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Ps4 or Xbox 720

  • 16-09-2012 8:02pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭


    Just out of interest what is your opinions on the next gen of consoles?Which do you think will do better in sales? Are they coming out to soon( supposedly will be out by Christmas next year )?who will get better exclusives ? And the price?
    In my opinion I think if more developers were making the most of the systems (gta gow uncharted halo ) then there wouldn't be much of a push to upgrade

    Well? 10 votes

    PS4
    0%
    Xbox720
    60%
    smashAngronriceroChavwayskellso81Cienciano 6 votes
    Atari Jaguar
    40%
    GraysonStimpyoneGran HermanoVanishingActs 4 votes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 108 ✭✭jimmyjoe951


    Also obviously which one can you see yourself buying:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭johnmcdnl


    Atari jaguar still will kick either of their arses


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭wampyrus77


    720 at least that backwards compatibility for previous consoles xbox 360 and xbox games discs

    while ps4 isnt backwards compatibility for previous consoles ps3, PS2 and ps1 games discs


    Sony Clarifies that their PS4 wont be backwards compatibles ps3, ps2 and ps1.

    News: PlayStation 4 Not Backwards Compatible With Retail or Digital Games.

    that means you own ps3 or ps2 or ps1 games they wont work on ps4,

    going have pay them again to work on ps4 and download them virtual to work on ps4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80i_6UnnsRg

    http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/20/4010604/PS4-will-not-support-PS3-games

    what i mean only ps4 games and bluray dvd or dvd or cd play only work ps4, if want play other playstations games going pay for them and download digital to work on ps4


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭seanbmc


    Sticking to my PC for gaming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Fanboy war imminent


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 262 ✭✭Push Pop


    Think Xbox will get my custom but if there are any red rings type issues there will be violence!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    Ever notice on these "Xbox OR Ps" threads the Pc gamers always come in to inform you they will be playing their PCs

    Ill be going Ps4 just because of Naughty Dog :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭seanbmc


    Timmyctc wrote: »
    Ever notice on these "Xbox OR Ps" threads the Pc gamers always come in to inform you they will be playing their PCs

    Ill be going Ps4 just because of Naughty Dog :D


    :)

    Ah in fairness though, I may get a PS4 for The Last of Us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    seanbmc wrote: »
    :)

    Ah in fairness though, I may get a PS4 for The Last of Us.

    Thats PS3


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    Chinpool wrote: »
    Thats PS3

    Heard Certain titles will come out on both. That's not one of them isit? In any case. Naughty Dog are exclusive to PS and everyone of their games so far has blown my mindhole :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    colecovision ftw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    Push Pop wrote: »
    Think Xbox will get my custom but if there are any red rings type issues there will be violence!

    I don't think I'll "jump in" so blindly this time around, I was burned with a launch day console, or should I say 3 of them...

    I think the thing that attracted me to the Xbox in the first place (games!) seems to play second fiddle to the endless apps and social ****e I don't really care about that they have nowadays - whilst I'm interested in the new Xbox I have to say the PS4 looks brilliant...

    Apparently Kinect will be mandatory, eugh...

    And I have a PS3 also but its my least used console tbf - so wondering should I bother with either and just get a PC...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    Timmyctc wrote: »
    Heard Certain titles will come out on both. That's not one of them isit? In any case. Naughty Dog are exclusive to PS and everyone of their games so far has blown my mindhole :D

    I doubt it in terms of major exclusives since porting would be an absolute whore. Could be available on the streaming service alright


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭Bipolar Joe


    Until they decide to sort out all the fucking bugs that destroy the consoles, I won't be buying either.

    EDIT:
    Fieldog wrote: »
    games... seems to play second fiddle to the endless apps and social ****e I don't really care about that they have nowadays

    This crap REALLY turns me off. There seem to be too many games that throw in the single player mode as an after thought. I much prefer to play single player, other people piss me off too much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 372 ✭✭The Pheasant


    I'll be getting the PS4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭Pushtrak


    Impossible to say which will sell better. As to which I'll buy? Probably both. The question I have is which first, and when. And that is, again, something impossible to say. I got the regular Xbox, and I got the 360 because just as I loved Morrowind, KotOR and Jade Empire, I knew Bethesda and BioWare were going to come out with brilliant games. At the time, they were console exclusives to the Xbox, so it seemed like the only way I'd get to play their games would be 360.

