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Etsy Engagement Ring
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17-09-2012 2:57pm#1
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My brother had a piece of jewellery made in the us & shipped for delivery with registered post to Ireland . He wasnt in when it was delivered & got a vat bill of a couple of hundred from customs ( it was on the declaration what was inside- GOD knows why they did that but it was Reg.Post . While organising to pay the VAT he didn't pick up the parcel within the 3 days & some dumdum returned it to the original sender ( terms & conditions); & off it went back to America.
When it was eventually re-shipped back to Ireland, despite already having post-paid the VAT & charges; he was charged VAT AGAIN & had to go through a huge rigmarole of paying it again; trying to proove it was the same piece, & trying to reclaim the second VAT payment.
. He rues the day.
GF LOVED it thou ; somewhat spoiled for him
Belfast sounds much easier!0 -
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JustAThought wrote: »My brother had a piece of jewellery made in the us & shipped for delivery with registered post to Ireland . He wasnt in when it was delivered & got a vat bill of a couple of hundred from customs ( it was on the declaration what was inside- GOD knows why they did that but it was Reg.Post . While organising to pay the VAT he didn't pick up the parcel within the 3 days & some dumdum returned it to the original sender ( terms & conditions); & off it went back to America.
When it was eventually re-shipped back to Ireland, despite already having post-paid the VAT & charges; he was charged VAT AGAIN & had to go through a huge rigmarole of paying it again; trying to proove it was the same piece, & trying to reclaim the second VAT payment.
. He rues the day.
GF LOVED it thou ; somewhat spoiled for him
Belfast sounds much easier!
This is the main reason that would turn me off buying from the USA! Some people will tell you they got away without paying vat and duties but honestly they are getting so strict now and are opening up 99% of packages! Hullothere the Belfast jewellers do not have a great selection according to Steve but he will ring them in advance for you if you want to go up! Steve is in Birmingham and all the jewellery is hallmarked whereas in the USA the jewellery will not be. If you are interested in white sapphires over moissanites I would pick moissanites as I think the white sapphires look cloudy! Here is a video of a moissanite and a diamond beside each other (I still can't figure out which is which !)
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Yes I have been in contact with Steve as I want this ring set http://www.moissaniteco.com/round-moissanite-halo-wedding-set-p-10241.html
For a 1carat centre stone in 18ct white gold Steve quoted £1000 and £1600 in platnium. I have never seen a moissanite in person as there is no one in Ireland with the patent yet, but there is a jewellers in Belfast that Steve supplies so I was thinking of going up for a look! He also supplies littlewoods but he said the stones will be better if it is custom made as they will be hand picked! If you want a diamond Vivienne's jewellers in stillorgan have 50% off everything at the mo! If I don't go for a moissanite I am going to go to her she is very reasonable and all rings are made and only one of each! I do think diamonds are so over priced though! If it's sapphires you are after there is a jewellers in Terenure called pear perfect and they have stunning rings I
absolutely adore this one http://www.perfectring.ie/Engagement-Rings/Coloured-Stone-Rings/Pearl_Perfect_Design_Room_-_Blaine_Gemstone_Diamond_Ring-1932.aspx
Wow – LOVE the ring you have picked, & £1000 for white gold seems so reasonable. Are you thinking White Gold or Platnium? Platnium seems so much more expensive, but I would imagine it to be a lot more durable. What are your thoughs on Palladium? I have seems a few with this, or with a mix of Palladium and white gold – Looks good, I wonder if it is durable?
I am defo going to contact Steve, really like some of his rings. Thanks for the top on Vivennes too, might have to pop in! Only starting to look now, and suddenly realised how much there is to consider! I though it was just pick a ring you like, but a lot more to it! Really don’t want to spend a fortune and want to get good value for money, but want a gorg ring non the less! Have gone off the White Sapphires, have read that after time they start to loose their sparkle and get cloudy, so that is why I am so templted by Moissanite!Hi OP
I shop on ETSY more than any other website.
I've bought mostly jewellery and recently we spent a HUGE amount of cash on a second engagement ring and band(long story)
We had to pay import tax but I still feel we got bang for our buck.
I've since brought the rings to a jewellers in Dublin to get resized and he complimented me on them and valued them up a bit on what we paid(I didnt tell him what we paid).
That said - I wouldnt buy such an expensive item again online as the stress in case I didnt like it, if it was a dud etc wasnt worth it.
Not sure if that helps...
