Amber Beads

Barr

Hi All

I have a 2 year old that still drools a lot most of the day.

I have heard that amber beads might be a solution.

Has anyone experience of them?

Where would be the best place to purchase them at a reasonable price?


Thanks

NegativeCreep

You think a necklace will help a teething baby? ok...

I found this one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/SilverAmber-Genuine-Baltic-Teething-Necklace/dp/B007RJLFD8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1346701040&sr=8-1

How Strange

My son has worn one for a year and I swear by it. I got mine on http://www.teethingsos.com/
Which is an Irish company based in Mayo.

cbyrd

I use them with my 10 month old.. he's been wearing them about 3 or 4 months now and they're brilliant. I was using up to 15 bibs a day and changing his clothes too.. most nights he'd have nurofen, whereas now i rarely give him nurofen and only need a bib for feeding. Got mine on amazon

wmpdd3

Swear by them, baby used to get an upset stomach everytime she was teething because she was swallowing the acidic drool, 90% reduction after using the necklace.

But I put it around her ankle.

MrCreosote

Plenty of other placebos that are cheaper and less likely to choke or be inhaled.

Ms2011

Forgot about these, just ordered some. J's drooling is a nightmare plus I don't like having to give him Nurophen regularly, didn't give it to him going to bed last night & could hear him sobbing in his sleep :-(
I'll try anything that might work!!

xzanti

MrCreosote wrote: »

Plenty of other placebos that are cheaper and less likely to choke or be inhaled.

How do you suppose a placebo would work on a baby?

A lot of people swear by these.. I don't pretend to know how they work, but they are very popular with parents of teething babies.

vibe666

MrCreosote wrote: »

Plenty of other placebos that are cheaper and less likely to choke or be inhaled.

yes, because a teething baby would obviously know you've given it a placebo to subconsciously trick them into drooling and complaining less about sore teeth. :rolleyes:

the amber beads are embedded into the necklace itself and are small enough that in the unlikely event that they were swallowed they would just pass through them.

we have one for our 1 year old son and they are a godsend. it makes a huge difference to reduce the amount of acidic drooling and his discomfort when he's teething.

we got a small one when he was about 2 months old and started teething and it had a significant effect within a few hours of putting it on him and we really noticed the difference the odd time when we would take it off off when he's having a bath in the evening and then forget to put it on again as the effects will have totally worn off by the following morning and he would be back to drooling and majorly giving out about his sore teeth, but within a couple of hours of getting it back on his symptoms would ease off again.

he's a lot bigger now and he started noticing it around his neck, so we've doubled it up and moved it to his ankle and it seems to work just as well.

MrCreosote

xzanti wrote: »

, but they are very popular with parents of teething babies.

Exactly. That's who the placebo works on.

There's no evidence whatsoever they do anything for "teething". You could do any sort of wacky treatment for a few weeks for teething and it'll get better- on its own, as it would have done anyway.

However there are plenty of warnings from health bodies about the risks of swallowing and inhaling the beads, and the risks of leaving them on while infants are asleep.

leeomurchu

MrCreosote wrote: »

Exactly. That's who the placebo works on.

There's no evidence whatsoever they do anything for "teething". You could do any sort of wacky treatment for a few weeks for teething and it'll get better- on its own, as it would have done anyway.

However there are plenty of warnings from health bodies about the risks of swallowing and inhaling the beads, and the risks of leaving them on while infants are asleep.

Completely agree, would parents really want to tie a piece of chord around a childs neck while they're are sleeping. Just because they throw a few beads of amber on it doesn't make it less dangerous possibly more dangerous if anything.

Some folks will believe anything but there's no telling them otherwise so work away. Hope it works and doesn't have you rushing to the emergency room in the middle of the night.

pwurple

I have to say, I think they look really dangerous.

I can see kids accidentally getting them caught on something like a coat hook or the top corner of a cot while climbing and hanging themselves. Or the thing splitting and them inhaling the beads and choking. Doesn't bear thinking about.