    There still are great games for the 360, and there are ones for the PS3. I think the winner of the two for me has to be the 360, but the PS3 obviously did enough to say I bought it. It seems logical to figure the next generation will be the same for both systems. I'll also be getting the Wii U. Windwaker HD, Bayonetta 2, any other Zelda games, Mario games, and if they get JRPGs like The Last Story or Xenoblade, but with the way sales are at the moment that doesn't look too likely.

    Honestly, the sales momentum for the Wii U is very poor. Yes, it may pick up a lot as more games get released, but around the end of the year, the market is going to be highly competitive with two rival systems being sold. Anyway, I'm looking forward to E3 and see what the 3 of them have to show. Sony have shown a lot already, so it'll be interesting to see if they have much to show at E3. Well, they'll show what the console looks like, anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Atari Jaguar
    Fieldog wrote: »
    I don't think I'll "jump in" so blindly this time around, I was burned with a launch day console, or should I say 3 of them...

    I think the thing that attracted me to the Xbox in the first place (games!) seems to play second fiddle to the endless apps and social ****e I don't really care about that they have nowadays - whilst I'm interested in the new Xbox I have to say the PS4 looks brilliant...

    Apparently Kinect will be mandatory, eugh...

    And I have a PS3 also but its my least used console tbf - so wondering should I bother with either and just get a PC...

    But the Kinect and social apps won't detract from the games. It may even enhance it.

    I'm thinking 720. Well, I will anyway. All my mates own xBox and we all play CoD together. So it makes little sense to get a PS4.

    But even then, Sonys events have been lack luster and so have their products. I'm not expecting much from the PS4, but I might be surprised.

    EDIT: BTW, the xBox operating system is being designed by the guy who designed NT4 and XP. So expect stability. Plus I forgot to add, I'm hoping they get full skype intergration up and running. That'll mix in nicely with the Kinects webcam. Windows 8 (for tablets and phone) is a great OS so I'm hoping they won't disappoint with the nextbox.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Clandestine


    If I do get either one, it'll be a few years down the line. Not to mention I'm sound with my PC for the moment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,796 ✭✭✭scwazrh


    With the ps4 coming out this year why are Sony releasing such massive titles such as last of us and gta5 on ps3?if they released them on Ps4 surely more people would run out and buy it but with the games coming to ps3 there's no need to buy the new console for a while.It doesn't make sense to me ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Xbox has no games and why the fuk would anyone pay €50 just to play online on the game you already own? PS4 is the way to go


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭wampyrus77


    im just saying if ive pay a fortune in ps3 games, now going keep my ps3 console and buy ps4 at €600


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,588 ✭✭✭ahnowbrowncow


    wampyrus77 wrote: »
    720 at least that backwards compatibility for previous consoles xbox 360 and xbox games discs

    while ps4 isnt backwards compatibility for previous consoles ps3, PS2 and ps1 games discs


    Sony Clarifies that their PS4 wont be backwards compatibles ps3, ps2 and ps1.

    News: PlayStation 4 Not Backwards Compatible With Retail or Digital Games.

    that means you own ps3 or ps2 or ps1 games they wont work on ps4,

    going have pay them again to work on ps4 and download them virtual to work on ps4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80i_6UnnsRg

    http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/20/4010604/PS4-will-not-support-PS3-games

    what i mean only ps4 games and bluray dvd or dvd or cd play only work ps4, if want play other playstations games going pay for them and download digital to work on ps4

    xbox 720 isn't going to be backwards compatible either
    Sitec wrote: »
    I'd imagine Sony will charge with the PS4.

    I don't think so, PSN will likely be free and they'll do something similar to ps plus were they charge a fee


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    scwazrh wrote: »
    With the ps4 coming out this year why are Sony releasing such massive titles such as last of us and gta5 on ps3?if they released them on Ps4 surely more people would run out and buy it but with the games coming to ps3 there's no need to buy the new console for a while.It doesn't make sense to me ...

