MyTV offers to sell and install STB, aerials and sat dish

Geuze

I got a flyer in the door.

A company called MyTV are offering to sell and/or install TV equipment.

Initial payment is made via An Post.

Three options:

(1) Triax STB, said to be PVR ready = 80 + 5 P&P

(2) Triax TR112 STB plus aerial, brackets, cables plus installation = 200


(3) Triax TSC 114 box (180 euro) plus aerial plus sat dish plus installation = 350

I'm thinking about option 3, but I know nothing about this supplier.

Any comments??

Gerry Wicklow

Discussed here already

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=80361049

Rippy

You would be far better off finding a local, experienced installer with a decent reputation to do the work for around the same money.

Extinction

MYTV have only one approved combi box for sale even though there are currently 2 approved boxes. A local competent installer will have access to both and not be limited by a trade agreement with any supplier. A competent installer can also offer you better solutions than a combi box in some circumstances.

St Senan

These sales companies who some how got Approved ???? by RTE to be registered retailers sell sky digital as well, now these sales companies use sub contractors to install sky for them on a commission work. And i am sure the same sky card activators are putting up Aerials on upside down zone2 wall brackets. I wonder will these sub contractors call back and retune these combi boxes for Mrs Murphy or Mrs Nolan when the satellite channels start to move around.

STB

Navarre wrote: »

I wonder will these sub contractors call back and retune these combi boxes for Mrs Murphy or Mrs Nolan when the satellite channels start to move around.

HD Combo boxes regardless of whether they are Saorview approved or not may require tuning from time to time. The main channels that people watch on satellite are RARELY moved around. I am sick to death of this installer rampage against HD Combo boxes, both approved and unapproved.

Freesat products are not licensed for sale in this country. Regardless of that they DO NOT pick up Saorview.

Navarre, I wonder will the installers down this way be going back to help their customers when Mt Leinster moves it Saorview Mux Channel from Channel 45 to Ch 23 in October ? Furthermore I do hope that installers haven't been installing the wrong group aerials.

In all cases these days regardless of whether its a Combo Box or just a plain old Saorview only box, they come with an instrcution booklet/

Extinction

The installer rampage you refer to would relate to unregistered installers who promote unapproved receivers as Saorview even though they don't have the full Saorview service. Every single registered installer has at some point on boards said that they do use both unapproved and approved receivers, it depends entirely on the customers needs.

There is a huge difference between installers who inform customers what these differences are and installers who sell mpeg4 boxes as Saorview boxes and do not mention anything about mheg5. I'm sure any registered installer will also help any customer who experiences difficulties when frequencies change on Saorview. The difference between saorview and free to air is that there will not be many occasions that saorview channels will change frequencies while there are regular changes of channel frequencies on free to air satellite. The other main differenece is that most people will be able to rescan for saorview themselves as when they do the channels will line up in order, it is quite a different matter with free to air satellite. If there is a Saorview approved TV in a customers house a registered installer will offer a freesat box to avoid disruption to a customers service. A HD freesat also cheaper than an approved combi receiver and is a superior product.

There then is also the rampage as you call it against the retailers who sell receivers as Saorview compatable or freesat compatable even though they are well aware that these statements are mis leading. To be fair I would not call it a rampage, I would call it being truthfully informative and not misleading.

St Senan

STB my previous post is about a Sales company who for some bizarre reason got approval as an on-line retailer??? and use cheap sub contractors to install all sorts of aerials and receivers for people.
I see another Registered Saorview retailer??? is advertising on FaceBook for people to go out selling Saorview.
I have no rampage against Combos I will sell both Approved and Unapproved to the public if needed. Along with a instruction manual
But I do explain to people the difference between them and let the customer make the decision. I dont sell or supply FTA receivers for UK channels since 2009.

You say your sick to death of Installers rampaging on about combos/Freesat. How many active threads are in terrestrial about ARIVAS or Unapproved combos.

Yes Freesat products are not licensed for sale in Ireland but its not illegal to sell or install them either and for ease of use they are the perfect solution for free UK channels. Lots of Arivas and Xoros have been sold and installed and they are not approved product's for Saorview or Freesat they are generic receivers. Same difference.