If they give some relief where you can keep a close eye on them that would be ok. But I certainly wouldn't let them wear them out of my sight, like overnight.

Ms2011

The site I bought my necklace from specifically says not to put them on a sleep child, I think that's common sense.
I plan on putting mine on my sons ankle with a sock over it, I can't see the harm, I'm much more uncomfortable with medicating my son everyday for his pain.

leeomurchu

Ms2011 wrote: »

The site I bought my necklace from specifically says not to put them on a sleep child, I think that's common sense.
I plan on putting mine on my sons ankle with a sock over it, I can't see the harm, I'm much more uncomfortable with medicating my son everyday for his pain.

I've seen more than one child in their pyjamas with these beads around there neck. Common Sense doesn't always prevail unfortunately.

Would you take something yourself if you had a tooth ache, period pain, head ache or whatever else. Medicine is there to alleviate pain gone are the days of dosing up kids to the point of being incoherent.

There's no need to medicate a child everyday whilst teething at night on occasion as the tooth is breaking through I'd have no problem with.

vibe666

MrCreosote wrote: »

Exactly. That's who the placebo works on.

There's no evidence whatsoever they do anything for "teething". You could do any sort of wacky treatment for a few weeks for teething and it'll get better- on its own, as it would have done anyway.

yes of course that must be it. when the baby is teething and crying can't settle and is chewing everything and drooling and getting severe nappy rash due to swallowing lots of acidic drool and then all of that is dramatically reduced when i put the bracelet on him within a couple of hours, that's me actually blocking out all his symptoms in my head and just not noticing the suffering of my child any more, yes that makes perfect sense. :rolleyes:

and i suppose the times i forget to put it back on him after a bath and all his symptoms come back within a few hours, that must be me subconsciously remembering that i've forgotten to put it back on and then unblocking all the symptoms from my mind.

yes, the placebo effect, that must be it. :rolleyes:

caprilicious

Interesting info about them on www.teethingsos.com:

How it works

Succinite
Amber has been established as a teething remedy for generations and as a healing gem for eons. Succinite, the healing constituent of amber, is a substance found naturally in the body and elsewhere in nature. Robert Kock, a Nobel Prize winning Bacteriologist, studied succinite and concluded that it has a very positive influence on the body and that no harm comes from an over exposure. Amber is non-toxic.

Safety

The products are manufactured with the safety of babies in mind and so have the following features:

The beads have been mechanically rounded and polished so no sharp edges remain.
They are warm and comfortable against the skin and after a short time, babies generally forget they are wearing them.
They are threaded on cotton which will break if a force is applied.
There is a knot between each bead so in the event of breaking, only one bead will come free.
The beads are small enough so as to be quite harmless and are not toxic if swallowed. They will simply pass through. The round beads are smaller than the bean shaped beads. The approximate size of the beads is from 3mm to 5mm for the round beads and from 3mm-8mm for the bean shaped beads.
The necklaces are not too long that they would hang down and get caught in anything or be brought to the mouth. But they should be long enough that they can be tucked under clothing out of harms way.

I have the bracelet one though it's a bit big/loose so I intend to wait until my son is big enough for it to fit without coming off, then cover it with his sock when he does wear it.

If it relieves not just the pain from teething but the side effects of same (drooling causing stomach upset & teething rashes on face & bottom) then it makes sense to use it - carefully.

leeomurchu

caprilicious wrote: »

Interesting info about them on www.teethingsos.com:

How it works


Safety


I have the bracelet one though it's a bit big/loose so I intend to wait until my son is big enough for it to fit without coming off, then cover it with his sock when he does wear it.

If it relieves not just the pain from teething but the side effects of same (drooling causing stomach upset & teething rashes on face & bottom) then it makes sense to use it - carefully.

For every quote for there'll be a quote against so those quotes are irrelevant.