    The playstation 2 had relatively big releases coming out for PS2 for the year prior to the PS3. Grand Theft Auto would get far more sales on the existing consoles than it would as a launch title. There's never strong launch titles on consoles, in fact generally they're fairly lacklustre and barely utilise the hardware. Both the PS3 and 360 are rather ancient as hardware goes so an update is somewhat necessary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    scwazrh wrote: »
    With the ps4 coming out this year why are Sony releasing such massive titles such as last of us and gta5 on ps3?if they released them on Ps4 surely more people would run out and buy it but with the games coming to ps3 there's no need to buy the new console for a while.It doesn't make sense to me ...

    Completely different architecture to what the games have been built on plus a userbase takes time to grow. Financially it makes sense to release on an established console instead of hoping people rush out & buy the console purely for the game at launch


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    scwazrh wrote: »
    With the ps4 coming out this year why are Sony releasing such massive titles such as last of us and gta5 on ps3?if they released them on Ps4 surely more people would run out and buy it but with the games coming to ps3 there's no need to buy the new console for a while.It doesn't make sense to me ...

    GTA IV grossed $500,000,000 in its first week. GTA 5 is likely to outdo that.

    If they released it as a PS4 title there's no guarantee at all that they'd come anywhere close to those type of sales.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Sitec wrote: »
    I'd imagine Sony will charge with the PS4.

    Not a hope they will, that's the appeal of PSN. Even if they did I wouldn't pay for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    Sitec wrote: »

    I'd imagine Sony will charge with the PS4.

    I would say they will this time around, similar to Xbox Gold...

    I'm not writing off the next Xbox just yet - if it impresses the pants off me I will get one....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    1ZRed wrote: »
    Not a hope they will, that's the appeal of PSN. Even if they did I wouldn't pay for it.

    Id say theyll keep basic playing of games free, have 1 tier for all the uploading & other social features then have the higher priced tier replacing ps+


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Phill Ewinn


    Night in the turkey house and two acid is better than any computer game. Might even be the best sex you ever had if you get the right trip.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    I also read somewhere that the next Xbox will have to be connected to the internet at all times in order to work and play your games. You're also going to have to install all your games on the HDD, knowing Microsoft they'll charge through the roof for that special hard drive.

    With everything I've heard the next Xbox is a weaker and unappealing console compared to the PS4.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭wampyrus77


    do sony realize there recession in this country us irish cant afford €600 for new console


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    wampyrus77 wrote: »
    do sony realize there recession in this country us irish cant afford €600 for new console
    Yet we can upgrade our €600+ smartphones annually

    We're free to spend our money on whatever the fuck we please.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Chinpool wrote: »
    Id say theyll keep basic playing of games free, have 1 tier for all the uploading & other social features then have the higher priced tier replacing ps+

    I think they'll just have the system they have now where plus has a few extra features and you get free games on top.

    To me that's a far better deal than Xbox gold where you get nothing at all from it. I've already made my €35 I spent on ps+ back 3 times over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭Doylers


    I actually made my decision a few weeks ago. Neither. Im done with xbox gaming, this is coming from a guy playing since the first xbox and gaming online a long assssss time. When I think about the cost of say an xbox or ps4 new at launch its very steep you looking at 400+ easily. The console will then have a life cycle of 10years? 10 years is a long time in terms of gaming and computers, hardware gets outdated very fast.

    I have decided to build a computer it will destroy any new console that comes out and will continue to do so years to come. The when my graphics slow down, I sell my graphics card for whatever I can get, and upgrade to a new one and off I go again.

    Granted I may lose certain games but who cares, ps4 is using an amd architecture I figure games will only be getting easier to port from here on out. And the new gears of war was crap anyway :D My two cents


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    Be getting a decent laptop or PC, TBH.
    But, if push comes to shove (as in we get good exclusives, like the Yakuza series or the Way of the Samurai series on the PS4), I'll be getting PS4.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    What advantage would either of these have over my Atari 2600?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,580 ✭✭✭✭Riesen_Meal


    jester77 wrote: »
    What advantage would either of these have over my Atari 2600?

    They would be closer to Jaguar spec tbh... :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    I'm a playstation fan and never gave xbox a chance but always considered getting one but have been happy playing away with the playstation.

    God! I remember the day when the ps3 came out. I think it was sometime in early 2007. Had a ps3 prebooked and went into town for a midnight pick up. Time flys by, it's so scary. I remember it as if it was yesterday. The playstation that was bought is still going good today. Can't believe it's almost time to replace it with the next.

