Saorview.

Milly33

So how many people are going to go and get this then? Is there many..I get the kinda older crowd getting it to watch Fairly ****e and then but for all the rest of the programmes that RTE provide as tis mostly RTE are people going to pay for it.. I can honestly say that there isnt a hope in hell I will pay anymore for watching the crap they show...

Even looking at the new line up there must be a bunch of tools running it. The only one i get is TNG which I do really enjoy, between documentaries and the odd programmes they show, but the rest nahh rubbish... I would much prefer to pay the TV licence and then go through the net which I kinda dislike as if too many people think like this then RTE will be ne more but then they have done it to themselfs

pwurple

Well, we got a freesat box with digital tuner a few years ago, for the free english channels mainly. We don't watch a whole pile of telly, but the news is handy on RTE. Better to buy that one-off box than pay some kind of subscription every month for something we barely use.

Milly33

What is the free sat box then? I would be the same I try not to watch too much tele i am more for watching the movies. We tried the UPC last year for a year and found twas the same ding dong every day more repeats..

Cú Giobach

Milly33 wrote: »

So how many people are going to go and get this then?

Yes quite a lot will, because believe it or not, not everyone is you.

Large numbers of people no longer want to pay SKY or UPC to watch incessant adds and repeats.
The free option is Free Sat for the British and other Sat channels, combined with Saorview for the Irish ones.

If anyone wants to watch any Irish telly after October they will either have to pay a subscription to Sky, UPC.. etc, or get Saorview/Saorsat there is no other option.
I'll be getting Saorview once they change over my local transmitter in a few weeks, and the only trouble I will have to go to to make this major change, is press the "Find Digital Channels" button on my remote, I'm dreading the inconvenience.

corkcomp

Milly33 wrote: »

So how many people are going to go and get this then? Is there many..I get the kinda older crowd getting it to watch Fairly ****e and then but for all the rest of the programmes that RTE provide as tis mostly RTE are people going to pay for it.. I can honestly say that there isnt a hope in hell I will pay anymore for watching the crap they show...

Even looking at the new line up there must be a bunch of tools running it. The only one i get is TNG which I do really enjoy, between documentaries and the odd programmes they show, but the rest nahh rubbish... I would much prefer to pay the TV licence and then go through the net which I kinda dislike as if too many people think like this then RTE will be ne more but then they have done it to themselfs

you can buy a saorview box for under €50 and just plug it in... a once off cheap investment for a lot of people who don't wan't to pay monthly for sky / upc

MrFrisp

Yup,,as above.. ^^^^

A cheap box hooked up to a sat dish,and you can have 40 or so fairly good channels. You can get over 100,but most are ****e.

There are even a few movie channels there,including Film4 which is good.

There is a sticky on the Sat Forum which lists all the free channels you can get for a one of payment.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055520627

Well worth it,to be honest.





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evilivor

Milly33 wrote: »

So how many people are going to go and get this then? Is there many..I get the kinda older crowd getting it to watch Fairly ****e and then but for all the rest of the programmes that RTE provide as tis mostly RTE are people going to pay for it.. I can honestly say that there isnt a hope in hell I will pay anymore for watching the crap they show...

Even looking at the new line up there must be a bunch of tools running it. The only one i get is TNG which I do really enjoy, between documentaries and the odd programmes they show, but the rest nahh rubbish... I would much prefer to pay the TV licence and then go through the net which I kinda dislike as if too many people think like this then RTE will be ne more but then they have done it to themselfs

How old is your tv? If it not too old it may have a saorview compatible tuner already in it and you won't have to pay a cent.

Ludo

evilivor wrote: »

How old is your tv? If it not too old it may have a saorview compatible tuner already in it and you won't have to pay a cent.

You still need to hook it up to an aeriel in the roof don't you?

evilivor

Ludo wrote: »

You still need to hook it up to an aeriel in the roof don't you?

IF the OP is already getting TG4 then their existing aerial is perfectly fine.

In many cases, in the city at very least, rabbits ears which can be purchased for a couple of euro, will do perfectly well for receiving saorview.

Milly33

Cú Giobach wrote: »

Yes quite a lot will, because believe it or not, not everyone is you.