As I was saying before those that believe in them won't to told differently I just think there are enough hazards to be aware of without introducing more and I've managed to see 2 through teething unscathed and with these can't live without amber necklaces.

different strokes for different folks I guess I'd be interested to hear what your other half would say next time they've a tooth ache and you offer them an amber necklace

pwurple

caprilicious wrote: »

I have the bracelet one though it's a bit big/loose so I intend to wait until my son is big enough for it to fit without coming off, then cover it with his sock when he does wear it.

How do they use it? I thought they chewed on it, but how is he going to do that if it's under a sock on his foot?

leeomurchu

Just a quick balance on the quotes mentioned above it seems trading standards in the UK have their reservations on these as this store has issued a voluntary recall

http://www.amberpumpkin.com/amber-teething-necklace-recall.html

pwurple

vibe666 wrote: »

when the baby is teething and crying can't settle and is chewing everything and drooling and getting severe nappy rash due to swallowing lots of acidic drool and then all of that is dramatically reduced when i put the bracelet on him within a couple of hours

Just on this, my baby has never had a nappy rash from teething. Are you sure that's from the teeth? She got a fungal infection a while back, but it was long after she had all her teeth. The drooling babies do anyway as their saliva glands start to work, and the chewing is normal as well.

I've heard people attribute fevers, constipation, diarrohrea, excema and all sorts of random things to teething. The only thing mine ever got from teething was a swollen bump on the gums for a few days, and teeth!

cbyrd

leeomurchu wrote: »

For every quote for there'll be a quote against so those quotes are irrelevant.

As I was saying before those that believe in them won't to told differently I just think there are enough hazards to be aware of without introducing more and I've managed to see 2 through teething unscathed and with these can't live without amber necklaces.

different strokes for different folks I guess I'd be interested to hear what your other half would say next time they've a tooth ache and you offer them an amber necklace

I saw 3 through teething but my 4th was having a horrendous time with pain and the amount of drool was amazing.. i'd go through 15-20 bibs per day with 2-3 changes of clothes. i was very skeptical that it would work but I was desperate enough to give the necklace a go.. anything that could help. I'm not a huge believer in natural remedies but this does work..

i only use bibs now at feeding time and i rarely have to give him nurofen.. i had been giving him nurofen most nights for about 2 weeks when a tooth was due.

Amber worn close to the skin has an analgesic effect on babies and toddlers, i don't know how but it does work.. he's almost 11 months and has 5 teeth.. the first 2 were horrendous.. the last 3 were up before we realised.. his nappy rashes and chin rashes are gone. he's been wearing the necklace for about 5 months and has never pulled at it.. its under his clothes and its not big enough for it to flap round his face.. each to their own i guess but i always keep an open mind;)

vibe666

some kids get it easy, some kids don't.

when you have a screaming inconsolable child who can't sleep or eat and you have a product which, when used safely and responsibly can make the majority of that go away within a few hours, trust me you'll use it, just to stop your child suffering.

i see plenty of people who haven't used them saying it can't possibly work, but every single person who's come here who has actually used them has said that they DO work. is it parental delusion on the part of everyone who's tried them? we've tried plenty of different things for various different issues with the baby and plenty of stuff doesn't work as advertised, but this certainly isn't one of them.

all i'll say is that if you have a child who is teething badly, give it a go, i doubt very much that you will be disappointed. if you are worried about them potentially being of poor quality, have a look on amazon for the ones with lots of positive reviews and got for one of those above a cheap one from a market stall. either way, they are a few quid and could save you having to repeatedly dose your child with nurofen and calpol night and days until it's over just to give them a little relief.

i tried pulling on the the one we have when we got it and couldn't snap it using more force than a baby could possibly use. it also has each bead glued onto the necklace itself, so even if it breaks the beads aren't going anywhere. now that he's moving around and getting curious about things, it stays on his ankle, under a sock or inside his onesie out of reach, but he has always had it so he doesn't pay any attention to it even when he's being dressed.

pwurple

vibe666 wrote: »

it stays on his ankle, under a sock or inside his onesie out of reach, but he has always had it so he doesn't pay any attention to it even when he's being dressed.

