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Laser Eye Surgery - save €2,100

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭Jarren




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭jameshayes


    Jarren wrote: »

    na, it doesn't - if you have a -.50 prescription and 0 astigmatism maybe but otherwise it's 2500+

    I've just had treatment done by laservision, great service and a great treatment - I was -8.0 with large astigmatisms in both eyes at time of surgery...

    I got it on the deal when it was on livingsocial last time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭Jarren


    Compare that to http://www.laservision.ie/content/leftnav/pricing-and-finance

    Can you see the difference in the pricing structure ?


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,631 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    I dont know about anybody else, but Im not sure I could go for a bargain surgery? It just feels very Dr Nick Riveria-sh. Call 555- Doctorb. The B is for Bargain!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭Jarren


    Nah, I'm all for checking the job quality first ,it doesn't mean that I would like to get ripped off though .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭Oracle


    I know this op is all the rage but .... zapping your eyes with a laser, doesn't sound like a good idea to me! :eek:


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,781 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    I got this a few months back and I'm very happy with it. John is a nice guy, went through it all with me in great detail.

    The surgery itself is incredibly short and simple. It's 'mildly uncomfortable' for a few minutes - that's about the worst I could say about it.

    If you are thinking of getting it done it makes sense to get this and not pay 3.5k - 4k like everyone else I know who lot laser..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭Jarren


    I had worse actually , a very long time ago that type of surgery was not available and in order to have my sight corrected(vision was getting worst anyway) a surgeon performed the eye surgery with a......




    a diamond knife




    I kid you not


    I had that surgery done in 1995 and had just 2 side effects

    - I could see in the complete dark for about 3/4 moths after the surgery
    - My sight was light sensitive for about 3 years after the surgery and had blurry vision when looking straight at the light during the night.

    and no



    I'm not a vampire :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭Limestone1


    Oracle wrote: »
    I know this op is all the rage but .... zapping your eyes with a laser, doesn't sound like a good idea to me! :eek:

    Yeah but obviously you are bit biased seeing as Oracles don't even need eyes to see ............


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭jameshayes


    Zascar wrote: »
    I got this a few months back and I'm very happy with it. John is a nice guy, went through it all with me in great detail.

    The surgery itself is incredibly short and simple. It's 'mildly uncomfortable' for a few minutes - that's about the worst I could say about it.

    If you are thinking of getting it done it makes sense to get this and not pay 3.5k - 4k like everyone else I know who lot laser..

    +1 for Dr. Fenton - highly regarded in his field I believe, rest of the staff are great too


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    So how come the Optilaize TV ad says each eye from 395 euro then?

    I dont see how that link above is such a bargain at that price???????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭ian_m


    I wouldn't go near livingsocial. I have had a terrible time with them in the past.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭jameshayes


    paddy147 wrote: »
    So how come the Optilaize TV ad says each eye from 395 euro then?

    I dont see how that link above is such a bargain at that price???????

    they always say "from" and that from word is the most ambiguous word in the world.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Can you just imagine.......:eek::D









    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt6Zyb7zOeU


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    antodeco wrote: »
    I dont know about anybody else, but Im not sure I could go for a bargain surgery? It just feels very Dr Nick Riveria-sh. Call 555- Doctorb. The B is for Bargain!


    HI Everybody.........:pac:






    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTz8rKJk-Vw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Soarer


    Jarren wrote: »
    - I could see in the complete dark for about 3/4 moths after the surgery

    That's class! And way cheaper than nightvision goggles too!

    I'm all over it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭Jarren


    Yeap it was only temporary night vision problem,didn't have to turn the lights on when going to the loo:D .


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    ian_m wrote: »
    I wouldn't go near livingsocial. I have had a terrible time with them in the past.

    for the love of god, livingsocial are not the laser eye surgeons, they are just a group discount website...........:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭marketty


    I would be interested in hearing from any one else who has been to this clinic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,157 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    I had my eye surgery done in 2006, probably the most expensive time in Irish history to get it done, and didn't scrimp on it either. Well, they're my eyes after all, I thought i'd spend a bit on them just in case.

