it to charitable donation. She may have gotten an appearance fee at the end or may have waived it.

    They are great at recruiting people for shows like this, people have all sorts of reasons for saying yes, from wanting to be on telly, to trying something new, to wanting to donate in a different way. At very least everyone knows that a charity will get some PR

    It's *telly*! At the end of the day whatever she donated is more than the charities had to begin with, and didn't they get some publicity out of it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭van_beano


    I'm merely being cynical, it's me Irish genes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 theotherone


    What are the tax implications for her and her business giving money to charity does anyone know ? Good to see the good work done by people highlighted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    What are the tax implications for her and her business giving money to charity does anyone know ? Good to see the good work done by people highlighted.

    This...
    Corporate donations
    Company X donates £1,000 to an eligible charity or approved body. Assuming a corporation tax rate of 12.5%,
    relief to the company is £125, i.e. £1,000@12.5%. While the eligible charity or approved body has the benefit
    of £1,000, the cost to the company of making the donation is only £875 (£1,000 - £125). The company will
    simply claim a deduction for the donation as if it were a trading expense, there is no grossing up arrangement
    and therefore no repayment claim by the eligible charity or approved body arises.

    http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/it/leaflets/chy2.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,295 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    And if a donation was made by her as a self-employed person, rather than the company, and she's paying at 41%, then a donation of €10k will see €4100 headed back to her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 431 ✭✭kinetic


    Just speed watched it on the rte player. Thought it was a self indulgent crock of s..t.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭beeintheknow


    JustMary wrote: »
    And if a donation was made by her as a self-employed person, rather than the company, and she's paying at 41%, then a donation of €10k will see €4100 headed back to her.



    They were company cheques.

    Too easy to be cynical about this type of thing. Fair play to her for giving to charities.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,456 ✭✭✭fishy fishy


    They were company cheques.

    Too easy to be cynical about this type of thing. Fair play to her for giving to charities.

    I;m sure the people at Waterside, Cluinmhuire, Autism, etc where extremely happy to get a donation. Fair play to her for doing it - at the end of the day she didn't have to give away thousands. Maybe next time, they might hit up the likes of our pat kennys, or taoiseach to do a programme and donate some of their monies - I doubt it tho. They biatch about taking cuts to their hundreds of thousands as it is - they don't want to think of the little people.

    Very generous of that lady. Who cares if the programme wasn't up to some people's standards - the fact is she helped out a lot of good causes in Galway. She didn't have to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭galgar


    A lot of cynical people commenting here and b*tching about this programme.
    It was okay tv, highlighted a lot of charities that many people don't even know about. So what if she cried a lot, and so what if she gets tax back for her donations. At least she was sitting on her ar*e sniping on boards.ie about other peoples attempts to help others.
    F the begrudgers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 218 ✭✭dendof


    Watch the episode with Tuam's John Concannon in it. He's since gone on to make a Pieta House in Tuam happen.
    That is making a huge difference to society from one progam if you ask me.
    OK, people can say it's edited a certain way with emotional scenes, of course it will be - it is TV after all.
    But they are highlighting areas around the country where real issues are happening.
    If tugging at the heartstrings gets things done then well so be it.
    And even if they are using company cheques, claiming back VAT, not giving away a more substantial amount becaues they are 'millionaires' etc, they are still donating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭beeintheknow


    dendof wrote: »
    Watch the episode with Tuam's John Concannon in it. He's since gone on to make a Pieta House in Tuam happen.
    That is making a huge difference to society from one progam if you ask me.
    OK, people can say it's edited a certain way with emotional scenes, of course it will be - it is TV after all.
    But they are highlighting areas around the country where real issues are happening.
    If tugging at the heartstrings gets things done then well so be it.
    And even if they are using company cheques, claiming back VAT, not giving away a more substantial amount becaues they are 'millionaires' etc, they are still donating.

    JFC is a top man.

    True altruism does not exist anyway. If someone is giving to charity, fair play. If they can generate some publicity for their business from that, then fair play too. If they go on to donate some of the proceeds that publicity generates to charity, then the fairest of play to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 kautostar


    This lady who set up her own business decides to leave her family, go to Galway and give out her own self-made hard earned cash €40,000 according to a previous poster and you have cynical people on here giving out about it, I actually can't understand it!

    There are no negatives any normal person could take from watching this programme in my opinion. You are watching Television, of course it's sensationalistic or whatever and if she's an emotional person that's no reason to detract from the good she was trying to and did do.

    Fair play to her


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 theotherone


    As unthinkable as it is to have a discussion on an internet forum the argument that the cynical people can go F themselves is laughable. All Charity is good right. Look at the great job it has made of Africa. Where would they be today with out the great work of Charity. And look at the great job charity is doing offloading responsibily from our Goverment and the HSE to essential service's for the citizens of this Country. THis allows for a reduction in services while the expectation is lowered sure they are doing great its a charity people giving their time for a worthy cause while running on a limited budget. Everyone is collecting for some charity, when are we going to wise up and start asking some questions.

    Not having a go at anyone and fair play to folks for the effort, but its good to talk.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭roytheboyo


    40k is a pitiful amount to give away given that she can get 41% back. Self promotion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 ✭✭philboy


    galgar wrote: »
    A lot of cynical people commenting here and b*tching about this programme.
    It was okay tv, highlighted a lot of charities that many people don't even know about. So what if she cried a lot, and so what if she gets tax back for her donations. At least she was sitting on her ar*e sniping on boards.ie about other peoples attempts to help others.
    F the begrudgers.
    Totally agree with your comment. It's sickening the amount of negativity & begrudgery. There's enough negativity in the country atm, I don't think we need people looking for alterior motives to someone giving away their cash to well deserved charities.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    philboy wrote: »
    I don't think we need people looking for alterior motives

    I don't think it is possible to find alterior motives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    mikom wrote: »
    I don't think it is possible to find alterior motives.
    I reckon the word will be included in the dictionary within five years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    the Donegal 'millionaire' appeared genuine and I do not believe she was doing it to blow her own trumpet. I just found it funny the way she perceived that living off welfare means beans on toast.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,398 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    Fuinseog wrote: »
    the Donegal 'millionaire' appeared genuine and I do not believe she was doing it to blow her own trumpet. I just found it funny the way she perceived that living off welfare means beans on toast.

    I'm sure that was a producer's idea. "Oh you can't be having meat every night on the dole - what do people eat? Oh yeah, beans on toast"

    Probably more nutrients in it than a crappy frozen burger anyway!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭beeintheknow


    inisboffin wrote: »
    I'm sure that was a producer's idea. "Oh you can't be having meat every night on the dole - what do people eat? Oh yeah, beans on toast"

    Probably more nutrients in it than a crappy frozen burger anyway!

    She didn't spare the butter if I recall correctly. #minted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,398 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    She didn't spare the butter if I recall correctly. #minted

    Poor people typically eat more fats!:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭beeintheknow


    inisboffin wrote: »
    Poor people typically eat more fats!:p

    Is that why you're so fat then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 gassdfres


    galgar wrote: »
    A lot of cynical people commenting here and b*tching about this programme.
    It was okay tv, highlighted a lot of charities that many people don't even know about. So what if she cried a lot, and so what if she gets tax back for her donations. At least she was sitting on her ar*e sniping on boards.ie about other peoples attempts to help others.
    F the begrudgers.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭joeKel73


    Our secret millionaire is to become the newest "dragon" in the den;

    http://www.donegaldaily.com/2012/12/02/donegal-woman-to-become-rtes-latest-dragon/


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