How does it work if it's under his sock? Don't they have to chew on it? I don't understand.

vibe666

pwurple wrote: »

Just on this, my baby has never had a nappy rash from teething. Are you sure that's from the teeth? She got a fungal infection a while back, but it was long after she had all her teeth. The drooling babies do anyway as their saliva glands start to work, and the chewing is normal as well.

yes, very sure.

teething *can* cause very acidic drool, and lots of it, which can lead to rashes on the chin, neck & chest where the drool runs and also in the nappy as a lot of it is swallowed and passes right through them and giving them very acidic poo which in turn can cause a severe nappy rash.

we use absorbent leak proof bandana bibs for the times when he's still drooling and it keeps most of it off his clothing, and frequent nappy changes and sudocrem or bepanthen to minimise the nappy rash, but at least it's being kept to a minimum now with the necklace.

4 teeth down and another 2 on their way now.

kitten_k

pwurple wrote: »

vibe666 wrote: »

it stays on his ankle, under a sock or inside his onesie out of reach, but he has always had it so he doesn't pay any attention to it even when he's being dressed.

How does it work if it's under his sock? Don't they have to chew on it? I don't understand.

No they do not chew on them. As far as I know when the amber is against their skin it has a soothing effect.

Maybe someone who has used one can give you a better explanation or I am sure there are some amber bead websites that would

vibe666

pwurple wrote: »

How does it work if it's under his sock? Don't they have to chew on it? I don't understand.

no, they're not supposed to chew on them, it works by contact with their skin.

Amber contains a substance called succinic acid and related compounds called succinates. These occur naturally in the body as part of cellular respiration, and Baltic Amber has much higher levels of this chemical than other ambers. For this reason it is also called succinite and the Latin word for amber is succinum.
Succinic Acid occurs naturally in our bodies and is claimed to be have antioxidant properties that help fight free radicals. It can act as an analgesic (pain killer), anxiolytic (anxiety reliever), anti-biotic and an anti-inflammatory and is used in the production of antibiotics, vitamins and amino acids (vi). It is believed that small amounts of succinic acid may be absorbed from the amber into the bloodstream when it is worn in contact with skin.

apparently.

maybe that's how it works, maybe it's not, but i do know that it definitely DOES work, one way or another, simple as that.

my wife originally read about it online and i told her it was a load of balhoox, but she said it was only a few quid and it would be worth it just to find out one way or the other and got one anyway and much to my surprise the results speak for themselves.

cbyrd

vibe666 wrote: »

yes, very sure.

teething *can* cause very acidic drool, and lots of it, which can lead to rashes on the chin, neck & chest where the drool runs and also in the nappy as a lot of it is swallowed and passes right through them and giving them very acidic poo which in turn can cause a severe nappy rash.

we use absorbent leak proof bandana bibs for the times when he's still drooling and it keeps most of it off his clothing, and frequent nappy changes and sudocrem or bepanthen to minimise the nappy rash, but at least it's being kept to a minimum now with the necklace.

4 teeth down and another 2 on their way now.

Same as that.. the saliva becomes very acidic in order to break down the gums so the teeth can cut through.. it affects babies in different ways.. my 2nd girl got tonsillitis with every tooth.. 12 antibiotics in 15 months.. when she finished teething she never got tonsillitis again.. go figure.. :rolleyes:

pwurple

But, the amber is in the very center of these beads. They are made from something else entirely. Succinate is also just the latin for amber, so that's meaningless enough, we already know amber contains amber.

Being absorbed by the skin makes no sense either. Our skin is waterproof. The whole point of skin is for things not to be absorbed by it.

