gun dog e collars / training young dog

vincentf

Hi lads,

If anyone uses an e-collar on their gun dogs, please can you all pass on training tips and which e-collar is the best value for money that's on the market now.
I' m going to be rough shooting with an HPR dog soon, she's nearly a year old. She has the whistle and commands down to a T, pointing-flushing,ignores gunshot, but will push out too far sometimes and self hunt, will go to ground and dig rabbits and foxes out,as is the custom for the breed to hunt fur and feather. I want her to focus on birds only at the moment.
For rough shooting what king of range is optimum, what makes are robust / waterproof, re-chargeable, best value for money.
Thanks and regards,

Vin

Finnt

I don't hunt but I use a dogtra 2000ncp on my Irish setter he'd spot something in the wood and nothing would bring him back!
It's got a good range it's water proof and got 120 variable settings,
I think they're an old model now but I've never had trouble with it.
The one thing I'd say if youve never used a collar before is be fierce gentle with the dog. I've seem lads use them shouting at the dog and keep turning up the dial till the does what he wants or cowers down,
You'll end up with a dog scared of his own sh*te.
But there a great tool if used right.

Alchemist2

Not to be smart Vincent but if the dog had the whistle down to a T he should come back when called.... back to basic's mate.... most ppl believe their dogs are 100% on the whistle, that is till they introduce game into the equation... imo this should be done gradually over a number of weeks every dog is different so its hard to say how many but the end result should be no matter what the distraction ppl, other dogs, game etc the dog will come back when called.... i have an e collar since about 2002 and used it on several dogs but i can safely say that if you are patient enough you can overcome this without need for collar,mind you it all depends on where your priority's lie?

Brian728

Alchemist2 wrote: »

Not to be smart Vincent but if the dog had the whistle down to a T he should come back when called.... back to basic's mate.... most ppl believe their dogs are 100% on the whistle, that is till they introduce game into the equation... imo this should be done gradually over a number of weeks every dog is different so its hard to say how many but the end result should be no matter what the distraction ppl, other dogs, game etc the dog will come back when called.... i have an e collar since about 2002 and used it on several dogs but i can safely say that if you are patient enough you can overcome this without need for collar,mind you it all depends on where your priority's lie?

Good point Alchemist, as I have learned just yesterday. My 15 month old black Lab is superb on the whistle. I could throw a dummy and take a shot. He would sit there and wait patiently until I cast him out - no bother. Yesterday morning my friend shot a duck - in the blink of an eye, my Lab was gone retreiving the bird and there was no stopping him! My fault - so back to basics indeed!