Thanks for the comments Beltzar – Was the import tax a lot? It seems to be luck of the draw if you get stung for import tax or not….JustAThought wrote: »My brother had a piece of jewellery made in the us & shipped for delivery with registered post to Ireland . He wasnt in when it was delivered & got a vat bill of a couple of hundred from customs ( it was on the declaration what was inside- GOD knows why they did that but it was Reg.Post . While organising to pay the VAT he didn't pick up the parcel within the 3 days & some dumdum returned it to the original sender ( terms & conditions); & off it went back to America.
When it was eventually re-shipped back to Ireland, despite already having post-paid the VAT & charges; he was charged VAT AGAIN & had to go through a huge rigmarole of paying it again; trying to proove it was the same piece, & trying to reclaim the second VAT payment.
. He rues the day.
GF LOVED it thou ; somewhat spoiled for him
Belfast sounds much easier!
That sounds like a nightmare! I was thinking the same, was thinking of shipping to work address if I did go with it, but to be honest for such an important purchase it does sounds like an awful lot of stress. The worry of waiting for it to come! Your brothers story sounds like an total disaster, and all the hassle of paying the VAT twice, thanks for letting me know, I am thinking Belfast or the UK is a lot safer, and less stressfulThis is the main reason that would turn me off buying from the USA! Some people will tell you they got away without paying vat and duties but honestly they are getting so strict now and are opening up 99% of packages! Hullothere the Belfast jewellers do not have a great selection according to Steve but he will ring them in advance for you if you want to go up! Steve is in Birmingham and all the jewellery is hallmarked whereas in the USA the jewellery will not be. If you are interested in white sapphires over moissanites I would pick moissanites as I think the white sapphires look cloudy! Here is a video of a moissanite and a diamond beside each other (I still can't figure out which is which !)
http://vimeo.com/m/24371182
Thanks for the tip on the Belfast jeweller, I have friends living up there so will be up soon anyhow, so would be good to see the rings in the flesh! Ya agree on the white sapphires, don’t think they will last in the same way. I am really interested in mossanite, which is which in that video, genuinely cant tell! So are you any close to making a decision on the ring??! Would you consider going over the Birmingham for a look?0 -
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Hullothere wrote: »I am swaying towards 18ct white gold as I don't like the look of platnium when it dulls and it happens quickly! It looks grey! I know white gold needs to be played every 18 months or so but I don't care! It so cheap like max €20! Vivienne's told me to get white gold and I read a good article on weddings online from seamus from volitaire and he prefers white gold! I have read up on palladium but the jewellers here don't seem to recommend it! Whatever metal you get your engagement ring in you must get the same for your wedding ring. I was tempted to go over to Birmingham but Steve offers 100% money back so I wouldn't bother! I have been really cheeky bu dropping into jewellers trying on rings and taking pictures!! So I am getting a feel for what suits me! Make sure when you are trying them on you also try on a wedding band! O and I actually don't know which is which in the video! I got it from a website on there forum!! http://betterthandiamond.com/
Ya I am the same, I much prefer the look of the white gold. My friend got Platnium and says it much better than white gold, but I think that everyone has their own opinion on it! As you said you have to get white gold played, but at €20 I would live with that no problem at all! Would be nice to get it done anyhow and have it look at lovely and shiny again! Ya I know that some mens weddings rings are done in Palladium, but no one seems to be bothered on it for an engagement ring, I think it looks quite dull.
I am going to start going to jewellery shops and trying some on, only just started this and have picked loads I like the look of online, but as you said you don’t know what they will look like till you try them on! I really like the halo style of ring, I know I have read the odd time you might loose a tiny stone, but shur that is the same with any ring I would imagine! I love the one you have picked our from Steve, its gorg! I picked this really unusual on online too, duno what is drawing me to it, and maybe would get sick of it: http://www.etsy.com/listing/90895532/bezel-set-bubble-diamond-ring-in-14k Its in white sapphires, but gives the idea. Maybes its not really engagement ring, just like the look of it!
It really is so hard to decide on everything!!
If the moissanite stones get loose they will be replaced for free! As there is a lifetime guarantee. Whatever ring you like get at the end of the day you will be the one wearing it! I am torn between a halo and a round solitaire. The thing about halos are they are so popular at the moment but maybe a single solitaire would be better long term. I am a ring size m and anything less than a carat on my hand as a single round stone looks vile whereas with a halo you could get a 0.4 centre stone and it will look the same size as a 1 carat!