Maybe it works by distraction.

vibe666

pwurple wrote: »

But, the amber is in the very center of these beads. They are made from something else entirely. Succinate is also just the latin for amber, so that's meaningless enough, we already know amber contains amber.

Being absorbed by the skin makes no sense either. Our skin is waterproof. The whole point of skin is for things not to be absorbed by it.

Maybe it works by distraction.

maybe you should tell that to all the people using nicorette patches. :rolleyes:

oh yes, and you might want to let all the pharmaceutical companies who are now making l lot of medicines in patch form to stop wasting their time as well as they won't work on our 'waterproof' skin. just think of the millions you could save them.

cbyrd

pwurple wrote: »

But, the amber is in the very center of these beads. They are made from something else entirely. Succinate is also just the latin for amber, so that's meaningless enough, we already know amber contains amber.

Being absorbed by the skin makes no sense either. Our skin is waterproof. The whole point of skin is for things not to be absorbed by it.

Maybe it works by distraction.

Skin is waterproof but it absorbs everything that comes in contact with it.. the liver has to process everything like make-up lotions perfumes and suncreams.. a good test of how well your digestive system is working is to rub garlic on your foot at night and you should be able to smell it on your breath the next morning.. it's one of the reasons you should wear gloves when using detergent and bleach

mikom

pwurple wrote: »

Being absorbed by the skin makes no sense either. Our skin is waterproof. The whole point of skin is for things not to be absorbed by it.

*Goes outside to spray weedkiller in the nip*

leeomurchu

mikom wrote: »

*Goes outside to spray weedkiller in the nip*

I don't think you put weed killer on that kinda veg

Tommytwotimes

Get them, you won't regret it, my 4 month old wears them and they are great, our daughter used to drool an awful lot when she was teething, she is 3 now, and we were recommended to get these by a friend, we have not regretted it at all.

pwurple

Maybe so, but if you wanted some chemical absorbed by a childs ankle skin, from the center of a glass bead, to help do something to their teeth.... wouldn't you just put a dose of it in their food?

How Strange

pwurple I understand your scepticism but it's hard to explain the transformation that takes place in a baby's/toddler's temperament when they start wearing these necklaces.

My 7 month old son went from perpetually grumpy and whingy to generally content within days. He started sleeping better at night, he stopped waking up screaming. All of this happened before the teeth cut. He got 4 top teeth all at once and he was mildly grumpy for one day. Similarly he cut 2 sets of molars without us even noticing.

My husband and I are sceptical people by nature but we've seen how our son changed when he started wearing the necklace. He was 7 months do he was oblivious to it.

As someone else said here (vibe666 maybe) all the posters here who's kids wear them say they work. The only posters who say its rubbish are those who've never tried them.

pwurple

I don't doubt people when they say they work. I'm trying to figure out how... so that maybe it could be achieved a better way. (Perhaps without the choking hazard.)

If it's the substance itself, that could be tested. If it is distraction, maybe any kind of band would work. Again that could be tested.

Just interested.

vibe666

pwurple wrote: »

I don't doubt people when they say they work. I'm trying to figure out how... so that maybe it could be achieved a better way. (Perhaps without the choking hazard.)

If it's the substance itself, that could be tested. If it is distraction, maybe any kind of band would work. Again that could be tested.

Just interested.

i'm sure your enthusiasm is appreciated, but since you don't appear to know basic facts about how absorption works in human skin, i'm not entirely convinced that you're going to be the right person to spearhead the campaign for a better solution to teething relief than amber necklaces.

pwurple

At least I'm not rude!

vibe666

pwurple wrote: »

At least I'm not rude!

me neither, just a conduit for honesty via the artistic medium of sarcasm.

Squiggler

pwurple wrote: »

Maybe so, but if you wanted some chemical absorbed by a childs ankle skin, from the center of a glass bead, to help do something to their teeth.... wouldn't you just put a dose of it in their food?