Are you sure. Cus like im pretty sure im fecking fantastic and if everyone was me it would be such a great place!! Thats a joke by the way stop being a fecking muppet...

Cú Giobach

Milly33 wrote: »

Are you sure. Cus like im pretty sure im fecking fantastic and if everyone was me it would be such a great place!! Thats a joke by the way stop being a fecking muppet...

A muppet would be someone who thinks their tv viewing preferences would have any bearing on tv viewing habits in general.

Here might give you an idea of the reality, or here if you don't trust Wiki.

In Ireland the national public service broadcaster remains the strongest player in the TV market while British channels and companies continue to play an important role. The public service channels, RTÉ1 and RTÉ2, had a combined market share of 33.1% in 2010 (almost 5% less than in 2006). The private channel, TV3 (launched in 1998) had a 12.4% market share, and is now the second most popular channel. The other two national Irish broadcasters are the public service Irish language channel TG4, and the entertainment channel 3e (owned by TV3). The five most popular UK channels are ranked in the following order: BBC1, UTV, S4C, BBC2, and Sky 1 (with a combined share of 15.1% in 2010).

Milly33

Do you have nothing better to be doing cu, never even spotted you on boards..Go back to bed and hopefully youll wake up a bit happier..

Ah out TV is pretty old id say we would have to get the box alrite for it..I have no problem paying for the soarview if there was anyhting decent on it and if you we didnt pay the TV licence also..Just seems a bit rich to be charging for it now...

Cú Giobach

Milly33 wrote: »

Do you have nothing better to be doing cu, never even spotted you on boards..Go back to bed and hopefully youll wake up a bit happier..

Ah out TV is pretty old id say we would have to get the box alrite for it..I have no problem paying for the soarview if there was anyhting decent on it and if you we didnt pay the TV licence also..Just seems a bit rich to be charging for it now...

You go on about RTE as if nobody watches it, yet it is by far the most watched station in the country.
You go on about RTE charging for Saorview, yet they don't.
Why don't you expect to be pulled up on either of these?

I showed you the ratings for Irish TV viewing preferences, any comment?

The only "charge" for Saorview is buying the equipment to watch it. Just like a tape recorder won't play CD's or a video recorder won't play DVD's an old telly won't pick up a digital signal so you need a new one or a signal decoder, quite simple really. I suppose you moaned about the introduction of digital technology with CD's or DVD's and called it "charging" due to having to buy new equipment, because that's exactly what you are doing here. Tech changes with time, that's why we don't have gramophone records or use horses and carriages anymore, this change to the way TV signals are broadcast is Europe wide and will eventually be world wide, if we in Ireland didn't change with the rest of the world then you really would have something to moan about.

Milly33

I see you did not take my advice and go for a nap then.That or your fecked and need more sleep

Cú Giobach

Milly33 wrote: »

I see you did not take my advice and go for a nap then.That or your fecked and need more sleep

Why because I disagree with what you wrote?
That is something (along with not everyone thinking the same as you) you will have to get used to in life.

Milly33

I am sure your a beautiful person deep down inside

Ludo

Have I stumbled in to the television or broadcasting forum by accident?
To make this thread vaguely Cork related...actually i cant...sod it.

MrFrisp

This Thread has gone Miles off topic..

Time for the lock and key... :cool:






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Cú Giobach

Milly33 wrote: »

I am sure your a beautiful person deep down inside

Look sorry if I came across a bit strong earlier, it was your "I get the kinda older crowd getting it to watch Fairly ****e" comment, it gave me an impression (probably wrong) that you were saying something like, "nobody watches RTE except older people hence RTE is pretty irrelevant to the population at large" that got my back up. It is as important that the lone elderly person watching a black and white portable out in the wild west is served by the nations broadcaster as much as the youngster watching (non) reality TV in Dublin.

The thing is that RTE (RTE1 in particular) really is by far the most watched station in the country, and Saorview is free hence the name, (not many ever considered it "charging" for radio because you had to buy a radio to listen to it).

Milly33

Was that what it was all about I ment Fair City hahaha... Otherwise known as fair ****e...

I would prefer to sit down and watch the older programmes on tv rather than any of these new ones but it just seems that, ok i do not mind paying the tv licence and having the 4 channels for free but when it comes to paying more again for it to watch programmes that are just repeats upon repeats I think is all a bit much...

