Some asshole beeping, did I do something wrong?

arleitiss

Hey, so I was at a junction one day, it was raining (random fact) and my lane was going straight well actually it didn't have arrows at all, but also didn't have a sign of no turn, I know it's allowed to turn there, it's type of turn which have to catch time to get, I mean doesn't have filter arrow, when it's green to us it's green to opposite lane as well. So I had indicators turned to left, there was taxi behind me, I was waiting for cars to pass and safely get through this asshole started beeping me constantly, I got so frustrated, stressed and pissed off I nearly opened window and showed him middle finger (but I holded off), really if I had some kind of baseball bat I couldn't resist it, just got so pissed off he beeped around 30 times. Indicators were working so he obviously saw I am turning, when I looked in mirror he pointed at green traffic light, yet there was cars standing to turn left on opposite lane and behind them I saw 2 cars coming with no intension to stop or turn so I waited then light switched red so I reversed a bit to get off yellow box, that guy started beeping me while at red traffic light, I know he's a taxi he would probably rush through red. When it turned green again I waited a bit as there was more cars driving opposite. So what was I supposed to cut through them or what?
Here is diagram of situation:

Wise Old Elf

I'm presuming you mean turn right, left turn from there, best of luck!!:P

When I was learning to drive and doing test, the instruction in this situation was that the first car in the queue had to "take control of the junction", i.e. enter the junction, past the white line, and turn right when it was clear to do so, even if the traffic light had turned red before you turned (this happened in my test and I passed). It's hard to know why the taxi was beeping, some people are just nasty to L drivers.

Open to correction on above as it's a while since I did my test.

arleitiss

well yeah I meant to turn right not left

Spook_ie

Assuming it's a yellow box junction, you "should" have been much further forward than shown on your diagram. I assume that the car traveling in the opposite direction was turning right also, in which case you should have been far enough forward for you both to exercise an offside to offside (back to back ) turn.

Turning right at a crossroads

When turning right at a crossroads and a car coming from the opposite direction is also turning right, if possible you should both try to turn back to back. This allows you and the other driver to see oncoming traffic and allows the traffic to see you.

http://www.rulesoftheroad.ie/rules-for-driving/junctions-roundabouts/junctions.html

The fact of it being a yellow box junction would not have prevented this as the 2nd car traveling in the opposite direction shouldn't enter the junction as his way is blocked by the 1st car, similarly the taxi shouldn't block the path of the other car.

Of course all of this is reliant on two things

a The junction is capable of supporting the manouvre
b The drivers involved know what they are doing and what the other drivers are doing

teR_

In-future just give them a beep back and forget about them.

Use more caution and go slowly when moving off afterwards, it can be distracting do not rush because someone is beeping.
Generally i have found its the bullies/racers/bad drivers that beep at learners, a good driver will have more patience and understanding
when they see L plates and usually hang back and give you space.

...(and they don't beep at you!)

gubbie

Regarding the beeping, some people are just mean.

I was told, when I was learning, that the correct thing to do in that situation is for you to enter the yellow box (as another poster mentioned) and wait until either the oncoming traffic was free or until the light changes. When the lights turn amber, the oncoming traffic should slow down and prepare to stop, allowing you to complete the turn (if someone speeds up and breaks the lights, then just wait and pass once they're finished)

arleitiss

gubbie wrote: »

Regarding the beeping, some people are just mean.

I was told, when I was learning, that the correct thing to do in that situation is for you to enter the yellow box (as another poster mentioned) and wait until either the oncoming traffic was free or until the light changes. When the lights turn amber, the oncoming traffic should slow down and prepare to stop, allowing you to complete the turn (if someone speeds up and breaks the lights, then just wait and pass once they're finished)

apparently I forgot to draw another car, it was coming from opposite and it was in middle of yellow box, I didn't quite have space to squeeze in without hitting either kerb or that car, and unfortunately with my luck I always end up when it changes to amber at least 6 more passing through then it's red for me while I am on yellow box, should I race through into turn or reverse?

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

i'd like to know about this one fact

you reversed back off the yellow box nearer to the taxi,

now me personally wouldve went forward as the other cars on the opposite side stopped as not to block the junction and not reverse into a car behind me.

i could be wrong though

Spook_ie

arleitiss wrote: »

apparently I forgot to draw another car, it was coming from opposite and it was in middle of yellow box, I didn't quite have space to squeeze in without hitting either kerb or that car, and unfortunately with my luck I always end up when it changes to amber at least 6 more passing through then it's red for me while I am on yellow box, should I race through into turn or reverse?