Where are you getting the idea that the amber is encased in glass? I understood that these necklaces are made from amber beads, i.e. beads made from pure amber, which is fossilized tree resin (not stone). It has been used as a medicinal treatment from ancient Greek times.

Anything applied to the skin can have an effect on the body's chemistry. People with nickel intolerance who can't wear gold (of whom I'm one) will tell you this. Likewise people with chemical allergies who can't wear clothes washed in certain detergents, or fabric softeners etc.

How Strange

Pwurple they aren't a distraction because as babies they are totally unaware of them. With regards to a choking hazard I've pulled and tugged at my sons and it is designed to be as safe as possible. The risk of choking is no greater than with lots of hazards that babies and toddlers encounter every day. The beads are individually sown so it's not like a normal necklace where if it breaks the beads scatter all over the place.

Perhaps there are some amber necklaces on the market which are made in such a way that the beads can be swallowed individually but the necklace I got from teethingsos is quite secure.

On the matter of how it works; I don't exactly know but it does. Trying is believing as they say!

vibe666

Squiggler wrote: »

Where are you getting the idea that the amber is encased in glass? I understood that these necklaces are made from amber beads, i.e. beads made from pure amber, which is fossilized tree resin (not stone). It has been used as a medicinal treatment from ancient Greek times.

i was also wondering where this idea came from that they were glass beads with amber in them.

yes, as you've said and despite what pwurple seems to think, they are made of actual amber, therefore the amber itself is in direct contact with your waterproof (but still permeable) skin, which (according to the people who sell them) allows your skin to absorb microscopic amounts of whatever is in the amber.

Ms2011

leeomurchu wrote: »

Ms2011 wrote: »

The site I bought my necklace from specifically says not to put them on a sleep child, I think that's common sense.
I plan on putting mine on my sons ankle with a sock over it, I can't see the harm, I'm much more uncomfortable with medicating my son everyday for his pain.

I've seen more than one child in their pyjamas with these beads around there neck. Common Sense doesn't always prevail unfortunately.

Would you take something yourself if you had a tooth ache, period pain, head ache or whatever else. Medicine is there to alleviate pain gone are the days of dosing up kids to the point of being incoherent.

There's no need to medicate a child everyday whilst teething at night on occasion as the tooth is breaking through I'd have no problem with.

I was referring to my common sense, as in I wouldn't put them on a sleeping child.
Most products for children can be hazardous if used incorrectly.

If I had a pain & had to take painkillers everyday for a week or two I would be looking for alternatives for myself as well.

My son has needed Nurophen for the past week going to bed, I tried not giving it to him last night as I thought a week was too long for him to be getting it but he woke at 12am in pain & when I did get him back to sleep he was sobbing in his sleep.
If there is any chance these beads will work I'll give them a go.

pwurple

I work in pharma. Patches deliver feck all product, they work almost exclusively by distraction. Any active product delivery is negligible. I know placebo is considered a bad word, but placebo's work very well most of the time. I'd be all for using a good placebo method before medicating if possible.

Nickel and other allergies are your skin itself reacting, so of course skin contact will make a difference there.

I didn't realise it wasn't in the center of the bead. The ones I looked up I thought were where the amber was in the middle of another substance.

If it does work (which it sounds like it does), then there are loads of other effective delivery methods that don't involve a choking or strangulation hazard. You can ingest take the product orally (powder, liquid, food) inject it, rub it directly on the site, put it in a suppository, use inhalation like an asthma inhalor... many many other options. Add a distraction method, like a piece of thread around the ankle, and your choking hazard is gone but you still get your result.

So, is it a painkiller, an anti-inflamatory, a calming agent I wonder? I'd guess an anti-inflamatory? So the less risky option is probably baby neurofen and a piece of thread.

I'm not sure I get the reasoning where people don't want to medicate, so you medicate with something completely non-regulated instead. But I'll admit, I'm biased.

