diplomatic immunity

Fe1exams

What happens if a diplomat smashes your car window and steals your wallet. He then brings a bag of drugs in a suit case to his private jet - can he be searched or arrested? i know its a bit random but what safeguards are in place as they are not allowed to be arrested by the gardai.

Its quite obvious they would never do this sort of thing but im curious as to how it works.
thanks
In london you oftten see diplomatic license plates - in Kerry id say .......not often.

seamus

The safeguard in place really is the relationship between the two countries. I couldn't tell you how far diplomatic immunity stretches, but where a diplomat was to be involved in petty crime it could quickly lead to political arguments between the two countries if the diplomat wasn't brought home and fired.
Countries also have the power to expel diplomats and send them home, but this is often reserved for times when political relations have failed.

The wiki article on it is interesting. Plenty of cases in there, including murders & rapes, where the only punishment was being brought home. The majority of incidents, unsurprisingly seem to be drink or drug driving.

Victor

You need to look up the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations.

Diplomats tend not to be involved in property theft.

Immunity can also be waived by the represented country.

MagicSean

As far as i know the only way to revoke diplomatic immunity is to shoot the diplomat through his identification. I saw it in a movie.

Dotsie~tmp

It's just been revoked.

<stretches neck>

BOOOM!!!

krd

MagicSean wrote: »

As far as i know the only way to revoke diplomatic immunity is to shoot the diplomat through his identification. I saw it in a movie.

No.

Movies are not a great source for reliable information. Just like the bit in movies where the cop dabs his finger in whatever drug he's found and tastes it and says it's cocaine or heroin. If you do that with a drug like MDMA, you will get incredibly high.


Countries, if they chose, can revoke diplomatic immunity. And there is nothing to stop a country from prosecuting a diplomat for a crime, it's that it just might cause serious reciprocal problems.

Diplomatic immunity is there to stop countries from harassing diplomats - or charging them with spying.

MagicSean

krd wrote: »

MagicSean wrote: »

As far as i know the only way to revoke diplomatic immunity is to shoot the diplomat through his identification. I saw it in a movie.

No.

Movies are not a great source for reliable information. Just like the bit in movies where the cop dabs his finger in whatever drug he's found and tastes it and says it's cocaine or heroin. If you do that with a drug like MDMA, you will get incredibly high.


Countries, if they chose, can revoke diplomatic immunity. And there is nothing to stop a country from prosecuting a diplomat for a crime, it's that it just might cause serious reciprocal problems.

Diplomatic immunity is there to stop countries from harassing diplomats - or charging them with spying.

Google the word "joke"

NoQuarter

krd wrote: »

No.

Movies are not a great source for reliable information.

Jesus.

krd

MagicSean wrote: »

Google the word "joke"

The time I was arrested on suspicion of having drugs. And the a horde of Garda were swarming over me. One eejit took a smaller container of silica crystals from the glove compartment, and broke it open, and then he was dabbing his finger in it, just like in the de movies. I could see what he was about to do and had to tell him to stop. He probably would have dabbed a little on his tongue - not that he'd know what he was looking for, but he'd seen it done in films.

In films they taste the drug. In reality, you don't even touch it. It could be an incredibly concentrated drug that even touching would be enough to get you very high. That stuff - PMMA - that the guys in Cork died from. It just takes a small dab on the tip of your finger to get very high from it. Those guys may have been used to versions of the drug cut to as little as 2% purity. It's likely the dose they took was 10 times or more, than what they were used to. Katy French and Gerry Ryan, both probably died from swallowing pure cocaine.

The pure material, getting a little on your hands may be all it would take to get very high.

Police do watch too many films. I was reading something recently on Chalk Angels - or Chalk Fairies. In the US, sometimes when a murder happens somewhere were murders don't happen very often (which is actually most of America). When the detectives turns up at the scene, the local police have sometimes drawn a chalk outline, or chalk angel around the body. This is something you see in films. It's an old thing. It's only meant to be done if the person is still alive and needs to be moved immediately, and there are no cameras to photograph them.

MagicSean

krd wrote: »

The time I was arrested on suspicion of having drugs. And the a horde of Garda were swarming over me. One eejit took a smaller container of silica crystals from the glove compartment, and broke it open, and then he was dabbing his finger in it, just like in the de movies. I could see what he was about to do and had to tell him to stop. He probably would have dabbed a little on his tongue - not that he'd know what he was looking for, but he'd seen it done in films.

In films they taste the drug. In reality, you don't even touch it. It could be an incredibly concentrated drug that even touching would be enough to get you very high. That stuff - PMMA - that the guys in Cork died from. It just takes a small dab on the tip of your finger to get very high from it. Those guys may have been used to versions of the drug cut to as little as 2% purity. It's likely the dose they took was 10 times or more, than what they were used to. Katy French and Gerry Ryan, both probably died from swallowing pure cocaine.

The pure material, getting a little on your hands may be all it would take to get very high.

Police do watch too many films. I was reading something recently on Chalk Angels - or Chalk Fairies. In the US, sometimes when a murder happens somewhere were murders don't happen very often (which is actually most of America). When the detectives turns up at the scene, the local police have sometimes drawn a chalk outline, or chalk angel around the body. This is something you see in films. It's an old thing. It's only meant to be done if the person is still alive and needs to be moved immediately, and there are no cameras to photograph them.

You didn't google the word did you?