Also another thing really ticks me off with them is that the cannot get their seasonal programmes right..Christmas movies at Halloween, Halloween movies at Christmas..Come tisnt that difficult...

Although I love to keep things non digital or lets say have books rather than the kindle, I just think they are going to kill the Irish Programming which is a shame for the good ones out there

Cú Giobach

Milly33 wrote: »

Was that what it was all about I ment Fair City hahaha... Otherwise known as fair ****e...

I would prefer to sit down and watch the older programmes on tv rather than any of these new ones but it just seems that, ok i do not mind paying the tv licence and having the 4 channels for free but when it comes to paying more again for it to watch programmes that are just repeats upon repeats I think is all a bit much...

Yes I know what Fair ****e, or as it's more usually called Fair(ly) Shity means.

Well, until the day comes when TV stations start giving out free tellys you are always going to have to buy the equipment to watch it, as people have had to do since day one.

Malari

Milly33 wrote: »

Although I love to keep things non digital or lets say have books rather than the kindle, I just think they are going to kill the Irish Programming which is a shame for the good ones out there

Who's going to kill Irish programming?

Ludo

Totally confused by your post there milly. You like old programs but don't want repeats? Don't see how saorview is gonna kill anything either.

martomcg

Noone has pointed out the fact that saorview is merely a scam to milk more money out of the public. You need a set top box per tv in order to watch telly after the switch over. Meaning any non-soarview tvs will become unusable.

I agree that the programs provided by RTE are absolute dirt and really have to question those statistics provided above. My guess is that they're taking the portion of the public that uses ariels only and not digital input (Sky, UPC, etc) which would prove that RTE's market share as a whole in ireland is considerably lower than they claim.

evilivor

martomcg wrote: »

My guess is that they're taking the portion of the public that uses ariels only and not digital input (Sky, UPC, etc) which would prove that RTE's market share as a whole in ireland is considerably lower than they claim.

Your guess is wrong. Audience reporting covers terrestrial, satellite and cable reception for both analogue and digital platforms as well as time-shifted viewing etc.

martomcg

evilivor wrote: »

Your guess is wrong. Audience reporting covers terrestrial, satellite and cable reception for both analogue and digital platforms as well as time-shifted viewing etc.

Willing to admit i'm wrong. Although I did read it wrong originally. Thought it was 33% for each RTE1 and 2 not both combined.

RTE2 with 8% is pathetically low.

Just means 67% of Irish viewers are watching anything except for RTE and are yet paying TV licences to cover Tubridy and Kennys wages.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0228/rte.html

Makes me sick to think they're earning so much (albiet these figures will likely have changed since 2006)

Cú Giobach

martomcg wrote: »

Noone has pointed out the fact that saorview is merely a scam to milk more money out of the public. You need a set top box per tv in order to watch telly after the switch over. Meaning any non-soarview tvs will become unusable.

Which is about as stupid as saying, the introduction of vinyl records then magnetic tape and then CD's were scams to milk money out of the public after people bought cylinder playing gramophones, turntables and tape decks.

A scam by who by the way? This isn't something RTE dreamt up, it is a positive technological change to the way TV is broadcast, soon it will be as easy to buy an "old" tv in a shop as it is to buy a Ford Model T in a car dealership.
Would you prefer if we stayed behind while the rest of Europe and then the World moves on?

martomcg

Cú Giobach wrote: »

Which is about as stupid as saying, the introduction of vinyl records then magnetic tape and then CD's were scams to milk money out of the public after people bought cylinder playing gramophones, turntables and tape decks.

A scam by who by the way? This isn't something RTE dreamt up, it is a positive technological change to the way TV is broadcast, soon it will be as easy to buy an "old" tv in a shop as it is to buy a Ford Model T in a car dealership.
Would you prefer if we stayed behind while the rest of Europe and then the World moves on?

Are you actually for real? The sentence directly underneath that one explains exactly how its trying to milk money. Why not introduce 1 box thats installed in the attic that will distribute the signal to all TV's?