Squiggler

pwurple wrote: »

I work in pharma. Patches deliver feck all product, they work almost exclusively by distraction.

Really, so morphine patches, for example, are a waste of time and money? And my cousin didn't almost die of a morphine overdose because one of the nurses failed to remove the old patch before adding a new one (which nobody discovered until later)? Interesting.

What would you consider more "tried and tested"? Something that has been used for thousands of years with no recorded negative side effects or something that's been used for decades, with the list of negative side effects increasing annually as more is understood?

pwurple

Hi Squiq. I was talking to vibe about nicotine patches.

I don't think I said "tried and tested"... Not addressed to me maybe?


btw, what I'm trying to figure out, is a way to remove the one huge downside to these necklaces. Choking. If amber works, brill, let's get it delivered a safe way, and remove the hazard. Easy peasy!

mikom

pwurple wrote: »

I work in pharma. Patches deliver feck all product, they work almost exclusively by distraction.

Yep, I've heard the contraceptive patch works by distracting the sperm away from the egg...

http://www.rollercoaster.ie/Article/tabid/156/ArticleName/Contraceptive_Patch/Default.aspx

What part of pharma do you work in?

pwurple

mikom wrote: »

Yep, I've heard the contraceptive patch works by distracting the sperm away from the egg...

http://www.rollercoaster.ie/Article/tabid/156/ArticleName/Contraceptive_Patch/Default.aspx

Jeez louise.:rolleyes: What is with the attack dogs in here. Is "feck all" really that hard to fathom. I'll define it. "Feck All" = a very low dose.

The contratraceptive patch is a teeny tiny itty bitty dose. It even says it in your link. Low Dose. ie. - Feck All product.

It's an inefficent method of getting anything into someone. Clarified?

Little My

I have an amber teething necklace from teethingsos and it made bugger all difference.

Friends of mine who have tried them said they made bugger all difference.

Friends of mine who are into natural remedies and homeopathy swear by them.

I also think teetha granules makes bugger all difference, he likes the taste so it quietens him for a while but thats about it.

On the teething drool thing, try a plastic backed bib on top of the vest but under the teeshirt. It means their chest doesn't get damp but won't be pulled off by an enthusiastic baby.

dublinlady

pwurple wrote: »

mikom wrote: »

Yep, I've heard the contraceptive patch works by distracting the sperm away from the egg...

http://www.rollercoaster.ie/Article/tabid/156/ArticleName/Contraceptive_Patch/Default.aspx

Jeez louise.:rolleyes: What is with the attack dogs in here. Is "feck all" really that hard to fathom. I'll define it. "Feck All" = a very low dose.

The contratraceptive patch is a teeny tiny itty bitty dose. It even says it in your link. Low Dose. ie. - Feck All product.

It's an inefficent method of getting anything into someone. Clarified?

This point is the stupidest thing I've ever read. I work in the pharmaceutical industry and I swear I've never read anything so ridiculous . Believe me ( not that u have to!) but patches - including nicotine patches have the same therapeutic effect as other dosage forms. Equivalent. Gods honest truth.


I understand ppl not beleiving in the beads - its similar to acupuncture - etc. no evidence base.
Worked for me tho. And as a 'pharma' person I was beyond sceptical...but desperate!

Sorry I dont mean to sound harsh or rude but I can't witness an untruth - when ppl may believe it. This is exactly why medical advise shouldn't be saught online!

mikom

pwurple wrote: »

Jeez louise.:rolleyes: What is with the attack dogs in here. Is "feck all" really that hard to fathom. I'll define it. "Feck All" = a very low dose.

The contratraceptive patch is a teeny tiny itty bitty dose. It even says it in your link. Low Dose. ie. - Feck All product.

It's an inefficent method of getting anything into someone. Clarified?

So this is not distraction?

You do realise what can happen if a lady is given a high dose of oestrogen?

What part of pharma do you work in again?
Please don't say tillage...