    So! What will the playstation 4 be like? I mean like, ps3 has been very good and still is. So how will the ps4 differ from the ps3?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Atari Jaguar
    xbox 720 isn't going to be backwards compatible either

    Source? I hadn't heard anything about this and I can't find it with a quick google either.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,417 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Have both consoles now, xbox live is far better than psn. Playstation better for watching bluray (cause you can't on xbox).

    Xbox better for online gaming, movie streaming and music playing.

    Xbox much better cross platform support.

    Playstation store better in the sense you can pay with real money rather than points, but xbox store better in the sense that it has a lot more and a lot better content.

    If the game is on both consoles, I buy ps3 if I won't play online, otherwise xbox. With the exception of the xbox games that currently come as a set of coasters rather than 1 disc, but I suspect that'll change next time round and both will come with bluray drives as standard.

    Bluray saved the ps3, there was a sizeable number of people who bought one cause it was at the time a cheap bluray player.

    I suspect that ultimately I'll end up owning both the new consoles, but it'll be the 720 first no doubt.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 799 ✭✭✭Logical_Bear


    Timmyctc wrote: »
    Ever notice on these "Xbox OR Ps" threads the Pc gamers always come in to inform you they will be playing their PCs
    consoles are dumbed down gaming machines.Fact.

    Hows that for fanboism?:pac::pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 799 ✭✭✭Logical_Bear


    On topic now, will wait for the prices to drop to what they are now for the ps3/xbox and as soon as both can prove their reliability.Have had 2 xboxs and 1 ps3 die on me and my second ps3 is acting the maggot on me now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    consoles are dumbed down gaming machines.Fact.

    Hows that for fanboism?:pac::pac:
    But that's exactly what they are. And it's refreshing to just pop in and play instead of digging through forums and threatening to boot nvidia in the balls over and over and over


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    I have both a 360 and a PS3 but i'll be buying the PS4 first because i always buy a Playstation first.

    Why?

    Because i do.

    Why?

    Piss off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭Napper Hawkins


    Both preferably but it'll be the PS4 first for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 799 ✭✭✭Logical_Bear


    Both preferably but it'll be the PS4 first for me.
    actually i'd probably be the same as most of my mates are on PS so they'd probably migrate to the ps4


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    wampyrus77 wrote: »
    do sony realize there recession in this country us irish cant afford €600 for new console

    Better start saving so.

    As far as I can remember with ps3 it was due for release a few months before they went on sale, but the release date was pushed back.

    It was mentioned here in this thread that the ps3 is due for release later this year but I doubt we will get to see the new one before xmas and they'll push it in 2014, more than likely. Plenty of time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    On topic now, will wait for the prices to drop to what they are now for the ps3/xbox and as soon as both can prove their reliability.Have had 2 xboxs and 1 ps3 die on me and my second ps3 is acting the maggot on me now

    That's strange. My ps3 is 6 years+ old and never gave any trouble and is still going good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭ArthurG


    wampyrus77 wrote: »
    720 at least that backwards compatibility for previous consoles xbox 360 and xbox games discs

    while ps4 isnt backwards compatibility for previous consoles ps3, PS2 and ps1 games discs


    Sony Clarifies that their PS4 wont be backwards compatibles ps3, ps2 and ps1.

    News: PlayStation 4 Not Backwards Compatible With Retail or Digital Games.

    that means you own ps3 or ps2 or ps1 games they wont work on ps4,

    going have pay them again to work on ps4 and download them virtual to work on ps4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80i_6UnnsRg

    http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/20/4010604/PS4-will-not-support-PS3-games

    what i mean only ps4 games and bluray dvd or dvd or cd play only work ps4, if want play other playstations games going pay for them and download digital to work on ps4

    Indeed, this is bad news. The first thing I plan on doing with my new super powerful PS4 is of course try to play a 20 year old PS1 game. The fact I won't be able to do this is shocking and very short sighted on Sony's part......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,588 ✭✭✭ahnowbrowncow


    Grayson wrote: »
    Source? I hadn't heard anything about this and I can't find it with a quick google either.

    Just read some articles were developers were saying they doubted either ps4 or xbox 720 would be, they were right about the ps4.

    We'll know for definite pretty soon if it is or not when microsoft unveil the new xbox in the next few weeks.


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