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Impounding Car for No Tax and or Insurance

  • 17-09-2012 7:39pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,395 ✭✭✭


    The guards have the power to impound a vehicle if the tax is out by 2 months or more and can also impound if no insurance. And the owner is liable for storage costs etc.

    In practice how often does this happen.

    And in particular for a first offence.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    not often enough


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    It should happen every time without fail and if the vehicles are not claimed within 21days they should be scrapped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭rameire


    its happening a lot lately ( in the last 4 weeks ) check out the motors section.

    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    It should happen every time without fail and if the vehicles are not claimed within 21days they should be scrapped.

    No, sell them, don't scrap them. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    Victor wrote: »
    No, sell them, don't scrap them. :)
    If they are anything like in the UK the cars are not worth selling for anything but scrap. People buy bangers and got insurance but only pay one month of it and if their car is impounded they can just walk away from it without losing thousands.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭sliabh


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    If they are anything like in the UK the cars are not worth selling for anything but scrap. People buy bangers and got insurance but only pay one month of it and if their car is impounded they can just walk away from it without losing thousands.
    There are plenty of quite new cars driving untaxed as well. And that is to say nothing of the large number of foreign registered cars used by people resident here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭Bogger77


    in that case, crush the vehicles, and send the registered owners a video of it, with an invoice for the costs of the crushing.

    profits of selling the metal in the crushed car, goes to the state.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    A Fine Gael senator was nabbed this summer in Galway with no Road Tax. Fidelma Healy-Eames is her name. Twas all over the papers in July.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,238 ✭✭✭Patser


    There was a bit of a kerfuffle at the start of the Cannonball Run last weekend when the Guards started checking TAx and NCT and then impounding cars that didn't have them or were on trade plates. It's a strange one for me to call. These were highly expensive cars that should have been taxed and would have looked bad for the Guards to ignore them but at the same time it was a charity event and a lot of these cars were taken from storage just for the event.

    Taken from another Site but pictures in the link below of the cars being towed (including a small line of Ferraris)

    http://www.octane.ie/forum/showpost.php?p=1116814&postcount=88


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Patser wrote: »
    There was a bit of a kerfuffle at the start of the Cannonball Run last weekend when the Guards started checking TAx and NCT and then impounding cars that didn't have them or were on trade plates. It's a strange one for me to call. These were highly expensive cars that should have been taxed and would have looked bad for the Guards to ignore them but at the same time it was a charity event and a lot of these cars were taken from storage just for the event.

    Taken from another Site but pictures in the link below of the cars being towed (including a small line of Ferraris)

    http://www.octane.ie/forum/showpost.php?p=1116814&postcount=88

    That post suggested some were uninsured - which is completely unacceptable.

    As for tax, they know the rules. If you want a car on the road, at least get the 3 month tax.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,238 ✭✭✭Patser


    Victor wrote: »
    That post suggested some were uninsured - which is completely unacceptable.

    As for tax, they know the rules. If you want a car on the road, at least get the 3 month tax.


    Found a small thread on boards about this, including the fact that all 3 cars lifted were on garage plates. Also that the Guards issued a ticket to driver for 'Impersonating a memebr of 'An Garda Siochana' for flashing the blue lights on his NYPD Police Car while dresses as a New York Cop.


    As for the OP - it doesn't happen often enough. I'm a Bus Eireann driver so do be all over the country, as well as being a Dublin based petrolhead. IMO you'll see a lot more checkpoints in Dublin than almost anywhere else in the country - again IMO the further West you go the less likely you are to be checked with the exception of Limerick and Cork.

    In Dublin you'll often see cars being lifted by flatbeds at checkpoints and with ANPR being fitted to more and more patrol cars it'll probably become more common, especially as non-payment of motor tax starts to impact more and more on Govt tax take especially at local Govt levels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Patser wrote: »
    Found a small thread on boards about this, including the fact that all 3 cars lifted were on garage plates. Also that the Guards issued a ticket to driver for 'Impersonating a memebr of 'An Garda Siochana' for flashing the blue lights on his NYPD Police Car while dresses as a New York Cop.
    How is a tourist to know for certain how the local police dress?

    There is no such thing as a "ticket ... for 'Impersonating a memebr of 'An Garda Siochana' ".

    There is likely to be one for having an improperly lit vehicle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22 amlostforwords


    Can anyone explain to me why certainsections of Irish society do not have to obey the same rules and laws as therest of us? An example would be corrupt politicians(that’s all of them) members of the travailing community who never seem to havetax or insurance, drug dealers who are also above the law and so on. Its timefor revolution


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    Since 2006 the use of blue flashing lights is restricted to certain types of vehicles (orange are also restricted).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini



    Can anyone explain to me why certainsections of Irish society do not have to obey the same rules and laws as therest of us?

    The same should apply to fonts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Can anyone explain to me why certainsections of Irish society do not have to obey the same rules and laws as therest of us? An example would be corrupt politicians(that’s all of them) members of the travailing community who never seem to havetax or insurance, drug dealers who are also above the law and so on. Its timefor revolution

    I think you are applying a rather broad brush there - many travellers are perfectly decent people.

    The issue you are pointing to is sociopathy, extending into psychopathy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭Dave147


    No wonder there are cars on the road without tax, we're in a recession and motor tax is still huge. €5-600 for a 1.9TDI is scandalous. €200 a year would be a much fairer price for those of us who a) can't afford a new car, b) don't want a tiny engine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    yeah and lets reduce VAT to 5% and get rid of income tax altogether. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭Dave147


    Yeah because that's what I was getting at..
    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


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