    €2,998 I spent on them. There are loads of different types of Laser/Lasik surgery using different equipment.

    Also I had a surgeon perform my operation. Some places use "technicians" who do not have a PHD or similar. :eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,359 ✭✭✭whiteandlight


    Mine was 4k with a 25% cash back from aviva health policy. I was -6.5 and -5.5. The worse your eye sight the more expensive it is.
    Best decision ever tho-happy out!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭ian_m


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    for the love of god, livingsocial are not the laser eye surgeons, they are just a group discount website...........:rolleyes:

    Yes. All well and good when things go right but when things go wrong you can be left with very few avenues to explore. Purchase of goods via vouchers is a grey area. Your contract is with living social rather than the third party which in this case is the laser eye surgery company.

    Maybe this company is fine, but based on my personal experience I wouldn't risk it as resolutions to problems via living social are a nightmare. I wouldn't want to see problems happening to anybody else. Its just not worth the saving.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭fl4pj4ck


    ian_m wrote: »
    Yes. All well and good when things go right but when things go wrong you can be left with very few avenues to explore. Purchase of goods via vouchers is a grey area. Your contract is with living social rather than the third party which in this case is the laser eye surgery company.

    Maybe this company is fine, but based on my personal experience I wouldn't risk it as resolutions to problems via living social are a nightmare. I wouldn't want to see problems happening to anybody else. Its just not worth the saving.

    my guess is you've never heard about a chargeback then?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,781 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    The difference between this and the €399 etc deals you see online is that this is the best type of laser surgery you can get. If you don't know, do some research but there are many different types. Mainly, what you need to make sure you are getting is "Wavefront" technology which is the latest and graeatest type of laser that gives you the best possible chance of the operation going perfectly and getting the best eyesight. Those 399 deals are just the basic surgery and I would not dream of getting it. You have to get the best available and you might as well get it on a good deal like groupon or living social etc.

    LaserVision use the same exact machine as Optlase and the Beacon etc. I now have better than 20/20 vision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,238 ✭✭✭looder


    ian_m wrote: »
    Yes. All well and good when things go right but when things go wrong you can be left with very few avenues to explore. Purchase of goods via vouchers is a grey area. Your contract is with living social rather than the third party which in this case is the laser eye surgery company.

    Maybe this company is fine, but based on my personal experience I wouldn't risk it as resolutions to problems via living social are a nightmare. I wouldn't want to see problems happening to anybody else. Its just not worth the saving.
    It might be worthwhile ringing the company direct about the living social offer and offering to pay the price listed on the voucher for the surgery.

    The company will get the full amount you pay then (as far as I know living social take about 30% of the price of the voucher) and you won't have to deal with Living Social.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    Yeh ... usually I just ring the company directly.

    Even when the deal is over I've had success.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    /\ great idea....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭martineatworld


    My insurance covers a certain amount back on laser eye surgery, would it work in conjunction with this offer...?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭whatlliwear


    I paid €2,200 for Wavefront Lasik on both eyes back in 2008 & have 20:20 vision.. I had it done in Lumivisionin Dublin. I would highly recommend them.
    A friend of mine had theirs done there too with perfect results also. pm me for details if you would like more information.

    The best advice I would give would be: call the place & ask all about their surgeon & do the research yourself.. I found out out all about the guy in Lumivision and found out what I needed to know before going in for the consultation.:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,282 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    :pac:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,794 ✭✭✭chillywilly


    looder wrote: »
    It might be worthwhile ringing the company direct about the living social offer and offering to pay the price listed on the voucher for the surgery.

    The company will get the full amount you pay then (as far as I know living social take about 30% of the price of the voucher) and you won't have to deal with Living Social.

    Good idea! If living social take 30% you could even chance your arm and offer the company €1,500, they would still be making more money than if you were to buy through living social:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,084 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    fl4pj4ck wrote: »
    my guess is you've never heard about a chargeback then?
    Can you get sightback as well?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,565 ✭✭✭✭Tallon


    Some of the comments and questions in this thread are stupid :rolleyes:

    I am strongly considering getting this done!