Now I'm just confused! If I was behind you and you confused me as much with your driving I'd be beeping

arleitiss

Spook_ie wrote: »

Now I'm just confused! If I was behind you and you confused me as much with your driving I'd be beeping

I was waiting for yellow box to clear off a bit as there was one car on it already and I couldn't squeeze in, also I couldn't see what's going on so for me obvious logical thing was to just wait until I can clearly see and drive through, then light turned amber I wanted to drive through but like 7 more guys rushed through from opposite direction so I backed off

number66

Well, The taxi was way out of line beeping you like that, that asshole should worry about driving his own car and not yours. The horn should only be used to avoid accidents, not to annoy drivers who you don't like.

As for the turn, you should have moved fully into the yellow box ( the front of you car should be at the center line ready to turn) and waited for an opportunity to turn right, if there is a lot of traffic you wait till the lights change and then turn right when safe. By being in the middle of the junction you basically block traffic on you left and they have to let you turn. So you can wait for any cars coming in the opposite direction to stop after the lights change and complete your turn.

Reversing out of a yellow box is not a good move and the taxi driver was right to beep you then to make sure you knew he was there. Basically you should not worry about getting stuck in the yellow box when turning right, when the lights change you have right of way over traffic coming from your left as you are already in the junction.

The golden rule is to drive safe and don't let others get you flustered. Some times you can get stuck in a bad spot, best to wait till it's safe before moving, rather than trying to make quick but dangerous maneuver. If it causes gridlock for a few minutes so be it.

captainbirdseye

Ignore beeping. That is all.

gubbie

arleitiss wrote: »

apparently I forgot to draw another car, it was coming from opposite and it was in middle of yellow box, I didn't quite have space to squeeze in without hitting either kerb or that car, and unfortunately with my luck I always end up when it changes to amber at least 6 more passing through then it's red for me while I am on yellow box, should I race through into turn or reverse?

I just had another think about it and remembered that there was a period of time when I needed the largest space before I was confident enough to enter, so I probably would have sat and not completed the turn until I knew it was empty either. As I said the taxi man was being a dick.

I wouldn't have reversed though. If you drive into the yellow box and wait, even if the lights have gone red and traffic starts coming from the left and the right, you're essentially going to be at the front of the traffic coming from the left. You're just not facing the right way.

I even drew a picture! It wasn't necessary really but I think you should have waited where the red car was until the lights went red. The taxi is the blue car. Sometimes you'll get people who drive up behind you into the yellow box (shouldn't have) and that's what blocks traffic

JokerD

First ever lesson, driving in an estate, making a right turn at a probably slower pace than normal but hardly crawling.

Get a beep and a dirty look from a woman that looked liked she was bringing the kids the school.

I would've loved nothing more than stop the car, get out and say "maybe if you got up 5 mins earlier you wouldn't need to take every corner like Michael Schumacher".

rab!dmonkey

arleitiss wrote: »

apparently I forgot to draw another car, it was coming from opposite and it was in middle of yellow box, I didn't quite have space to squeeze in without hitting either kerb or that car, and unfortunately with my luck I always end up when it changes to amber at least 6 more passing through then it's red for me while I am on yellow box, should I race through into turn or reverse?

Once you've gone past the white line at the junction/traffic lights, the traffic lights no longer control you. You should have made the turn - the next set of traffic with green lights would have to give way. As it says in the Rules of the Road: "a green light does not confer right of way, but licence to proceed with caution."

As regards to beeping, the horn should only be used to indicate your presence (when there is a reasonable need to do so) or warn others of danger. If you're confident that isn't the case, ignore the person using the horn. Don't confront the other person, concentrate on proceeding safely.

the_syco

arleitiss wrote: »

Hey, so I was at a junction one day, it was raining (random fact) and my lane was going straight well actually it didn't have arrows at all, but also didn't have a sign of no turn, I know it's allowed to turn there, it's type of turn which have to catch time to get, I mean doesn't have filter arrow, when it's green to us it's green to opposite lane as well. So I had indicators turned to right, there was taxi behind me, I was waiting for cars to pass and safely get through this asshole started beeping me constantly, I got so frustrated, stressed and pissed off I nearly opened window and showed him middle finger (but I holded off), really if I had some kind of baseball bat I couldn't resist it, just got so pissed off he beeped around 30 times. Indicators were working so he obviously saw I am turning, when I looked in mirror he pointed at green traffic light, yet there was cars standing to turn left on opposite lane and behind them I saw 2 cars coming with no intension to stop or turn so I waited then light switched red so I reversed a bit to get off yellow box, that guy started beeping me while at red traffic light, I know he's a taxi he would probably rush through red. When it turned green again I waited a bit as there was more cars driving opposite. So what was I supposed to cut through them or what?
Here is diagram of situation:

I'm thinking the taxi driver was so far up your hole that they couldn't see your indicator light flashing. F**k 'em.