Mt leinster's channel move will effect more than just Wexford so there will be a lot of installers having unwanted grief on OCT24th and guess what RTE/Saorview are not going to lose sleep because of it.

I have RTE's number at hand and I am giving it to people who need their TV or stb retuned as I will be out of the country at a wedding on 23rd. My wife says perfect timing let RTE get the grief for a change they are the ones who are causing it in the first place.

I have said before that some guys down this way are telling people they need new aerials and are removing perfectly good Group A, Grids and Yagis and replacing them with WB aerials just to make a quick killing €€€.
Rip offs.

Cesium Clock

STB wrote: »

In all cases these days regardless of whether its a Combo Box or just a plain old Saorview only box, they come with an instrcution booklet/

that people have zero interest in reading,
the only rampage on here is the hijacking of threads to promote arivas,

STB

Cesium Clock wrote: »

that people have zero interest in reading,
the only rampage on here is the hijacking of threads to promote arivas,

WTF does that mean ?

Cesium Clock

STB wrote: »

WTF does that mean ?

The majority of people do not read instruction manuals,

STB

Extinction wrote: »

The installer rampage you refer to would relate to unregistered installers who promote unapproved receivers as Saorview even though they don't have the full Saorview service. Every single registered installer has at some point on boards said that they do use both unapproved and approved receivers, it depends entirely on the customers needs.

There is a huge difference between installers who inform customers what these differences are and installers who sell mpeg4 boxes as Saorview boxes and do not mention anything about mheg5. I'm sure any registered installer will also help any customer who experiences difficulties when frequencies change on Saorview. The difference between saorview and free to air is that there will not be many occasions that saorview channels will change frequencies while there are regular changes of channel frequencies on free to air satellite. The other main differenece is that most people will be able to rescan for saorview themselves as when they do the channels will line up in order, it is quite a different matter with free to air satellite. If there is a Saorview approved TV in a customers house a registered installer will offer a freesat box to avoid disruption to a customers service. A HD freesat also cheaper than an approved combi receiver and is a superior product.

There then is also the rampage as you call it against the retailers who sell receivers as Saorview compatable or freesat compatable even though they are well aware that these statements are mis leading. To be fair I would not call it a rampage, I would call it being truthfully informative and not misleading.

No the rampage is being cause by the same old installers on these tech fora again and again. At this stage its gone beyond an agenda.

The aerial and satellite installation is an unregulated trade. We all know that including RTENL. I myself do have respect for the legitimate longstanding guys paying tax and pli. Some people on these tech threads are doing their colleagues no favours by attempting to try and solve their grievance over ex-electricians/builders/carpenters taking up these jobs as a cottage industry, by going after the HD boxes themselves.

Over the past few weeks there have been numerous postings telling half truths, untruths and in general putting down both approved and unapproved HD Combo boxes by installers.

Like it or not Saorview have approved combo boxes as a solution. I will make no apology for correcting inaccuracies when it is clear what the agenda is, to associate certain boxes with some cowboy trade.

I (along with other contributors on this part of boards) have posted about lots of different types of solutions in the past including Combo boxes (infact there have been several stickied threads listing the various models).

Of course I hate to repeat myself, but I do not sell or install anything, unlike the commercial interests that installers have here.

Navarre seems to the only one among you guys who it appears can have a level headed discussion.

Most of the threads lately involving other certain installers posting here have resulted in the threads being locked. Certainly it didn't escape my attention that the official representative stickied thread ended up with the Saorview representative fecking off and the thread deleted. No doubt that it was due to these incessant attacks and hijacking of that Ask Saorview thread by the same old faces and their agendas.

There is a installers forum for a reason. This is not your own personal grievance forum. Time to change the record and stop the backslapping.

STB

Cesium Clock wrote: »

The majority of people do not read instruction manuals,

NO. I asked YOU a question.

What did you mean by "the only rampage on here is the hijacking of threads to promote arivas" ?

Extinction

If you can point out any half truths i have posted then by all means do. If you want to point out anywhere that I have said that there is anything wrong with approved combis do. Can you find anywhere that I have had any commercial interaction with anyone on boards? Can you point out anywhere that the advice I offered was inaccurate?
Have a look at my reply to the op in this thread and tell me what part of my post is hijacking the thread?
Freesat boxes were not even mentioned in the thread until your post, op is looking for a combi, i suggested he/she go to a local installer, if you must know why I said that its because an installer will probably also offer a walker approved combi which is cheaper and in my opinion a better receiver than the triax combi.