    Hmm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭eqwjewoiujqorj


    What about Light Adjustable Lens?
    Developed by a Nobel Prize-winning US scientist, the Light Adjustable Lens (LAL) can be fine-tuned to give a patient perfect vision after it has been inserted into the eye.

    It can be customised to an individual patient’s needs, whether they wear glasses for reading, distance or both, or whether they have cataracts or astigmatism.



    glWYG.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭mawk


    Beer Baron wrote: »

    Also I had a surgeon perform my operation. Some places use "technicians" who do not have a PHD or similar. :eek:

    as an engineer I see no problem with this. technicians are the guys who use the tools day in day out. they are always the most skilled with them.
    Skill with the equipment is more important than their title to me


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,196 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    The one problem I have with Laser Eye Surgery.. but since it's a relatively new technology, we won't fully know the effects of it until later life.

    As in people who got it done feel great about it now, but will your vision greatly decline / be affected 25 - 30 years down the line after all this.

    It might be the pessimist in me but it'd definitely be a concern for me.

    Don't wear glasses anyways (-.25/+.25) in my last eye test, so doesn't warrant glasses.

    Anyways, it does seem like a good deal... just the technology isn't quite tested enough for me yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,157 ✭✭✭✭Berty


    Basq wrote: »
    As in people who got it done feel great about it now, but will your vision greatly decline / be affected 25 - 30 years down the line after all this.

    It might be the pessimist in me but it'd definitely be a concern for me.

    .

    I knew about that but then again my choice was this:

    Continue to wear glasses until the day I die OR get this done and NOT have glasses until I'm 45-50 and then have glasses till the day I die.

    Easy choice really.

    Oh and I did actually get €1,000 with some Health Insurance company if I had insurance with them. Opened policy 30 days before surgery and cancelled policy the day the cheque cleared. Simples although same company changed their T&Cs soon after that. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭charlie_says


    If you are considering this surgery see an ophthalmologist (eye doctor) or at least your GP first for an opinion, to see if it's really suitable for you. Remember that it is cosmetic surgery.

    The laser eye folks undoubtedly in most circumstances will recommend it, as they are selling it.

    Personally I would only get this done by a consultant privately directly, not through a clinic. Often at the clinics the people performing the operation are not surgeons or even ophthalmologists themselves, they are just qualified to use the machine.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,781 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    While yes the above is true, and you should always get as much proper advice as you can, sometimes these places will recommend against laser eye surgery for some people. You might just not be suitable, often if the prescription is too big. For them if they are not confident they can't do it successfully, they run the risk of having to do several more follow up operations - at their own cost. So I don't think they are just trying to 'sell' everyone. I would hope there is a bit more integrity in this profession. Just don't go to some back alley doctor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,565 ✭✭✭✭Tallon


    If you are considering this surgery see an ophthalmologist (eye doctor) or at least your GP first for an opinion, to see if it's really suitable for you. Remember that it is cosmetic surgery.

    The laser eye folks undoubtedly in most circumstances will recommend it, as they are selling it.

    Personally I would only get this done by a consultant privately directly, not through a clinic. Often at the clinics the people performing the operation are not surgeons or even ophthalmologists themselves, they are just qualified to use the machine.

    Cosmetic - Yes
    Essential - Yes

    It is something that will greatly improve your life, people don't get it done because they 'don't like they're eyes' it's to better their life

    I've known places to decide not to do the Surgery on a person


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭g0g


    marketty wrote: »
    I would be interested in hearing from any one else who has been to this clinic

    I got mine done by this crowd (didn't check link but from posts I gather Laservision / John Fenton?) in 2007 and was very happy with it - PM me if you want any info. Granted I suffer from dry eyes in the mornings, but it's a small price to pay for not having to bring glasses with me everywhere. I play badminton and found it annoying the combination of fogged glasses, glasses get in the way when moving fast plus a few years earlier I saw a guy get his glasses smashed with a shuttle and his eye bled :eek: - these were my motivating factors! Yes before someone points it out I realise a shuttle directly in the eye could be equally bad!