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Good to know you can get moissanite stones replaced – Really cant find one thing wrong with getting a moissanite ring at this stage, esp with a lifetime guarantee! I think they look fab, and I really wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between it and a diamond.If the moissanite stones get loose they will be replaced for free! As there is a lifetime guarantee. Whatever ring you like get at the end of the day you will be the one wearing it! I am torn between a halo and a round solitaire. The thing about halos are they are so popular at the moment but maybe a single solitaire would be better long term. I am a ring size m and anything less than a carat on my hand as a single round stone looks vile whereas with a halo you could get a 0.4 centre stone and it will look the same size as a 1 carat!
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The ring on the left is a 1 carat diamond in platinum with a price tag of E11,000 and the one on the right is a 0.4 carat centre stone with a 0.2oish halo diamonds in platinum with a price tag of E3,000.
Thanks for posting the pic, €8grand in the different of those rings, and the one of the right to me looks so much more expensive! I am defo sold on a halo style, I just love it! I know what you mean though, maybe a solitaire would be more long lasting, but I really think the halo style is timeless too, and looks really great! Also as you said if you want at least 1c on a single stone, a halo style would be the way to go to get the same look!0 -
Hullothere wrote: »
Good to know you can get moissanite stones replaced – Really cant find one thing wrong with getting a moissanite ring at this stage, esp with a lifetime guarantee! I think they look fab, and I really wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between it and a diamond.If the moissanite stones get loose they will be replaced for free! As there is a lifetime guarantee. Whatever ring you like get at the end of the day you will be the one wearing it! I am torn between a halo and a round solitaire. The thing about halos are they are so popular at the moment but maybe a single solitaire would be better long term. I am a ring size m and anything less than a carat on my hand as a single round stone looks vile whereas with a halo you could get a 0.4 centre stone and it will look the same size as a 1 carat!
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The ring on the left is a 1 carat diamond in platinum with a price tag of E11,000 and the one on the right is a 0.4 carat centre stone with a 0.2oish halo diamonds in platinum with a price tag of E3,000.
Thanks for posting the pic, €8grand in the different of those rings, and the one of the right to me looks so much more expensive! I am defo sold on a halo style, I just love it! I know what you mean though, maybe a solitaire would be more long lasting, but I really think the halo style is timeless too, and looks really great! Also as you said if you want at least 1c on a single stone, a halo style would be the way to go to get the same look!
They are diamonds not moissanites! I am thinking of getting a 1carat moissanite halo as there is very little price difference between 0.75 and 1 carat! Or a 1.25 sing stone. I tried on that ring above and it is not huge or even big on my hand! Diamonds are such a rip off! I would be terrified walking around with a €11000 ring on my finger!0 -
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This is a halo with side diamonds centre stone is 0.75 I think. I just feel that a plain band would not look nice. Another thing to make sure is that the halo is high setting (the below one is not and therefore not wedding ring friendly!!)
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I had a conversation with blue nile about it 2 weeks ago! In the states 14carat is more popular as it needs to be replated less as it contains less gold. But in Europe 18carat is more popular as it contains more gold! I would go for 18carat tbh! Are the quotes for the first halo ring I posted or the halo ring on my hand that I posted? Let me know how you get on in Belfast as I have never seen moissanites in the flesh! Are you interested in blue sapphires or tanzanite? If so qvc have some lovely ones also! If you have sky tv moissanite uk are on Ideal world shopping channel, you can also check out the clips online.
So 18k WG the way to go so, sounds good!
The quotes are for these halo rings, shows the 1 carat
and .5 carat 
styles. Defo want to head to Belfast soon. Thanks for the tip on Ideal world, watched it when I was off yesterday and I still think they look great!! I wouldn’t be able to tell the different with a diamond anyhow! Must have a look at qvc too to check out other stones. Are you considering any other stones, or set on the Mossinate? 0 -
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Sorry for bumping this old Thread but did any of you end up getting a ring from Steve at Moissanite.co.uk, we are considering going to him for our engagement ring many due to how competitive the prices are compared to Diamonds. If you did how do you love your Moissanite ring and would you recommend it as a engagement ring ?
No! I went with diamonds in the end. Got my ring in Thomas gear and got amazing value. He sells a lot of the same rings as diamond heaven in the Birmingham jewellery quarter (mine was cheaper with him!). Absolutely love it and not much more expensive than the price I was quoted with moissante! And the diamonds are certified. I have since seen my ring in two very popular well known jewellers for over 3 times the price I paid for it (the diamonds were the same colour, cut and clarity). I got a three stone (trilogy) 1 carat ring in 18 carat white gold. It is over a year old and still doesn't need to be replated. I found Martin gear the cheapest for solitaires and rocks the cheapest for halos if that helps.
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