Cesium Clock

STB wrote: »

No the rampage is being cause by the same old installers on these tech fora again and again. At this stage its gone beyond an agenda.

The aerial and satellite installation is an unregulated trade. We all know that including RTENL. I myself do have respect for the legitimate longstanding guys paying tax and pli. Some people on these tech threads are doing their colleagues no favours by attempting to try and solve their grievance over ex-electricians/builders/carpenters taking up these jobs as a cottage industry, by going after the HD boxes themselves.

Over the past few weeks there have been numerous postings telling half truths, untruths and in general putting down both approved and unapproved HD Combo boxes by installers.

Like it or not Saorview have approved combo boxes as a solution. I will make no apology for correcting inaccuracies when it is clear what the agenda is, to associate certain boxes with some cowboy trade.

I (along with other contributors on this part of boards) have posted about lots of different types of solutions in the past including Combo boxes (infact there have been several stickied threads listing the various models).

Of course I hate to repeat myself, but I do not sell or install anything, unlike the commercial interests that installers have here.

Navarre seems to the only one among you guys who it appears can have a level headed discussion.

Most of the threads lately involving other certain installers posting here have resulted in the threads being locked. Certainly it didn't escape my attention that the reason the official representative from Saorview fecked off, the thread deleted was due to these incessant attacks and hijacking of that Ask Saorview thread by the same old faces and their agendas.

There is a installers forum for a reason. This is not your own personal grievance forum. Time to change the record and stop the backslapping.

Well done again STB you have again twisted a thread about MyTv into your own 'chip on the shoulder i know better than you dumb installers' to your own agenda,

My self , Navarre , and extinction have approx 80 to 90 years experience between us in the installation business , we have been around pre digital pre saorview , pre combo box,

What you have to realise is, combo boxes are a fad, an infill for the change over, all tv's will be eventually replaced with saorview compatible or even saorview approved models,

And the best thing to go with a saorview tv is an official Freesat receiver,

I have seen VHF change to UHf, sparklies replaced by the digital cliff,

12 channels on an encryption free push button box to NDS,

If you as you say have 20+ years in broadcasting you will know this stuff,
And your high horse agenda against installers , who deal with the actual real people every day , is becoming very apparent ,

marclt

C'mon lads!

I won't tolerate personal attacks on this forum, neither will the other mods.

I will close this thread pending cleaning it up for further mature discussion!

STB

Navarre wrote: »

Yes Freesat products are not licensed for sale in Ireland but its not illegal to sell or install them either and for ease of use they are the perfect solution for free UK channels.

You may (or may not) be interested to know that in order sell or install Freesat branded equipment, you must have a service level agreement in place with Freesat Distribution.

"You will not be able to buy or sell FREESAT products without this signed agreement in place".

If you "intend to offer an installation service by your own staff or by a sub-contractor, you must also comply with the Installer section" of the service level agreement, sign it and return it.

I assume that all installers have similar agreements with Freesat PLC in place or are an approved agent to sell, install its Freesat product, use its logo etc.

watty

"You will not be able to buy or sell FREESAT products without this signed agreement in place".

Not legally enforceable if someone buys a Freesat box in the UK and decides to resell it and install it here.

Freesat Distributors can legally refuse to ship to Ireland. They can't legally refuse to sell to someone in the UK, especially anyone retailing.

Once a box is sold the Freesat organisation has no legal control over its deployment.

Long, long ago there were LEGAL draconian powers on reselling Radios and TVs in the UK, which forced the UK Co-op to subcontract manufacture of its own brands of TV and Radio.

More recently there was an official Cartel on book pricing. That has gone on physical books though there has been an attempt to re-introduce it on eBooks (shame on you Apple).

Tony

watty wrote: »

Freesat Distributors can legally refuse to ship to Ireland.

On what basis Watty, I thought EU rules would preclude such restraint of trade?

In the real world though some have refused in the past but Turbosat for example will sell you any amount of Freesat product.

Beruthiel

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