    Take the point about the questionmark over long-term possible impact, but the concept has been around for a number of years so at least the medium term problems should be visible (pun intended) now. I think anyone getting this done does a fair bit of research into the pros/cons. As someone else pointed out, sure we'll all end up with glasses sooner or later! If having some guy peel bits of my eye away and zap the rest (yes you can smell it burning!) with a laser followed by an annoying month of taking countless eye-drops can buy me a few glasses-free years that's fine by me! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭sandin


    €4k is a crazy crazy price for a 30 minute routine job.

    €1899 is an ok price but still no bargain.

    I had lasek done in the UK in 1998 and the cost was £795 back then and its come down since.

    But if you are getting it done remember to claim back the tax as its tax deductable at 20%.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Tallon wrote: »
    Some of the comments and questions in this thread are stupid :rolleyes:

    I am strongly considering getting this done!

    Hmm


    So get it done and report back to us with a full report.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,630 ✭✭✭Oracle


    Tallon wrote: »
    Cosmetic - Yes
    Essential - Yes ....

    I hope you meant ...... :eek:
    Cosmetic - Yes
    Essential - No


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,565 ✭✭✭✭Tallon


    Oracle wrote: »
    Tallon wrote: »
    Cosmetic - Yes
    Essential - Yes ....

    I hope you meant ...... :eek:
    Cosmetic - Yes
    Essential - No
    No I didn't


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 943 ✭✭✭kenyard


    meh contact lenses do esentially the same job imo...
    my sister got it done at 2.5k an eye back around 15 years ago now and never looked back.
    (was pounds then also)

    i reckon it should only be around 1k an eye being honest if its done.. and thats at most for anyone.
    i was hopeful of both being done for around 1500 at this day in age
    new technologies being more expensive is a laugh also. should be easier for the operator to carry it out and better for patients, only reason it should be more expensive is there is a backlog of people so they can charge more, but considering its a 20-30 minute procedure its a good 8 people a day in a clinic and i cant see ireland having 40 people a day getting laser eye surgery to be fair...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭adamski8


    Oracle wrote: »
    I hope you meant ...... :eek:
    Cosmetic - Yes
    Essential - No

    I would disagree its cosmetic even if technically it is classed as it (which I don't know it is). so then I suppose it should be said that wearing glasses is cosmetic too????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,503 ✭✭✭adamski8


    kenyard wrote: »
    meh contact lenses do esentially the same job imo...
    my sister got it done at 2.5k an eye back around 15 years ago now and never looked back.
    (was pounds then also)

    i reckon it should only be around 1k an eye being honest if its done.. and thats at most for anyone.
    i was hopeful of both being done for around 1500 at this day in age
    new technologies being more expensive is a laugh also. should be easier for the operator to carry it out and better for patients, only reason it should be more expensive is there is a backlog of people so they can charge more, but considering its a 20-30 minute procedure its a good 8 people a day in a clinic and i cant see ireland having 40 people a day getting laser eye surgery to be fair...
    first not everyone can wear contacts.

    Secondly your second argument is terrible, I could say why are new phone costing ~€500? why are new cars costing ~€15000 surely they should be much cheaper blah blah blah.

    New technologies come along and if your competitor has it and you don't, its you thats going to go out of business and while machine cost would add to the cost, the staffing and other costs that were there before are still there. And if the procedures are roughly the same now then due to inflation then they are actually cheaper than before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭jameshayes


    its funny, I can only imagine the people here that are saying it is cosmetic and non essential as non glasses wearers, and if they wear glasses - only have light prescriptions.

    I was -8 in both eyes. Therefore, if I was to be in town and for some mad reason the glasses flew from my face and were un recoverable - I would be at a near complete loss. not being able to see the change in my hand let alone see the number of the bus I would find it very hard to negotiate my way home. For me, it was a necessity.


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