nitrate extension?

blue5000

Has anyone heard anything about an extension to nitrogen or slurry spreading deadlines this autumn?

Nobbies

have,nt heard anything myself blue,but let me be the 1st on this too call on the powers that be too 4get about any ban on winter slurry spreadig this year,it has,nt rained in aweek or more where i am and most ground is either still not trafficable or only part so,and rain agan in the forcast.when will this winter ban isue be done away with as we have seen so much wet weather over recent summers ie,07,08,09,12, and often much better ground conditions in the winter months,

Farmer Pudsey

I doubt if there will be a chemical fertilizer extension tou have until the 15th Sept. I think it is the 15 October for slurry so the extension will be announced on the 9th of October to make the FJ on the 11th of October.

bob charles

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

I doubt if there will be a chemical fertilizer extension tou have until the 15th Sept. I think it is the 15 October for slurry so the extension will be announced on the 9th of October to make the FJ on the 11th of October.

surely announcing such a decision so late could have detrimental impacts for the environment as slurry maybe spread during periods set out in the GAP as not suitable. Contractors will have so much to do they will just have to crack on if there is nothing definite about an extension

Farmer Pudsey

bob charles wrote: »

surely announcing such a decision so late could have detrimental impacts for the environment as slurry maybe spread during periods set out in the GAP as not suitable. Contractors will have so much to do they will just have to crack on if there is nothing definite about an extension

History tells us that this is what will happen do you disagree

bob charles

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

History tells us that this is what will happen do you disagree

i know

5live

Be careful what you look for. If we continuously go looking for an extension to spreading dates, the powers that be will just turn around and say we simply dont have enough slurry capacity. In Germany it is 6 months and in a lot of other countries too. As Nobbies sais, practically every year we are looking for an extension so bigger storage requirements is just a matter of time.

Or we may renegotiate the spreading dates with a formula that includes ground temperatures, rainfall patterns and soil trafficability but it will be a very hard sell as it would be infinately more difficult to enforce than a straight by-date ban. Not to mention the fact that we have almost no knowledge of uptakes of nitrates and phosphates during the current closed periods or the effect on ground water supplies if a revised formula was negotiated.

Expect a 2 week extension if the weather doesnt hold but beware of the sting in the tail following on from that

joejobrien

If common sense prevailed, there is absolute no need of longer storage ,6,7.or 8 month closed peroid will not sort out the proplem It is the people in charge dont understand the weather. To those when they come out in the morn and their footpath or driveway is dry......... tis a grand morn,
notwithstanding it could have pissed most of the night and could take days to dry up your fields. Unfortunately teagasc have weakened our case, coming out last week saying publicy that the fine week has saved farmers from diaster. This appears, to the uneducated that all farmer are fine again... so why would they be calling for extention. Of coarse we know differently. Yes I agree we should be granted an extention in time so as not to be forced getting it all dumped out running a higher risk of pollution unintentional of course. Longer storage peroids would increase the proplems not solve them.There is of course much more educated people than us farmers:D:D:D

rancher

blue5000 wrote: »

Has anyone heard anything about an extension to nitrogen or slurry spreading deadlines this autumn?

An extension to the fertiliser supposed to be announced tomorrow, they don't announce the slurry one until the last minute because it is only a derogation and every farmer would leave it to the last day, making it harder to get it the next time.....s'pose they have a point

whelan1

hope you are right:D

Black Smoke

Does it matter at this stage, with the way the weather and ground is. Seems to me that the ground where I am at least is worse now than at any time during the year. Had a few good drying days last week, but since last Saturday, deluge after deluge.
Fkukcing sick of it at this stage:mad:

F.D

Does anyone think there may be more of an interest in slurry seperators in the future here to take the solids out of the slurry, leaving you with a more watery liquid to spread through out the year without spoiling the grass as much , then the solids could be spread after the grazing season with a dung spreader which would'nt be saturating the ground even further ?

rancher

F.D wrote: »

Does anyone think there may be more of an interest in slurry seperators in the future here to take the solids out of the slurry, leaving you with a more watery liquid to spread through out the year without spoiling the grass as much , then the solids could be spread after the grazing season with a dung spreader which would'nt be saturating the ground even further ?

T'would need a very sophisticated seperator to enable it to be classed as being allowed to be spread all year round.....practically drinkable

F.D

No i Mean that it would allow you to spread watery stuff on grass during the so called summer,where the problem more than likely is on the dry week you get there is too much grass cover to get out and spread it

rancher

F.D wrote: »

No i Mean that it would allow you to spread watery stuff on grass during the so called summer,where the problem more than likely is on the dry week you get there is too much grass cover to get out and spread it

New extension announced today to 16Nov with conditions, also shorter closed period, some areas will be allowed spread 1st jan,

red bull

slurry spreading extension till 16 Nov Im told.T&C will apply

red bull

more good news, I think we can spread again from 1/1/13

maxxuumman

Slurry spreading date extended to Nov 16 subject to farmer notifying the Dept. Start date in 2013 brought forward to 1 January except for Zone C which is 15 January.

maxxuumman

F.D wrote: »

No i Mean that it would allow you to spread watery stuff on grass during the so called summer,where the problem more than likely is on the dry week you get there is too much grass cover to get out and spread it

Same if not better results with trailing shoe or dribble bar. Alot of slurry tank manufactures coming out with " farmer" spec shoes that are nearly 1/2 the price of the contractor speced ones

JohnBoy

the Terms and Conditions are outlined here, more detail next week, but basically you can spread enough to get you through the closed period only and you have to notify the department in advance.

More info on the dept website next week.

http://www.agriculture.gov.ie/press/pressreleases/2012/october/title,67186,en.html


I have to say the department are pretty good at updating their website, to be fair like.

6480

JohnBoy wrote: »

the Terms and Conditions are outlined here, more detail next week, but basically you can spread enough to get you through the closed period only and you have to notify the department in advance.

More info on the dept website next week.

http://www.agriculture.gov.ie/press/pressreleases/2012/october/title,67186,en.html


I have to say the department are pretty good at updating their website, to be fair like.

its a pitty this could noy have took place a week ago and farmers could plan spreading better some men have just drowned dry fields to get it out and damaged others

raindodger

this farming by date is just a pure balls like 6480 said im just after drowning my two dry fields now i find out about the extension