Technicallly your supposed to own a TV licence for each TV you have in your house, the introduction of this means you cant get 'free' TV on them now unless you buy an extra saorview box.

evilivor

martomcg wrote: »

Technicallly your supposed to own a TV licence for each TV you have in your house, the introduction of this means you cant get 'free' TV on them now unless you buy an extra saorview box.

No you are not. One television licence will cover multiple pieces of equipment in a household.

martomcg

evilivor wrote: »

No you are not. One television licence will cover multiple pieces of equipment in a household.

This previously was the case but has indeed now been changed.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/consumer_affairs/media/tv_licences.html#l1f4da

If I have two television sets in my home do I need licences for them both?

If the equipment capable of receiving a television signal (for example a television set or a personal computer) is held in a household (an apartment, flat or a house), then one television licence will cover multiple pieces of equipment. In other words, if you have a television set in your living room and kitchen, one television licence covers both sets.

evilivor

martomcg wrote: »

This previously was the case but has indeed now been changed.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/consumer_affairs/media/tv_licences.html#l1f4da

It has always prevailed that a licence is required per address, rather than per person or per set.

blindsider

martomcg wrote: »

This previously was the case but has indeed now been changed.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/consumer_affairs/media/tv_licences.html#l1f4da

What has changed? Are you saying that 2 TV's in 1 household = 2 Licenses? If so, then you are completely and utterly incorrect.

It is clearly stated that multiple 'devices' require 1 license per household.

Milly33

I always thought twas one licence for the household also.

And ne dont be silly there is a big differance between watching repeats with obviously will happen with old movies and such, and lets say watching a whole weekend of repeats upon repeats... Can they not think of something better to show...

And by who I mean buy whoever came up with the bright idea of this saorview. it is just fine as is

evilivor

Milly33 wrote: »

And by who I mean buy whoever came up with the bright idea of this saorview. it is just fine as is

The old analogue broadcasting system is being switched off all-over the European Union as broadcasters switch to digital to free up spectrum for other communications.

Ireland has no choice - it's like moving from AM to FM, from black and white to colour, dial-ip to broadband, it's an improvement due to technology.

martomcg

blindsider wrote: »

What has changed? Are you saying that 2 TV's in 1 household = 2 Licenses? If so, then you are completely and utterly incorrect.

It is clearly stated that multiple 'devices' require 1 license per household.

I'm saying when the TV licence was first introduced it was per tv not per household.

I'm saying that it is now per household as per the article i attached to my post.

evilivor

martomcg wrote: »

I'm saying when the TV licence was first introduced it was per tv not per household.

I'm saying that it is now per household as per the article i attached to my post.

It has always been per household, not per device.

blindsider

martomcg wrote: »

I'm saying when the TV licence was first introduced it was per tv not per household.

I'm saying that it is now per household as per the article i attached to my post.

"Technicallly your supposed to own a TV licence for each TV you have in your house, the introduction of this means you cant get 'free' TV on them now unless you buy an extra saorview box."

You posted this yesterday at 09:09 - so now I'm confused.

Saorview info has been in the public domain for some time now. They haven't done a bad job in publicising it.

How many TV's do you have to cause you such inconvenience?

blindsider

martomcg wrote: »

I'm saying when the TV licence was first introduced it was per tv not per household.

I'm saying that it is now per household as per the article i attached to my post.

"Technicallly your (sic) supposed to own a TV licence for each TV you have in your house, the introduction of this means you cant get 'free' TV on them now unless you buy an extra saorview box."

You posted this yesterday at 09:09 - so now I'm confused.

Saorview info has been in the public domain for some time now. They haven't done a bad job in publicising it.

How many TV's do you have to cause you such inconvenience?

martomcg

blindsider wrote: »

Saorview info has been in the public domain for some time now. They haven't done a bad job in publicising it.

How many TV's do you have to cause you such inconvenience?

One TV per room, so 4 in bedrooms, 1 in the kitchen and 1 in the sitting room. Total of 6 TV's.

Sure as **** not buying 6 saorview boxes or upgrading 6 perfect TV's to Saorview enabled ones.

JonathonS

Milly33 wrote: »

What is the free sat box then?

There is plenty of info on the Terrestrial and Satellite forums.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=56

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=55

Your local electrical retailer will be able to explain all to you. If you are a Sky customer you buy the so-called combi box (COMBIned Saorview and satellite tuners in one box) and connect it to your Sky dish and an aerial. You will then get all the Irish channels and all the main UK channels (BBC, ITV, Ch4 and so on) with no bills every month.

There are a number of Irish companies selling the equipment online and their sites have a lot of useful info. Just Google "free satellite TV".

This is all legal, no dodgy boxes involved.

areyawell

Milly33 wrote: »

I always thought twas one licence for the household also.

And ne dont be silly there is a big differance between watching repeats with obviously will happen with old movies and such, and lets say watching a whole weekend of repeats upon repeats... Can they not think of something better to show...

And by who I mean buy whoever came up with the bright idea of this saorview. it is just fine as is

Are you serious? Analogue is blocky and a terrible picture. Saorview is digital with a brilliant picture especially on a HD television. I love having RTE 2 in full high definition for sports and other programs. And stop saying RTE, Net 2, Tv3 etc are crap, they are the best stations on TV, better than anything SKY have to offer.

areyawell

martomcg wrote: »

One TV per room, so 4 in bedrooms, 1 in the kitchen and 1 in the sitting room. Total of 6 TV's.

Sure as **** not buying 6 saorview boxes or upgrading 6 perfect TV's to Saorview enabled ones.

Better of buying the digital tvs, well for your main viewing area anyway. Cant tell you how good it is to have RTE2 in full HD for sporting events!

pwurple

martomcg wrote: »

One TV per room, so 4 in bedrooms, 1 in the kitchen and 1 in the sitting room. Total of 6 TV's.

Sure as **** not buying 6 saorview boxes or upgrading 6 perfect TV's to Saorview enabled ones.

6 TV's in one house. Holy moly that's a lot of telly watching, especially with only an aerial with 4 channels between them. Not much going on in Mullingar maybe.

Sell the TVs in the kitchen and bedrooms and you've more than enough for the saorview box.

Still wondering why this is in the Cork City forum....

martomcg

pwurple wrote: »

6 TV's in one house. Holy moly that's a lot of telly watching, especially with only an aerial with 4 channels between them. Not much going on in Mullingar maybe.

Sell the TVs in the kitchen and bedrooms and you've more than enough for the saorview box.

Still wondering why this is in the Cork City forum....

You can pick up 8 channels with the aerial! And there's someone in each of the rooms so doubt they'd be happy me selling their TV's! One in the sitting room and kitchen may be excessive but even at home thats the way it always has been. (Mullingar is home, actually living in Dublin)

Think i'll just get a box instead of paying a TV licence!

pwurple

I thought it was just RTE 1, 2, TV3 and TnaG.
What am I missing?

martomcg

pwurple wrote: »

I thought it was just RTE 1, 2, TV3 and TnaG.
What am I missing?

BBC1
BBC2
UTV
Channel 4

Ludo

martomcg wrote: »

I agree that the programs provided by RTE are absolute dirt ...SNIP

martomcg wrote: »

One TV per room, so 4 in bedrooms, 1 in the kitchen and 1 in the sitting room. Total of 6 TV's.

That is a LOT of tvs for watching absolute dirt :eek:

Milly33

really i had not heard of these also...Thought maybe it was the radio stations and that...mm interesting..

JonathonS

martomcg wrote: »

BBC1
BBC2
UTV
Channel 4

but NOT on an aerial in Cork.

Saorview has

RTE1
RTE1+1 (RTE1 delayed by an hour)
RTE2 HD (providing you have a HD TV, otherwise its just RTE2, no HD)
RTE News Now
TV3
TG4
3e
RTE junior

plus RTE Digital Aertel, and 10 radio stations.

You'll get all those on a Saorview box or TV. If you want the UK channels then you need to buy a Saorview box with a satellite tuner, or a Saorview TV with a satellite tuner.

pwurple

martomcg wrote: »

BBC1
BBC2
UTV
Channel 4

You already have a digitial signal coming in by the look of it. The old aerials didn't have those.

You're most of the way there.

areyawell

Too people dissing saorview, its fantastic. RTE 2 HD on a digital television for sports is excellent. Champions league, GAA, Rugby in HD is excellent especially on a HD TV. Analogue signal is terrible, its like getting rid of VHS and bringing in DVD's. Need to get with the times people!